Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

US Admits Killing Arab Journalist in Iraq

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:10 PM
Original message
US Admits Killing Arab Journalist in Iraq
US admits killing Arab journalists in Iraq

By Aljazeera 

03/29/05 - - The US military has acknowledged it was responsible for killing two journalists working for Dubai-based satellite channel al-Arabiya who were shot close to a checkpoint in the Iraqi capital earlier this month. 

Al-Arabiya cameraman Ali Abd al-Aziz died on 18 March from a gunshot wound to the head. Correspondent Ali al-Khatib died from his wounds in hospital the next day. Both were Iraqis. 

Colleagues said US troops fired on their car near a checkpoint in central Baghdad. The US military initially said it was unlikely its bullets had killed them. On Monday, a US military official said an investigation into the deaths showed troops were responsible, but had acted "within the rules of engagement". 

US soldiers were aiming at a different car, a white Volvo that had driven through the checkpoint at high speed, the investigation said. Al-Arabiya's grey Kia car was 50m to 150m down the road, trying to turn when it was accidentally hit, the military said. 

"The investigation concluded that no soldiers fired intentionally at the Kia," the US military said in a statement. 

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8396.htm

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:15 PM
Response to Original message
1. PENTAGON THREATENS TO KILL INDEPENDENT REPORTERS IN IRAQ
http://www.gulufuture.com/news/kate_adie030310.htm

The Pentagon has threatened to fire on the satellite uplink positions of independent journalists in Iraq, according to veteran BBC war correspondent, Kate Adie. In an interview with Irish radio, Ms. Adie said that questioned about the consequences of such potentially fatal actions, a senior Pentagon officer had said: "Who cares.. ..They've been warned."

According to Ms. Adie, who twelve years ago covered the last Gulf War, the Pentagon attitude is: "entirely hostile to the the free spread of information."

"I am enormously pessimistic of the chance of decent on-the-spot reporting, as the war occurs," she told Irish national broadcaster, Tom McGurk on the RTE1 Radio "Sunday Show."

...more...

the rules of engagement :(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. thanks for the reminder UIA!
The filthy pentagon liars are intentionally targeting any and all journalists who are not "embedded" and telling the US's distorted tale of Iraq history in the making. Jane Arraf comes to mind...
:puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #6
13. I always think of Mazen Dana
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A8400-2003Aug18?language=printer

Monday, August 18, 2003; 2:10 PM

BAGHDAD, Aug. 18 -- A U.S. military spokesman today called the shooting death of an award-winning Reuters cameraman "a terrible tragedy" and said an investigation underway could lead to changes in how the 132,000 U.S. soldiers in Iraq decide when and how soon to open fire in a country still beset by guerrilla attacks and lawlessness.

Mazen Dana, a 43-year-old journalist, was killed by U.S. soldiers Sunday while working outside Abu Ghraib prison on Baghdad's outskirts after they apparently mistook his camera for a rocket-propelled grenade. His colleague, Nael Shyoukhi, said that shortly before the shooting a U.S. soldier at the prison had granted them permission to film. At least a half-dozen other journalists -- cameramen, photographers and reporters -- were working nearby, along a barren expanse intersected by a busy highway.

...more...

there are no accidents in this regard :(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #13
18. His death just broke my heart as well...
there has been so much slaughter of so many brave souls.
:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:17 PM
Response to Original message
2. Eason Jordan, eat your heart out!
Stupid freepers...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. My thought exactly
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:18 PM
Response to Original message
3. What, only one?
who do they think they are kidding?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:35 PM
Response to Original message
4. Just a lucky shot.
They can't help it if they're lucky.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:17 PM
Response to Original message
7. Well, as long as they are acting "within the rules of engagement"...
:eyes:
It amazes me how often journalists are killed in Iraq, proportionally, yet many people are so quick to deny that the US, on some level, is targeting them.(And for the record, I am NOT implying that our soldiers are incompetent OR murderers, so if you're gonna flame me, please don't flame me for that!)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #7
24. I remember reading somewhere
that the military went in there with the general attitude that everyone there is the enemy and should therefore be killed.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14744291
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:24 PM
Response to Original message
8. "The investigation concluded that no soldiers fired intentionally."
"This is a recording."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:36 PM
Response to Original message
9. Israel has taught it's puppets well.
And our valiant troops take to the corruption like a duck to water.

