Reply #203: let's work backwards [View All]

[qazplm]

and try this from a different angle but first I will answer your question.

No "feels extreme pressure" doesn't work. Feels anything doesnt work. What works is an objective analysis of the actions of the accused and a determination of if they are objectively coercive. Take a woman who has been raped in the past. She is quite understandably traumatized in the area of sexual relations. The man does something that is objectively non-coercive but because of her past she "feels extreme pressure." Focusing on her subjective feelings, if she says yes, he's raped her. Focusing objectively, he's done nothing wrong and has not raped her.

Which leads me to working backwards. Let's try this, which of the following things, should a man be prosecuted for because the woman was coerced into having sex (assuming she says yes in all hypos):

Please baby it has been six months and we haven't had sex and i really want to.
Have sex with me or you are walking home 15 miles through the desert.
Have sex with me or I will hurt you.
If you loved me, you'd have sex with me.
Are you sure you don't want to have sex?

Since I'm going to assume, some of those you'd say yes, and some of those you'd say no, perhaps that describes what is and is not coercive in the sense of rape and not rape.