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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 04:30 AM
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Dear Ojai Person,

I agree with you in numerous points. I must point out that what we do here is not simple Parasari stuff – in many things we are closer to Jaimini and Krishnamurti.

Please note that the majority of traditional Indian astrologers forecast a Kerry victory, with the exception of the noted K. N. Rao. I can send you his complete article if you wish.

I took my Kerry data out of the Kepler database, Rao has a 7:59 a.m. birthtime in Aurora, CO, and I worked with 8:30 Denver. If Kerry's birthdate is off before a presidential election, I would say it is not by chance - it is karma. We have to work with the person as known to us.

I agree that Shrub has a weak Saturn, it is in dead avastha, and burned by the Sun, and therefore the last part of its dasa will be increasingly difficult for him. His Mars – 10th lord – is vargottama, and he became President in Mars bhukti - a ruler put in place for warmaking. I think his life is personally miserable, but he will not topple as early as you suggested (although the Jan-May Saturn in Gemini transit may indeed be bad for him, and Saturn stationary may really start things spinning out of control, in a sense.) I have already said in the original article quoted by Cherie that B*sh would probably not complete his second term. I would look at Jupiter, Ketu and Saturn transits for timing his downfall, though.

The 11-th connection is really why he will be eventually sacrificed by the group he represents. I do not have Ketu in the Tenth of his dasamsa, though (mean or true node?). And I would not think he will have real problems until transiting Ketu is left behind alone in Virgo by transiting Jupiter (next Sept). That means the law will protect him - think about the Patriot Acts and Homeland Security! That is how he became President, too.

I think what is really bad for this man is the time when Ketu and Saturn will be scissoring his Mars from the fall of 2006 on. His Ketu is in a desructive, rakshasic Mercury-ruled nakshatra - with Merc. period running. I agree his „communication problems” will shortly start (this includes accusations, media, etc.) but I think he will not leave presidency until after Mercury period starts (2006 May).

In my understanding Nixon was also finished due to Mercury.

I would not mix tropical transits into this – I personally use them only for agricultural issues, as they are based upon a solar logic, and never for a Sade Sati. But see what the coming months bring... Astrology is a science with many different branches, and ancient techniques are being rediscovered.

I find it significant that George’s natal Ketu falls between John’s Lagna and Sun. They are, I agree, each other’s nemesis; this is worse for Kerry, though. Shrub simply annihilates a chance for him to assume power and become famous. He could still be a President later, but by that time Shrub will have largely wrecked the country. B*sh is amassing a great deal of debts, for one thing. He will bring in foreign interests (further commercial unions for example, and further foreign military engagements - 12th house). That will be very hard to undo even during four Democratic years following.

It’s my personal view that the neoliberal-monetaristic economic approach ruling since Reagan is simply inadequate to solve the problems of the American people amassed since 1980 (and especially lately). A much more radical, people-oriented approach would be required. Now four years would not be enough to pay all those war debts (unless they are declared illegal by a new government, and then we would have even larger problems with banks and multinationals demanding payment against the American people).

Plutonian powers – weapons, drugs, radioactivitry etc. – will not leave us so peacefully. Pluto is tied with the eighth house, Shiva - destruction is warranted for the transformation you speak of. I do not think Pluto is a benevolent planet at all, rather, it is like the Jungian Shadow. It is about our darkest aspects, about power, control and its misuse. Think about where you were 248 years ago... It may be the very reason you came back to Earth. In the case of a shaman-healer it could force him or her (esp. if it is with Uranus) to be a healer – instead of a tyrant or a sadist.

Kerry’s Pluto in the 9th in a Saturn Nakshatra, retrograde, along with Rahu. And Saturn is in his eighth! The best I can bring out of this is a new faith, a new philosophy, but he could have misused religious power in another incarnation pretty badly. And when I looked at transits, I concluded that while Saturn is in Cancer, Kerry, if elected at all, would have to do much the same thing as far as essential issues. He would have had little choice these years. Think about homeopathy: when you have a cancer or a poison in your system, you take a poison potentiated homeopathically, but you still have to suffer fever, chills, sweating, diarrhea etc. as it finally comes out. If you feel all right after taking the medicine, that is dangerous – then the stuff remains suppressed and the medicine may not be the right one. Chiron is a healer for everyone, but for profession I would look at Amatya-karaka (Moon for Kerry), tenth or sixth lord (Sun). My understanding is that no one born between 1932 and 52 - except active doctors and naturopaths - could have used that Plutonian power differently during this term – otherwise you would see the deep, compulsive nature of Pluto with oil, mining and weapons trade. (Not to mention Haarp). Kerry' sixth lord Mars is facing the Sun (10th) - this is not good for someone who wants government leadership and a real calling to serve the people. The two would be opposed.

I have to agree with Cherie, who was so kind as to post my writing that Howard Dean would have satisfied these criteria better. With Saturn moving through Cancer now, though, it is possible that we would have faced another Kennedy case, had a real healer, a reformer of these corrupted state of affairs been elected in 2004. There is a negative power afoot, the way I see it, America has been coopted. I lived there while this was going on. This process must unfold to its end. However, B*sh may bring that power itself down before he wrecks the entire country! But our (I am a citizen) world ruler status is probably over within the decade (all for the better). Now that needs real awakening…

K. N. Rao writes: „In this context it is worthwhile remembering that in the horoscope of USA with Simha lagna , the dasha of Moon in the seventh house will run for another seven years and will show its greater entanglements in wars. Bush has started it and is likely to carry it further…” (from article dated 2004. Sept. 10)

Yours,

Kartikeya


Cher
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