Bush likely to attend Pope's funeral

[emad]

Bush likely to attend Pope's funeral

Press Trust of India

Washington, April 3, 2005|20:29 IST

US President George W Bush is preparing to attend the Pope John Paul II's funeral, a report said.

The President is preparing to attend the funeral, the NBC TV channel reported.

The funeral is likely to take place on or after Thursday, according to reports.

No US President has attended a Pope's funeral before. Bush is not a Catholic. The only President who was a Catholic was John F Kennedy.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1305201,00050001.htm

[mcscajun]

1. Can you say "grandstanding"? I knew you could.

If only the Vatican would tell Chimpy to Stay The Hell HOME!

It's a thought...

[emad]

3. Press Trust of India satiricalspeak?

Both Pope John Paul II and Bush shared the same ideal of spreading democracy and freedom in the dark corners of the world where they don't exist now though the US still finds it impossible to avoid painful compromises while fighting the war on terrorism and for maintaining regional balance of power in key areas.

[mcscajun]

26. Damn. I just lost my breakfast reading that...

:puke:

[fishwax]

59. Not just grandstanding!

it's also trying to cement the political alliance between catholicism and the right-wing fundagelicals, which bush was able to build/exploit in this last election and now hopes to secure for the forseeable future.

I wish the Vatican would tell him to stay home too.

[renaissanceguy]

85. They sure do a good job exploiting the dying and dead

for their own political gain. Of course he wants to make sure he gets in a word or two about how the next pope should be a neocon.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14741193

[Coventina]

2. "No US President has attended a Pope's funeral before."

Bush is not a Catholic....but he IS a pandering, lying, opportunistic, slimy, self-righteous, evil, son of a bitch!!!!

on edit: Here's hoping the presence of the Anti-Christ at JPII's funeral will trigger something. Like, I dunno, the re-animation of the corpse who will chase Chimpy from St. Peter's.

[Windy]

18. If he could, I'm sure he would

While the pope is a forgiving man, there is no love lost there.

[fooj]

4. Has the asshole even been invited? Just what they need...

a 3-ring circus for the Shrub!

Peace!

[riverwalker]

5. Fox: Bush waiting for a formal invitation

Fox just said Bush had not been invited yet. I predict even if he was invited, he will bow out "for security reasons" and send an emissary.

[emad]

7. Maybe he KNOWS he's invited..even tho there's no date set

and the whole thing might be shitfed to Poland anyway - depends what is in JP2's will...

[asjr]

16. Can you imagine the amount of "security" that would be needed?

He is likely to go without an invitation. It is another chance for him to promote his compassion. Every thing that man does is for an ulterior motive.

[cliss]

34. I'm not sure it can even be done.

I'm thinking about the security around Bush. It seems that as time goes on, especially after the 2nd "election", security has gotten larger and larger. More and more police, intelligence people, FBI, CIA and so on. And this is just DOMESTICALLY. Imagine what it would be like in Italy.

I'm assuming most of the events would take place at St. Peter's Square. It's not big enough to hold all the security people. The Vatican would probably also be asked to chip in on the cost. They will probably say "No, thanks". This recently happened when The Emperor travelled to Germany. They decided to forego the thrill and told him no thanks.

[Window]

41. I pray they don't invite that fake.

.

[manly]

47. shitfed?

remarkable the change in meaning you can get when two letters are shifted.

[rzemanfl]

63. I agree that we are all "shitfed" in Bushworld, but in this case

did you mean to say shifted? I have been wondering about Bush having the courage to drive past armed Italians, if the funeral was in Poland that would solve the problem of his driver having to watch for lights and hand signals, or driving too fast.

I really do like the term "shitfed" even if it was a typo.

[Horse with no Name]

90. The ideal representatives for our country

Would be the Carters, Hillary Clinton (Bill isn't well enough--but not sure that will stop him) and (don't flame me) Nancy Reagan.
The Bush cartel should just plant their ass in front of their media and eat pretzels.

[emad]

93. Sorry about that. Shifted became shitfed. Maybe guardian angel

of the internet cafe keyboard was having the afternoon off.....

[Catchawave]

9. I think the Carters would better represent our country

than the warmongers. I'd say the Clintons, but Bill may not be recouperated enough for such a long journey right now.

[Coventina]

10. The Holy See should invite the KERRYS! Ha Ha ha!

Wouldn't THAT be a slap in the face!

And they're the only government that could get away with doing something like that.

on edit: Dumb grammatical error.

[Catchawave]

29. Why not? The Kerrys are Catholic !

And yes, it would be nice representation for my morals and values!

[Pachamama]

54. Maybe now that JPII is gone, Chimpy will ask to borrow the "POPE MOBILE"

and ride around Rome and Vatican City like the Caesar he acts like conquering the world....

Disgusting....if Bush had any class, he'd send some dignitary to represent the US, like the Clintons or the Carters....

Uneffing believable....as a Catholic I find it offensive beyond belief...

[flyarm]

61. i agree with you ..as a catholic i am

offended as well...a murderer going to the popes funeral...that finishes off my disgust in this pig in our white house...i can not stand it any longer..the murdering filthy pig ..to go to the popes funeral...i want to vomit..i hope to god the vatican does not invite the anti christ * ...i bet or i hope the pope left instructions for * the anti -christ to not be invited!!..i pray to god that the pope had the last laugh on *!!!!!!!!!!!!

fly

[Pachamama]

66. I've wondered the same about what kind of "instructions" the Pope may have

left behind re. the Boy King....I bet he has....and I bet they aren't very nice....

You know how there is always been many secret writings and documents in the archives that are not accessible to the public in the Vatican from the Church and from Popes? I'd love to be able to have access to Pope John Paul II's writings from the last 28 years and in particular to see what he had to say about he Chimperor....I bet that he refers in the ugliest of terms of this plague on our earth called George W. Bush....

If Bush wants to avoid more "controversy" and protests from across the world and in Italy at the Pope's funeral, he'll cleverly bow out claiming security concerns and send someone else....

Go ahead George....go to the Funeral....wait and see what awaits you! (but I'd sure love it if a phone call was made in the next 24 hours to the White House saying that "The Pontiff didn't want you there, so please avoid an embarressing situation and us having to publicly state so"....

He needs to be put in his place by someone, and wouldn't it be great if JPII did so in his death....

:hi:

[Jack Rabbit]

6. They'll be too decent to bar him from the services

But they should.

[xultar]

8. Chimpy should not attend. All he's doing is politicizing and using

the Pope's death.
If he does go to the funeral I'll be SICK to my stomach.
I wonder who he's gonna eff in the ass with security demands...

[emad]

12. Maybe he'll send Condi....lace mantilla, lighted candle, rosary

beads et al.

[iamjoy]

40. No, He'll Send Jeb

Remember, Jeb is positioning himself for a 2008 run.

[PA Democrat]

52. That makes sense. Jeb, IIRC converted to Catholicism

for his wife, did he not?

[iamjoy]

74. Yep, Jeb Is Catholic (eom)

[Catchawave]

14. That would be Popementum ?

It's just so obvious he found out how many Catholics are in this country, and his SS plan is in trouble.....:evilgrin:

[Windy]

19. His statement after the popes death

and his Saturday morning speech certainly were opportunistic...trying to equate what he has done with this pope's legacy... It was despicable!

[xultar]

45. For that alone he should burst into flames if he attends the funeral.

:grr:

[rfkrfk]

87. the {late} pope was Head of State

shrub is a Head of State.
they have met.

shrub going a fellow Head of States' funeral
is not that unusual.

[goodboy]

11. I guess he's ok with going to funerals of people whom he didn't have a

hand in killing. i.e. our soldiers.

[Mari333]

13. Thats disgusting..!!

Bush attending the funeral of the pope is a slap in the face to all of the people who followed the Pontiff's words and were against the war in Iraq. And can you imagine the mess of security when the little emperor arrives? Disgusting.

[Windy]

20. And it Italy of all places... a country where most of the population

is vehemently against the war and bush. The outcry will be deafening!

[Solly Mack]

15. He is just ruining it for the mourners that will flock to St Pete's

his security alone will cause disrespectful hassles for actual true mourners..

he has no right to do this to those people wishing to pay their respects..

He's just plain wrong...as usual.

[Rose Siding]

17. The helicopters will all be in black

Do jewelry crossed set off metal detectors?

[all.of.me]

21. it's a chance for him to continue to display his hypocrisy

if it isn't hypocritical, he won't do it.

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. So Bush couldn't go to the Olympics

because his security would have caused too much of a disruption, but it's okay for him to crash the pope's funeral? What a jackass.

[leesa]

23. Good! Piss the Fundies off some more. I like it.

[TahitiNut]

24. I'll give odds he won't go.

First and foremost, it's not about him. It's one thing to attend Olympic ceremonies and go sit center stage among the athletes who earned their participation. So, it's quite another to attend and, by doing so, prohibit the attendance of many thousands of devout Catholics who would rightfully attend. Chimperor Codpiece is not a "man of the people" - he's a posturing, mentally-enfeebled, morally-bankrupt autocrat whose entire raison d'etre is his own recursively pointless existence. He serves only as a bad example to humanity.

[Coventina]

25. Great post! And I hope you are right.

:toast:

[Deb]

30. Absolutely, a devout follower will lose their seat to him n/t

[Laurab]

75. not to mention the hundreds, maybe thousands

who would lose their seats to his security people. Maybe it'd be just shrub and his security, but isn't that the way it should be for the self-appointed leader of the world?

At any rate, I would hope they won't give in to his security demands, and he stays away, as he should.

[leftchick]

55. TN, have I ever told you....

how much I love your posts? Excellent analysis of the psycho in chief.

:)

[TahitiNut]

83. (grin) Always great to hear, luv!

Funny how such feelings are almost always reciprocal, isn't it? I'm always pleased at how intelligent people post things I agree with. :silly: (Those with whom I disagree never seem very intelligent.) :evilgrin:


We should hear pretty soon that Chimperor Codpiece, Caesar Disgustsus, has decided to forego attendance "in the interests of security" and will be sending his brother, JEB (Jackass's Evil Bastard), along with Condomsleazy Rice.

[onehandle]

27. Milk it, George.

Milk death like only you can.

[dArKeR]

28. Child molesting by priests. Pope knew for 40 years, did nothing. Great man

The Vatican has an unbelievable informantion/spy network. Probably better than the FBI, CIA and DIA. With tens of thousands of children being molested and raped by priests around the world you think the Vatican didn't know? Shame on you, shame on the media, shame on the Pope!

[saracat]

42. Give it a rest. The man has stood with the poor and working people his

Whole life. He has helped millions in poverty and suppression. The pope "knew for forty years" ? Really ? Link? Shame on you! And this has what to do with Bush ? And is relevant to the original post how?

[Name removed]

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[nodehopper]

31. he won't go to SOLIDERS' funerals

but he will go to this one. Oh, but of course, they both think abortions are subject to Godwin's law.

[rainbow4321]

56. He only goes where there are cameras....always has.

5 yrs ago there was a tornado that ripped thru downtown Ft Worth and surrounding areas, severely damaging high rise downtown buildings..it was bad.
Chimp was off campaigning for the 2000 election and he never came back to survey the area. Couldn't take time off his campaigning to get back here so he sent the Lt Gov. to survey the damage.

Newspeople cornered the Lt Gov and pointedly asked him where the hell chimp was and why was he not coming back to Texas? The Lt. Gov gave a haf grin and told the reporters that they would have to call chimp's people to find out why he was not coming back.

A few WEEKS later, a Catholic official died in NYC, the funeral was televised, bunch of politicians were invited and who takes time out to show up? Chimp. Guess there were not enough cameras and politicans in Ft Worth for him to consider taking time to come back to his own <already red and not-worth-a-trip> state!

[bluestateboomer]

70. My thoughts exactly.

He should at least go to a funeral for someone whose death he caused.

[tomhayes]

32. Bush needs to be secular

even though he is not.

The Pope gets a funeral visit while out soldier's don't???

[bushcrab]

33. What a tactless turd

If, indeed, this report is correct. I doubt it. Imagine the logistics of sending the most-despised person on earth to a funeral packed with serious Catholics.

For Catholics to allow bush to attend and turn the funeral into a total circus--- what could be a greater act of betrayal than that?

[flordehinojos]

35. A Pope's funeral is not a time for the Bush MILITARIZED CONVOY to be

overcrowding the Funeral, the funeral route, the Italian People nor the regular people gathered to SINCERELY pay their last respects to the POPE. I SINCERELY HOPE THE ROMAN CURIA SAYS A BIG RESOUNDING "NO" TO BUSH'S NEED FOR HIS MILITARIZED BUBBLE OF TANKS, ANTI-TANKS, HELICOPTERS, NAZIFIED POLICE PROTECTION, ETC. ETC. ETC. WHENEVER HE TRAVELS ABROAD and I hope that the paranoid fear that he lives under keeps his butt glued to the chair in the White House's Oval Office.

[gordianot]

38. 100% correct.

The logistics of a Bush presence would be a complete disruption.

[DulceDecorum]

64. Well, since Bush did miss the funeral of Nicola Calipari

perhaps he should go over there and show some solidarity with Guiliana Sgrena.
Silvio Berlusconi is writhing at this news, I am sure.
With pleasure or with pain, I cannot tell. Not with those Abu Ghraib interrogator types.

Incidentally,
who is going to represent Iraq, or Afghanistan, at this event?
Lyndie England and Jack Idema?

[Gman]

36. Who gives a flying fuck what this guy does?

He's aligned with a bunch of fundies that hate Catholics. His going is nothing more than Karl Rove saying he needs to go. Bush never had respect for JPII. If he did, he would have listened to JPII and others and not invaded Iraq.

If anything, Bush attending JPII's funeral is the ultimate sign of disrepect.

Fuck Bush.

Sorry for the rant, but to me, JPII's passing is very personal.

[gademocrat7]

37. The Italian people would

not welcome shrub. They have not forgotten the attempted murder, in Baghdad, of the Italian journalist. And the murder of the government agent protecting her.

[joanski01]

39. Maybe he'll borrow Cheney's hunting

jacket and boots to wear to the funeral! I hope the Italians protest his coming and embarrass the shit out of him. The Polish Pope is special to me, and I don't want the likes of Satan's little helper anywhere near him.

[Theres-a]

43. Monkeys likely to fly out of my butt.

[Cha]

44. Of course, monkeyboy is..

has he EVER missed a photo op? he's getting so ugly though..all he does is let everyone see his malevolence .

[daleo]

46. I dislike Bush as much as the next person here.

But, whatever he does will come in for criticism. If he goes, he is grandstanding. If he doesn't go, he is showing disrespect. I imagine it will depend on what other world leaders do. But security would be a nightmare and it would detract from the service. The Vatican should have a funeral service for the faithful, and perhaps a formal memorial later that world leaders could attend separately.

[manly]

48. Bush to attend Pope's funeral

Inexcusable because you know he's doing it to refurbish his image. Hopefully, they'll stone him.

[Democrats_win]

49. Has he attended a funeral for anyone killed in his war yet?

[Whoa_Nelly]

50. And to think the fool could have shown real compassion

had he gone to Minnesota and attended at least one funeral of the victims of the Red Lake shootings.:rant:
But, since he lacks the compassion component and has no heart, it would have been absurd to see him do anything that actually supports the grief of any Americans, Red Lake, Iraq, etc.

[Bake]

51. That he would crash the JP2's funeral for political reasons is appalling

Millions -- billions, even -- of people who sincerely want to mourn the loss of their spiritual leader, and this pig wants to crash it for political reasons. That is unforgivable. (Along with everything else this pResident has done!).

Let the world grieve John Paul II in peace, Georgie. Don't bring your neocon dog and pony show to it. John Paul did more for the world than you have. Deal with it.

Bake

[Pachamama]

53. Headline should read: "Anti-Christ to attend Pope's Funeral"

That piece of shit...I can't believe that he has the nerve to be such a political panderer for the Catholic vote...but ironically, this probably isn't for the "Catholic Vote" its for his extremist fundamentalist supporters to show him that he is a "Man of God" who would and can attend the Pope's funeral and join in with the religious praying masses for a dead man of God....

[fishwax]

57. playing the faith card

and attempting to cement political alliances b/w catholicism and fundagelicals (who really think the catholic church is the whore of babylon, but are willing to take them on as an ally for now).

[tanyev]

62. I'm wondering what those really rabid fundies

are actually thinking about the non-stop American press adulation of the pope, the order to fly flags at half mast for the pope, and now their Hero wanting to go to the funeral. Some of them must be getting a little peeved.

[Mikimouse]

67. Just wait and see what happens when...

Jerry Foulball bites the dust. The religiocrazies will insist on an even more extravagent memorial for him, combined with an all out, week long tribute to that great humanitarian. :sarcasm:

[JackORoses]

58. how benevolent of him...

he will go to the Pope's funeral

but hasn't been to a single funeral for the Men he sent to die in Iraq

What a caring, compassionate man...

:puke:

[flyarm]

60. will the secret service tell all italians not to look at him??

like he did in his european bisit and the parade people at his inaugeration?? you know he hate to be looked at by the "little " people....
i sure hope the itailians see fit to protest him as if the pope was there calling * the anti- christ!!

and the murderer of their cia guy who got the journalist out...i hope they make his life miserable while in italy!!

what an arrogant pig..the italians don't want our filthy pig murderer at the popes funeral...and yet this arrogant pig will force himself on their countries sad day!

i hate this pig in our white house!

fly

[Bluebear]

65. Yes, and they pronounce it "Eyetalians". n/t

[despairing optimist]

69. St. Peter should rise up and smite him down

That would be a miracle I'd love to witness.

[truthisfreedom]

71. during this time, our Democratic leaders should be relentless in reminding

the nation how Bush let us down by NOT listening to the Pope when he pleaded for peace, when he pleaded that we NOT invade Iraq, that we listen to the UN inspectors, that we give peace a chance.

[readmylips]

72. OK for Castro to attend His Holiness' Funeral but...

bush should stay home reading his bible and having a few smokes with Franklin Graham. Those two are demons.

As a Catholic by birth and culture, Fuck Bush.

[Iterate]

76. Should they evacuate Rome so that he can attend?

Like they did Mainz and so many other cities? The hypocrite, it's an insult to the memory of a great man, and a particular insult to all Catholics.

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[Flammable Materials]

73. Bob Jones will not be pleased. n/t

[Jamastiene]

77. He's going to embarrass us again. Hold on to your seats.

Oh dear. Why did the idiots of America get their way in the last election? We will never be able to recover from this embarrassment of a president. We might as well face it folks. Americans are now going to officially be considered the backwoods hicks of the industrialized countries of the world. We may never recover from him.

[tortfeasor]

78. It's digusting...

not to mention so completely hypocritical... the pope never agreed with U.S. foreign policy, Bush is not Catholic, and he is obviously using this as detestable politic-ing.

[wicket]

88. Amen to that.

Also, welcome to DU!

:hi:

[deadparrot]

79. This is just going to piss off the public.

Italians hate him, and he's scornful of Catholicism. I'd rather him not go than watch his smirking face at a pontiff's funeral. Though I may disagree with JPII on a lot of issues, he does not deserve to have a man who hates Catholics and Catholicism attending his funeral for a photo opportunity.

[mbee]

80. As a Catholic I am writing to the Vatican and request that he not be

invited. That is an outrage and I do not want him associated with the Church. Not after all he has done to this country.

[teryang]

81. Catholicism, divinity, and the war criminal

it's a potent mix in mainstream American propaganda. Will it in Europe?

What would Machiavelli say? This is going straight to the heart of the fraudulent nature of Straussian neo-fascism.

[AussieDave]

82. And will he say that Michael Schiavo pulled

the Pope's feeding tube ??

[peekaloo]

84. The Anti-Christ mocking the faithful.

[unhappycamper]

86. It sure will be interesting if chimpy brings his storm troopers

the US :sarcasm: media :sarcasm: may not be able to spin the pictures.

[Beetwasher]

89. How much of an ASS can Chimpy make of himself at the Pope's funeral?

Chimpy Will Go An Make Innapropriate Remarks and Fart Noises.

I'll bet he'll demand to be a pallbearer or something and knock down a couple of Bishops while running to squeeze through the door before the casket.

Cheney will come too and dress in jeans and a baseball cap.

The SS will have to put everyone through a medal detector and demand the nuns be frisked and give up their rosaries before entering the building.

[Catchawave]

91. Link confirming that Bush is going....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&ncid=2357&e=9&u=/nm/20050404/us_nm/pope_bush_dc_3

[Bo]

92. Stay home asshole.....

you are hated the world over. Except in redland.

[Moderator]

94. locking

updated discussion here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1366459