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Grissom, Chaffee and White


In January 1967, Virgil 'Gus' Grissom, an American astronaut, held an unauthorized press conference in which he told reporters that the United States was "at least a decade away" from even contemplating a lunar mission. He was severely rebuked for giving that interview without permission.

Clearly Mr. Grissom did not fit NASA's requirement of an easily-controlled, brain-dead military man.


Following this reprimand, Gus Grissom later came out of a water tank reduced gravity simulation of the supposed lunar landing module,

and hung a lemon

attached to a coat-hanger in front of a NASA emblem to indicate to any cameras present, without speaking, what he and his fellow crew members, Roger Chaffee and Edward White, thought of the Apollo programme.

http://www.realityreviewed.com/Grissom.htm


Here's also some help on the splashdown capsule accident where Grissom almost drowned . . .

Following splashdown from that flight, Grissom almost drowned when his space capsule filled with water and sank into the Atlantic before it could be recovered.

After the flight, NASA awarded Grissom with its Distinguished Service Medal and he received his astronaut’s wings on Dec. 7, 1961. On July 15, 1962, he was promoted to the rank of major. He received the first General Thomas D. White Trophy on July 19, 1962, for being "The Air Force member who has made the most outstanding contribution to the nation’s progress in aerospace".

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/people/g/grissom_gus/grissom.html

As I recall the cause of this accident, the hatch lock opened prematurely -- filling the capsule

with water.


Reflect on how wrong you are here . . . and where you got the info --

Then there's the mysterious fire that killed Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee in 1967. Was it due to Grissom's being a thorn in the side of NASA? Well, if so, there was a much neater and less messy solution to the problem. Ground him. There was more than enough reason - Grissom lost his capsule on his first flight! When Scott Carpenter overshot his landing site by 300 miles on the second Mercury orbital flight, he vanished from the space program (he's still alive and well, by the way). Somehow Grissom redeemed himself well enough to get a second chance aboard a Gemini mission, and he was set to become America's first three-time space traveler when he was killed. This is a very strange way to treat a threat.

In fact, Grissom Grissom helped design and construct the spacecraft of Project Gemini, a series of missions designed as an intermediate step between Project Mercury and the Apollo Moon project. On April 13, 1964, he was selected to be the first Gemini pilot and on March 23, 1965, the first two-man space flight was launched with Grissom and John W. Young co-piloting Gemini III.

During the mission he achieved another first by maneuvering the craft manually from one orbit to another. Both astronauts were awarded NASA's Exceptional Service medals.


It's also naive to think that they weren't trying to kill all three -- we don't really know.

Or that they weren't just as happy to see the "perfectly good Apollo capsule" gone --

First -- and you can look to Vietnam and perpetual war for this . . . MIC is always happy to

replace equipment -- make junk and replace it -- shoot it down and replace it.

Okay, let's say for some reason Gus had to be terminated. The astronauts were constantly involved in dangerous survival training, not to mention getting their flying hours in. There were any number of low-key ways to do him in without killing two other astronauts and destroying a perfectly good Apollo capsule. An ejection seat malfunction during a routine training flight would have done it nicely. Destroying the Apollo capsule in 1967(!) put the goal of reaching the moon by 1970 in grave jeopardy. If anyone involved in the re-engineering failed to make schedule, the deadline would be missed. If NASA tried to rush things by approving a patently unready capsule, it would have raised an impossible number of red flags. So the conspiracy had to trust that thousands of independent agencies and contractors would get it all together in time, because all of these people still had to be kept ignorant of the conspiracy. A conspiracy that trusts - now there's a novel concept.

Grissom was saying . . . "United States was "at least a decade away" from even contemplating a lunar mission." This accident might have also provided an alibi for delays.


And, this . . .

Interestingly enough, all of the Apollo astronauts themselves stayed hale and hearty for many years after their flights. Not a single one, apparently, was tempted to get rich and famous by blowing the whistle, and none even strayed enough from the party line to be a threat to NASA.

is kind of an argument against their having ever been in far outer space.

Remember, the MIR is only in "low earth orbit."

Even at that, many men have come off it being unable to walk and existing into a wheelchair.

In fact, Shannon Lucide for a while held the record for time on the MIR but she existed walking.

We've always know that females can physically withstand the rigors of space better than males.

Meanwhile, also keep in mind that studies seem to suggest that our career commercial airline pilots

seem to be suffering effects of radiation on their brains and they are only exposed at the level

of airplane elevation!


Took a fast look at your link --

The opportunity for filming the sky/stars would have been wondrous and the explanation

is lame. First, no film would have survived the flight. It is acknowledged that there

were no special precautions for the cameras or the film.

Also notice from your link some suggestion that critics have said that the fake was made

OUTSIDE Area 51? Not to my knowledge. Most of it looks like it was done indoors.



As for the Russians, the first response would have been "sour grapes."

Who would have listened? Others also point to vast shipments of crops which were sent

to Russia after that.

Same with James A. Van Allen whose work on the Van Allen Radiation Belts suggest that no

human could survive in outer space. After being told that they had, what could he possibly

say?

Here's a very brief YouTube link which includes comments by Gus Grissom's son --

the family blames sabotage for the accident. "Intentional" --

Gus Grissom's wife also appears in this video.

You can also see/hear Gus Grissom just a few moments before the accident commenting on

the communications system having failed. Grissom is commenting that if they can't communicate

between the two buildings, how do they communicate from space? The capsule then bursts into flames.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBJFPuiwE