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Turley (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 06:02 AM Original message |
Roadblock death: Italy didn't alert U.S. troops |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. this makes me want to vomit.... |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 06:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I'm Watching The Funeral Live |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 06:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I certainly hope so... |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. I suppose the silver lining to this story |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. leftchick, we need vomatoriums in the United States, like in old Rome |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Sgrena should be "cautious" in her accounts? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. "Histrionic Personality disorder" |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. A response to one of MY posts was deleted? This is a first--and an honor! |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. Congratulations, you get the "Freedom Medal". |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
107. Deleted message |
Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:37 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. Hmmmm, that just sounds so eerily familiar |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:14 AM Response to Reply #116 |
149. It is a rightwing talking point, and the meme is: US troops don't shoot... |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #149 |
160. Did he really? What a fucking pussy |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:43 AM Response to Reply #160 |
161. Scarborough will replay at 3:00 AM ET |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:19 AM Response to Reply #161 |
175. It is incredibly disturbing, and I am having a hard time not responding |
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b... (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 10:49 AM Response to Reply #175 |
203. because you're a traiterous pinko hippie! |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:51 PM Response to Reply #203 |
205. Oh, that's it--I knew there had to be a reason! |
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ninkasi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:24 AM Response to Reply #116 |
178. It's eerily similar |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:35 AM Response to Reply #178 |
179. So glad it wasn't just me who noticed that very thing n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #107 |
118. There is no problem with Ms Sgrena. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. Deleted message |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Bullshit. |
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Chomskyite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:58 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. Spell out the specifics for us |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:16 AM Response to Reply #128 |
150. Deleted message |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:26 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. This sentence: |
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Chomskyite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:33 AM Response to Reply #150 |
156. Sorry, I don't see the contradictions |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:59 PM Response to Reply #123 |
130. Why so much hostility against the victim? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:31 AM Response to Reply #130 |
154. Deleted message |
Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:37 AM Response to Reply #154 |
157. They didn't give her medical attention for as long as 20 minutes |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:01 AM Response to Reply #157 |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #167 |
173. The airport was less than half a mile away |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:39 AM Response to Reply #154 |
159. Soldiers just follow orders. |
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cubschicago (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:05 PM Response to Reply #123 |
131. I am a translator |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:52 PM Response to Reply #131 |
142. Thank you cubschicago and welcome to DU! |
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illuminaughty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 03:42 AM Response to Reply #131 |
188. grazie e benvenuto a DU |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 04:42 AM Response to Reply #131 |
191. Welcome to DU, Cubschicago!!! |
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Undercover Owl (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:09 AM Response to Reply #123 |
147. dragonlady56: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:11 AM Response to Reply #123 |
148. Deleted message |
rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #107 |
121. If she's lying, let's see the car. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:51 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. Indeed, let's see the car. Did it evaporate? nt |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:37 PM Response to Reply #121 |
136. In Case Your Wondering |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #107 |
196. the scummy underside of the amurican war machine to be exposed |
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Julius Civitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. Berlusconi himself was on top of this one |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #55 |
83. The only way the United States can win this one will be to attack |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #83 |
98. Women are much more easily attacked on the issue of credibility |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:52 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Exactly. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:11 PM Response to Reply #98 |
105. ....and they've only been voting since 1922 I think. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
112. Well, one version says they already passed through |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 04:23 AM Response to Reply #112 |
190. The Italians routinely pay ransom, and they make no bones |
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crowsong (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 08:28 AM Response to Reply #112 |
198. don't they communicate? |
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hector459 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
78. If the US would get the hell out of Iraq, these things could never happen. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
2. so I guess if you're not an Iraqi citizen |
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pnutchuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
5. Wasn't there an exec from CNN who just resigned for making the |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
45. EASON JORDAN |
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mountainvue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
145. He's hanging out with Sharon Stone. n/t |
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Jon8503 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
6. Little Different Take From The Guardian On This Subject |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. The driver of the vehicle, |
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gasperc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
39. the passenger in the backseat got shot in head |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
126. Deleted message |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:59 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. What checkpoint? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:11 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. Deleted message |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:14 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. The one she was shot from? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:30 PM Response to Reply #133 |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:43 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. The car WASN'T SPEEDING |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. Better. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:56 PM Response to Reply #140 |
143. Deleted message |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:58 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. You don't have to waste your time here Sir, it's fine with me. nt |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 02:57 AM Response to Reply #135 |
187. She's been reporting US war crimes in Falluja for a while now. Simple.n/t |
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illuminaughty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 03:52 AM Response to Reply #135 |
189. If Ms. Sgrena lives long enough to tell what she knows |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:19 AM Response to Reply #126 |
151. German troops did not mean to kill those Jews at Babi Yar |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
46. YES! The waters are intentionally being muddied also@NYT |
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Cicero (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
53. Giuliana Sgrena says otherwise??? |
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tlcandie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 05:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
86. That was BEFORE they got to the airport and checkpoints... |
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glaeken777 (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #53 |
122. still unclear |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:56 PM Response to Reply #122 |
127. Beautiful exposition of the talking points there. |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:45 PM Response to Reply #127 |
138. It's really quite amazing to see |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:51 PM Response to Reply #138 |
141. We do seem to be geting a lot of attention tonight |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:59 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. I really started noticing it yesterday |
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glaeken777 (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 10:30 AM Response to Reply #138 |
201. please |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #201 |
206. Actually, I was referring to 2 trolls in this thread |
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glaeken777 (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 10:36 AM Response to Reply #127 |
202. thanks, i guess. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #202 |
207. Patience is granted. |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:29 PM Response to Reply #122 |
134. In Case Your Wondering |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
7. bullshit. |
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DrZeeLit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. I second that motion. My first thought: Bullshit! |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 06:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
92. "anonymous US military figure" |
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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
8. Infuriating-Road Blocks BLOCK THE ROAD, don't they? |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. democracy and liberty |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Good point - the DRIVER should have been FULL of bullets |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
47. KICK! |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
113. 300-400 bullets, with the rumor that she said she scooped up |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. You are damned right this is fishy. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Ah, yes, the secret unlighted roadblock off to the side of the road. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
100. This is why the car has "disappeared," according the US military |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:30 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. It was not shot from the front. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #101 |
114. I heard that the bullet in Sgrena had passed through |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. That would not be surprising. nt |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:13 AM Response to Reply #101 |
170. Chain of possession though |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #170 |
174. Yeah, but it's hard to undo bullet holes. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 02:05 AM Response to Reply #174 |
183. And don't forget Kenny boy. n/t |
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NightOwwl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 02:20 AM Response to Reply #174 |
185. This is spooky... |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. The cell phone going dead could be electronic counter measures |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 02:06 AM Response to Reply #43 |
184. They fired shots before disabling the cell phones. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #184 |
204. That's right. |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
58. You bring up excellent points. |
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leQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
59. i second that, good point! |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
12. That's blatant bs...just a lie to cover someone's butt. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
15. Let's just keep blaming the victim |
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clem_c_rock (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
16. F***ing lying sacks of sh** |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
18. lies and liars that tell those lies. We know that would mean certain |
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Turley (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Well that certainly begs the question |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. They thought they had and when it was obvious as the car stopped |
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Turley (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. If you don't mind me playing Devil's Advocate here |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. No problem devil's advocate...wrong because then they would have a |
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Turley (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Don't understand |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
60. The grunts are. They are just following the orders of others and cannot |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. The Italians were on the cell phone at the time... |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. because they saw all those open lines on the cellphones |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. my answer similar...we are thinking along same lines, but cell phones |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
48. YES. the cell phones went dead. WHY? on another DU'er thread |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
181. Wonder if those cellphones were the video type? THAT would explain |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:45 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. They certainly tried. What was it 400 bullets? But I suspect there... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:48 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Yeah, the grunts would not be told the "mission". |
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Turley (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I am skeptical of both sides |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. If this were the first such incident, I might be more inclined... |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
49. 48 journalists and assoc people e.g., cameramen dead/ assassinated |
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MadisonProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Good question - the military had it - now they say they don't know |
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jmcgowanjm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Why did LBJ have JFK's limousine remade? |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
82. My guess is that the US military knows where the vehicle is |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 04:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
192. Good questions |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 06:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
94. That has been my thought on how this occured, |
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clem_c_rock (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
33. Let's start looking at the real reasons instead of the official story |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. INCRED site:Americans wanted her dead& Italian gov.... |
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dArKeR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
35. How can you believe anything from this lying Regime? Look at this.. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
36. Belongs in GD... |
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Turley (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Not to split hairs |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
