Reply #11: Dover, like you, I read Vasquez's article and had some hope, because [View All]

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in a way her article makes sense if you figure Kerry isn't a complete loser or plant. His background would make it seem that he could be capable of "outfoxing" the fox/Rove. With 20 years in the Senate dealing with Iran Contra/BCCI and everything else that's gone on and serving as a special prosecuter, he would be very savy about how to deal with these people. Plus, given that Edwards had so much ambition and was a trial lawyer we seemed to have a team who really would fight back if there was any evidence of fraud in this election. The silence of the media except for sniping about "Internet Conspirators with Spreadsheets" and the lack of spokespersons from the Dem party coming out in support of counting the votes is strange, but given our experience with them, not surprising in a way.

Either they didn't want to win and therefore did everything wrong purposefully by hiring "hack loser" Campaign Managers or they decided that they would let everything be thrown at them, use the activists like us on the ground to get the vote out and then see how the election turned out. If it was a landslide they wouldn't question the machines, if it was close like 2000 they wouldn't challenge, but would let the activists go at it while secretly manuevering behind the scenes and keeping the media out of it. If they were serious then Vasquez's article makes sense. BUT, if they have not told us the truth and there really was no plan in place if the election had allegations of fraud then one is left to wonder what kind of dark comedy we Democrats are living in today. If we can't trust our own party to tell us the truth and we can't trust the Repugs for sure...then what the hell is going on?

I'm going to give it through the recount elections to make up my mind, but I would hope someone in our party was savy enough to figure out a way to beat the Bushes at their own game. It's not like they weren't warned and didn't have enough information to know that not only was 2000 stolen, but the Mid-Terms elections had odd results in Georgia and that our country is in peril from the mad Bushies. If they didn't see that coming and had no plan at all then the Big Lie will bring us all down. The activists will desert the Democratic Party leaving nothing behind but the bloviating Campaign Managers, Lobbyists and other Politial Hacks to run another candidate who can't articulate a message and lose again. If we have anything left. Why would they want to do that? They aren't stupid, are they? Or, are they so much part of the problem they can't even see what they are doing to the country is as bad as the Republicans method of operation, just in a different way. :shrug: