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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 09:45 AM
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War crime claims
http://news10now.com/content/all_news/central_new_york/?ArID=38544&SecID=86

When the U.S. went to war in Iraq, Jimmy Massey was a staff sergeant with a marine unit that had the job of setting up checkpoints to protect american forces. In a short period of time, Massey claims, he and his men had killed 30 Iraqi civilians. He says he and the others are guilty of war crimes.

“I brought these series of events up through the chain of command. Each time I was told they were terrorists, or they were insurgents. My question to the marine corps at that point became, how was a 6 year old child with a bullet hole in its head a terrorist or insurgent,” says former U.S. Marine, Jimmy Massey.

“This is 18, 19, 20 year old kids. They have to make a split decision. The decision was to open fire. They opened fire. So, somebody got killed. Bad thing. That's not genocide, I'm sorry,” said retired U.S. Marine, William Gleason.


“I guess they're the few who run around with the little yellow sticker on their car that says support our troops. I have a new motto. My motto is save our troops, save them from themselves,” Massey said.

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 09:49 AM
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1. So according to U.S. Marine William Gleason there's no war crime
if it's not a 'genocide'.

OK kids, everone back to school.
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 10:07 AM
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3. And it's not genocide as long as they're not white and Christian.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 09:49 AM
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2. What would happen if he turned himself in to the ICC?
Would they accept the case? Coud they do anything without American witnesses?

And what's going to happen if the new Iraqi government signs up to the ICC? How much pressure would the USA put on it to stop that?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 10:14 AM
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5. interesting question
As an American I believe he would be outside ICC jurisdiction. If the "new" Iraqi government signed on, however, the victims and the venue would be that of an ICC member.

The guiding principle here is: enforcement is .9 of the law.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 10:12 AM
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4. "So, somebody got killed. Bad thing. That's not genocide"
Edited on Fri Mar-11-05 10:13 AM by ixion
not in and of itself, although it could be a part of a larger whole. In ANY case, it's murder. And it IS a war crime to kill innocent civlillians, even if it doesn't happen to be in the name of genocide.



By this reptiles reasoning, a serial killer or mass murderer is just doing a 'bad thing'.

State-sanctioned murder is still murder nonetheless, IMO.

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