38. Why was there a plane waiting for them at the airport, then? |
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Turley (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Excellent question. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
93. ABC News is reporting tonight that it was a "tactical checkpoint" |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:02 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. A secret, unlighted, off-the-road checkpoint, sort of like an ambush. nt |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. It sure sounds like an ambush! |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #93 |
111. Making It Up As They Go Along |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:15 AM Response to Reply #93 |
172. A "tactical checkpoint" sounds like doubletalk for patrol. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. News reports previously quoted Italians involved: US at airport |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
106. They Did Coordinate The Attack |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
117. But if Calipari was in the back seat talking with Sgrena, |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:31 AM Response to Reply #117 |
153. The driver, also an Italian intel agent, reportedly said that the car |
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tlcandie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
90. With an American military higher up ..colonel, leiutenant or some |
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DELUSIONAL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
41. So this is the new spin??? |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. take down Berscolini!:call WH & ask for soldiers names:2024561414... |
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sr_pacifica (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. Yes! |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. I think it was 700 meters. |
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DELUSIONAL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 04:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
84. Thanks for the clarification -- |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 05:02 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Yes, a very short distance (from the BBC site). |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:54 AM Response to Reply #56 |
164. That would also, perhaps, explain why they didn't finish the job. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:11 AM Response to Reply #164 |
169. Someone else mentioned the witnesses a couple days ago. |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:46 AM Response to Reply #169 |
180. I would suspect that the close proximity to the airport & their fellow ... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 08:55 AM Response to Reply #180 |
200. Thanks. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:22 AM Response to Reply #164 |
177. That is a very good point. |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 02:25 AM Response to Reply #56 |
186. It's 8 2/3 city blocks in NYC. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
52. Anonymous sources aren't worth the ink they signed their names with. n/t |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
54. It's been relatively easy for "officials" to claim |
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plasticsundance (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
57. On another Forum |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. Deleted message |
chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. here is some more writing (good English) by Sgrena... |
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sr_pacifica (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
61. Yes, and.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Deleted message |
Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Who the hell is "Bo Dietl"? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Deleted message |
Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Yes, I have a TV--but I don't watch Fox news. |
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Julius Civitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 05:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
88. Since you asked |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Yeah, I saw him on Imus once (not my regular viewing) and Imus |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:47 PM Response to Reply #88 |
120. I saw him on the Daily Show--it was hilarious |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 04:57 AM Response to Reply #70 |
193. A retarded idiot whose best days are so far behind him |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
64. If US military at airport knew, why didn't they coordinate with the US |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
65. Deleted message |
Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Oh--you believe the US story! |
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Spinoza (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
66. Hopefully, |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
76. I wonder if the soldiers were set up |
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Julius Civitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
89. That is called "Plausible Deniability" |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
77. Bush is taking the Italians for a ride. Italy either faces that fact |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #77 |
110. Italy Was In On This |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 09:37 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. I've been wondering about that. |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
80. So, I guess the plane that was to carry them home just snuck in? |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #80 |
109. American Public = Stupid Sheep n/t |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
81. Ooh she's a commie and she disagreed with bush*. She deserved to die? |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
96. Why didn't the last checkpoint before the airport |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:31 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. You would think there was only one check-point in all of Baghdad |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Good questions. |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:34 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. They Did Tell Them |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
97. A Current U.S. Government Statement = Credibility Gap. |
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Undercover Owl (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
139. have you seen this crappy blog? |
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NightOwwl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
155. Where is the car? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:48 AM Response to Reply #155 |
162. Guardian: car flown back to Italy for a forensic examination. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:51 AM Response to Reply #162 |
163. Cool, we have movement, the car is found, thanks. nt |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:55 AM Response to Reply #163 |
165. Looks like the Italians don't trust the US forensics |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:01 AM Response to Reply #165 |
166. That's what I'm wondering, will he try to put his thumb on the scale? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:05 AM Response to Reply #166 |
168. Car is going to Italy, not the UK, bemildred |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:13 AM Response to Reply #168 |
171. Ah, crap, I see Guardian, I think UK. |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:21 AM Response to Reply #168 |
176. But I don't trust Berlusconi, either |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 05:23 AM Response to Reply #155 |
194. They make the rules. #1 is CYA. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
158. 3rd Infantry Division shot carloads of Iraqi women & children at checkpoin |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 02:02 AM Response to Reply #158 |
182. There is no accounting for all the people who might have been |
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ze_dscherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
195. Steve Bell's comment |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 08:16 AM Response to Reply #195 |
197. Grimmer & less amusing than Bell's usual.... |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 08:30 AM Response to Reply #195 |
199. On the money n/t |
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