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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:05 AM
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16. Thanks for writing. A couple of things....
First, B*sh:

Just because Saturn brought B*sh to the heights in its dasa, does not mean that it will not also plunge him to its depths. He does have Saturn and Ketu (south node) in the tenth house of the vedic harmonic chart that rules his career, meaning that what goes up also can come down, especially if built on unsturdy ground. Nixon was brought down by a powerful Saturn in his 10th. Ketu kicks in as his sub-bhukti on 12/8, suggesting the beginning of the end. Even if he is inaugurated, it is not likely to last.

As for Saturn in the 11th house from the Moon, that could be that B*sh is stopped by his peers, his party, his "friends". That can also mean that the hopes and wishes of his Moon are not fulfilled, but met by hard cold reality (not of his own making) instead. Saturn in Cancer, after all, is a weak Saturn, and its position relative to the Moon only emphasizes this. Saturn is also casting its aspect to the Moon and Jupiter in Shrub's 3rd--his good press and ability to get away with lies. Saturn will not uphold this but corrode it. Saturn's retrograde motion as of 11/8 is a net being cast. It is almost in place. Saturn's going direct on March 20 will only convince Shrub that he is indeed bound by it and cannot escape.

Saturn as 11th from the Moon is also Karl Rove in Bush's chart--it was due to Rove that Bush began his rise. Rove and his tactics will also destroy him. I might add that the unpredictable Rahu is in the 11th from ascendant, made all the more so by its conjunction with Uranus and recent opposition from Pluto. Kerry's Sun also falls opposite this, again suggesting a polarity to the damage wreaked by Shrub and Co.

I would also point out that when Saturn enters tropical Leo this summer, it will be approaching 45 degrees from *'s Moon, entering the window of ruin of the infamous 7 years of Saturn. This Sadi-santi will be especially crushing because his Moon is with Chiron.

As for Kerry, his birthtime is in dispute. I spent a good part of a day working on rectifying it and am not yet satisfied--I would love to see what anyone else has come up with. I am tending toward the times around 8am, not the midnightish time that was also given.
And who is to say that Kerry is not a healer? Just because he does not directly work in that profession, he may be stepping up to that plate on a collective level. His progressed Chiron--the healer--is directly on the Midheaven--the presidency--of the United States. Saturn and Pluto tied thru Nakshatra rulerships is a karmic tie to the powers that be, but it may bind one to transform and serve, rather than to unconsciously act out the dark side. His Saturn in the Vedic 8th also gives him longevity and protection from the dark forces; again, it does suggest a contract, but that may be to expose and to transform the dark, rather than simply to be the victim of it. We are waking up, are we not? The fact that Kerry is in his Mercury Dasa and that Saturn opposes it means that this is the time that these transforming forces come into play. And it is not easy. Think of what he must be going through if he is the least bit conscious. The forces he is confronting show these dynamics.

Time will tell. Let's see what happens when the fog begins to lift on Dec.5 (end of Ketu (KoolAid) period that kicked in for US on November 3).
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