They also taught them how to humiliate Arab males and psychologically-destroy muslim women. I say we need Ariel Sharon (or Joe Lieberman) as our next president.

Gyre
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:50 PM
Response to Original message
10. "driven through the checkpoint at high speed"
isn't that getting a little old?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. Don't they all? LOL! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:02 PM
Response to Original message
11. Here is aljazeera (actual) link, instead of informationSTEALINGhouse's...
US admits killing Arab journalists in Iraq
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/64BEFBCA-210E-4E39-B8CD-A2EC8E0EB2F1.htm

Good post, chlamor, thanks!

Lori Price
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:11 PM
Response to Original message
14. I would really like to know when they will admit the same about Mazen Dana
he worked for Reuters for a long time and I'd seen his work many times especially on the Israeli Palestinian conflict. His death was called an "accident", or mistake.

http://about.reuters.com/aboutus/editorial/mazendana/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:13 PM
Response to Original message
15. "The investigation concluded that no soldiers fired intentially"
Well, that's alright then,

:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:43 PM
Response to Original message
16. Easongate
Make it a real pursuit of truth instead of easy partisan bigotry. And the towers of power will fall, if you dare...

But you don't dare, of course you don't dare to go against the CM, you bloody yankee liberal lilylivers!

;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 09:43 PM
Response to Original message
17. Gotta keep the truth under "control". n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:05 AM
Response to Original message
19. US admits killing Arab journalists in Iraq
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/64BEFBCA-210E-4E39-B8CD-A2EC8E0EB2F1.htm

Aljazeera/Reuters:

The US military has acknowledged it was responsible for killing two journalists working for Dubai-based satellite channel al-Arabiya who were shot close to a checkpoint in the Iraqi capital earlier this month.

Al-Arabiya cameraman Ali Abd al-Aziz died on 18 March from a gunshot wound to the head. Correspondent Ali al-Khatib died from his wounds in hospital the next day. Both were Iraqis.

<snip>

On Monday, a US military official said an investigation into the deaths showed troops were responsible, but had acted "within the rules of engagement".

<snip>

Before the 18 March incident, at least four journalists had been killed by US forces in Iraq.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #19
20. "within the rules of engagement"???? WTF????
Shooting journalists is "within the rules of engagement"?
Good God, is shooting anybody anywhere "within the rules of engagement"?

Eason Jordan, you are vindicated.

Our "military official"s have gone absolutely mad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #19
21. when will they admit it was on orders from above.
"within rules of ...."

BUSHIT
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #19
22. well maybe we ARE assassinating journalists and that Italian
journalist wasn't so crazy after all. It would perhaps be smarter of our Army spokesman to wake up and address this directly rather than hiding behind "rules of engagement", because those only work when you're holding the gun.

You can only pile so many coincidences and dead bodies together before the pile starts to stink real bad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Harlequin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #22
25.  -
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 11:36 AM by Harlequin
-
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #19
23. Funny, because both threads' subject lines were misleading
Maybe it's me. This is what the military says:

"The investigation concluded that no soldiers fired intentionally at the Kia," the US military said in a statement.

That's not an admission of "killing" at all. And, while in my view they did kill those people, that isn't what they're admitting to.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #19
26. I just feel so much
Safer now, I cannot begin to express the joy. I will always believe Perle met his end at the hands of people he trusted. You cannot convince me otherwise at this point, sorry to say. This is what the MSM is up against, so those that actually report must have our full support. We also need to stand by our indie journalists/citizen journalists/bloggers and protect them against smears and threats. Remember I posted the other night that Mike Rogers' face, name and phone number was posted, as well as a poster made of him calling him a "homosexual terrorist"? We cannot allow people working to get the truth out to be threatened out, silenced out, and worse. Agreed?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 11th 2024, 03:01 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC