Reply #6: heh [View All]

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"They have known for over one hundred years that dioxins and benzenes were carcinogens"

No, they first synthesized dioxins over a hundred years ago. Their toxicity was not understood/ appreciated until the seventies, eighties and nineties.

Benzene is a specific compound, not a class of compounds, it's not plural. For the better part of the 20th century it was thought to be safe, then it was considered a suspect carcinogen for some time and phased out for most of its older purposes, and only in the last few years has it been considered a true carcinogen.

"Same for poly-vinyl chlorides"

PVC is not a carcinogen. There have been some reports of some toxicity from some phthalates used as PBC plasticizer, but not carcinogenicity.

"PCBs"

PCBs are quite toxic compounds, not just for their carcinogenicity, and were banned before much "carcinogenicity fo these compounds were known.

"heavy metals"

"solvents"

That's going to depend on which solvent you're talking about. I hear DHMO can be quite toxic.

The carcinogenicity of heavy metals is not well understood, but they've been known to be toxic since, well, the invention of metallurgy.

"They withheld the Pap Smear for decades; they bickered while women died unnecessarily of cervical cancer."

Papanicolau invented it in, what, the thirties? Sure, compared to know that was still the dark ages of gynecology, I've never heard of some sort of conspiracy to withhold it while more women got cervical cancer. At least not like some people are doing now trying to repress the HPV vaccine.

"Government agencies have conspired with chemical, paint, and agricultural companies to suppress knowledge about some of the most egregious and obvious carcinogens"

Link?

"These include not only the chemicals named above but pesticides, fungicides, plasticizers, and now even genetically modified agriculture and some cloned mammals and their edible proteins."

If a chemical causes cancer, they'll either take it off the market, or restrict its use so that it doesn't harm people. GMO organisms have never been shown to cause cancer. Neither have cloned mammals.

"1. We know about 95% of what causes cancer.""

Most cancer is caused by genetics. Relatively few cases are caused by environmental exposure to carcinogens. Of those that are, the large majority are caused by cigarette smoke and radon.

"2. The corporations that produce carcinogenic products have influenced the rate at which we find out the dangers of the products we use. They don't want most consumers to be educated about the risk factors for cancer, because it would impact the bottom line of so many major industries."

They also don't want to give their patients cancer, because if they did they'd 1. lose customers, and 2. they'd get their asses sued. So that's why they test things before they release them, and withdraw them if they do show signs of carcinogenicity later.

"3. Until our health-related agencies only permit on their panels and boards scientists who are not morally compromised or on the payroll of gigantic offenders like Monstanto, DuPont, Dow, and so forth, we can not rely on them to determine what is a safe chemical."

In fact, health-related agencies like the FDA do go through efforts to remove bias.