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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:38 AM
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150. vickitulsa
vickitulsa

Maybe "basic knowledge" and some sane mind is important when it come tho what is what?.. Home was a home of common knowledge, and it maybe coming down to me to;) And is it something the world need today, it is common knowledge, and some sane minds...

When you had seen foreign troops invading your country, and see the same troopers marsh down the road, you get something in you that you never want to experience one More time.. And Tsjekkoslovakia in the 1970s was not a free place on earth.. Rather the opposite.. But 10 year later, it was free at least, and are today one of the more stable democracy in EUrope.. Even that Tsjekkia and Slovakia parted away. At Peace with its other, and even that it was a "divorce" it was a amazing peacefully divorce where they just get along, as long they was parted... The 1990s was a place of great turmoil in Europe, but it was also a place of hope, and prospect of a better future somehow... I still remember well when the Berlin wall was falling, I was in 6-7 grade when it happened.. And I still get shivers down my spine when I see it on TV...

Once in Time US was been seen as the great opportunity for people who want a Chance to "do it". And even i was thinning about emigrate to US once.. But at some point I just was to scared to emigrate.. I may find the "air" for emigration to be bad, or I was just lucky;). I don't know, but after Clinton, and the early start of GWB I was glad I was not emigration to US...
For many in the east european nation US was a place of hope. And many I know from the east was bound for emigrating to US, and to live the "american dream" and many strike it to, when come to US...

But as Petr experienced US can be a very different place to be, when you come from the outside.. I am still puzzled by on the one hand your openness, and the "get go" attitude. On the other hand the more scary part is that many have this arrogance who are doing more damage than anything more.. And your cort system is just behind my puzzling if I may say it... Tree strikes, and you are in for life... Even when it was a very Small crime.. I can understand that it when it come to the higher crimes, with violence and death, but for pic poking, or smaller offenses I do have some problem with life prison.. This is a system who just make thing injust..

Petr have it absolutely right, when it come to the truth, when it come to that all children er born to be good.. That is a truth that werry often are falling for deaf ear when it come to the grown up... Child abuse are something I cant understand either.. And I know more about this than I want to tell... I to have some scar about this a I guess I was lucy one who was getting help, and was placed with my little brother in a foster home, where my foster parents was kind to us.. After all they have 5 kids on their own, and with us it was 7... And everyone of us have grown up to honest people who are not criminal and not to bad.. So I guess they have been doing some good then;)..

It is just amazing to se how low the US have been in esteem after 8 year with Bush. It is just criminal to se that he may get free, because nobody dear to tell the Emperor that he had no cloth at all.. Mr Bush are very dangerous, as many here have pointed out before, because he have a "ferniss" of "nice man" over him.. Mr Chenney is a more direct, more dangerous man, because his thoughs is just so clear to everyone who want to read him.. Mr Bush just looks like a clown, and act as one too I guess...
The other day, when he was standing by the prime minister of Israel, i just seeing him and wonder, WHY in the world, have this man, who are this "stupid small on his face possible be the president of USA"... It just stuck my as surprising that this man can be president of everything, and then even of USA... How the great one have fallen from the hight.. Amazing, just amazing... And you I Will bet that many others, who are not friends of US nave noticed that too...

Americans have to fight to get their country back from this type of regime. It Will ba a hard fight, because this type of regime are never easy tron over.. But I do hope, and pray for that the american have the "spirit of 1776" yet in their soul, somewhere and are not totally corrupted by the gossip about the latest from the camp of the Speers or other gossip that are just pollution the atmosphere.. I do hope that the US I once know, can wake up, and start to rebuild what is destroyed, and not just physical, but also on other fronts.. We need a peacefully, powerfully friend, and US can be that friend.. But US have to act as the friend she once was...
I know that many american are afraid, and don't want this regime to exist for many year to tome.. And I know that many are not approving what is happening and Will do what it takes to stop it, end it once and for all;). But as in Germany in the 1930s, you are almost helpless.. Because the Nazis was the LAW, and the same is the case with mr Bush.. He is the LAW, as long as it last.. And I am afraid it Will be a painfully, hard time to americans to wake up from the innocence they was growing into for the last 232 year..
In some prospect I must thing about US as a Innocent little children,who are never learned that the world is a bad blace, with many bad pepole..And have to be told that not everyone are nice and good...

Me to, have studied my history, I believe it are because of my foster fathers interest in the subject too.. And WW2 have in some way always interested my, even that I know that MUTCH about the war, I really don't know a lot of.. But it is a fact that in WW2, your P0W specially the germans was treated fairy well.. Much better than they may deserved, because Germany was not treating their POWs so well.. Specially in the east, where more than 3 million russian soldiers was dead between 1941-45. Not surprising then, that for the most part the germans was fleeing for their life, to be taken prisoner of war with the west-allied forces, the future was far better there, than in the east, where you can find yourself taken to Siberia or something like that.. When Stalingrad was fallen, almost 900.000 german and their allied forces was been POWs.. In 1955, just 5000 germans was coming back to East Germany.. The rest was dead, or was still prisoner in Soviet...

Today, with Abeu Girab, The prison in Cuba and other places I really doubt that anyone would like to be taken into prison by the american.. Many believe it is better to die, than to be taken prisoner, specially when you can be send to places where you are tortured, and maybe even murdered. Not few Afghans, and Iraqis have been killed by their captures, and their relatives is told not to open what they are coming in.. The truth about violence in american prisoner camps are there, they are just not been told yet. Or a least not to civilians.. Even the SS inside their own, was telling histories about their treatment of prisoner, it is just human to tel to other..

You are welcome to share it. It may be, that american is to know, that we on the outside are not HATING USA, but we miss what US once was standing for.. We miss the OLD USA, where the LAW was followed, and where criminal President was trown out.. Or maybe even in prison.. Mr Nixon was out of office just in nick of time.. If he had not re signet, he would have ended in prison... And then the media have the "GUTS" to tell the truth - not anymore.. You have to go to foreign newspaper to get the truth, inside US...

Just share it with friends on DU, or otherwise;)..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad English, not my native language



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