Gasoline may hit $2.50 by Memorial Day, $3.00 in California

[xray s]

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/invest/extra/P113906.asp

Gas to hit $2.50 by Memorial Day, experts say

The U.S. average is already running above $2.15 a gallon, well beyond last spring's peak. California prices could zoom close to $3.

Regular gasoline pump prices in the United States may average as high as $2.50 by Memorial Day, shattering the records as futures prices climb to new peaks, analysts said on Friday.

[montanacowboy]

1. It's already $2.35/gallon for regular

in Seattle NOW!!! if this keeps up by Memorial Day it will be $5.00

[physioex]

2. Yea no kidding.....

Then we will all be up shit creek....

[understandinglife]

7. At a BP station on QA Hill in Seattle, yesterday, regular $ 2.49...

....mid-range, $ 2.69.......

I agree with you that it's going to be way over $3.00 by Memorial day. Meeting later today with folk to discuss, among other transporting topics, a partnership to begin building a test-version "hydrogen" station.

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[kurtyboy]

100. Today, I got in line at a Bellingham, WA Arco station

For gas at $2.38/gal. The wait was too long--and after ten minutes I headed up the street. I bypassed the Chevron at $2.55 and drove south. When I got to the Cook Road Exit on I-5, I was running on fumes, so took fuel at $2.47/gal.

If I'd felt more confident, I could have made it to Burlington Costco, which has fuel at $2.28 (today.....). But every station I passed seems to be poised to raise prices on an hourly basis.

I'm old enough to remember the last time prices moved this fast (early eighties), and I also remember how devastating it was to the economy.

God, help us.

[wallwriter]

17. If it were really that expensive

people would drive less. The figures adjusted for inflation and calculated as a portion of people's overall incopme are still not as high as they were in the 1970s. We're just a biger bunch of crybabies now. Gas should be $6 or $7 with tax revenue used for public transportation and research.

[buff2]

21. Oh,give me a break......

It's nice to see you can pay these high ass gas prices with glee. Most of us are hurting out here. Who did you vote for in the last two elections? Oh,never mind..... :eyes:

[thinkingwoman]

35. sorry but

some of us don't have access to mass transit.

My hubby drives an hour to work. No bus. No train. No other option.

Worse still, no carpooling because he works retail and his shifts are all over the place.

So tell me again how we'll drive less if it's so expensive? For us, that would involve losing our income and becoming homeless.

[aneerkoinos]

46. Sorry for you

But you must realize it's not going to get better, only worse. Difficult choises ahead. You must seriously start to think what is the acceptable level of material well-being to and how can you maintain that (not starving and link to net?). If moving downtown closer to jobs (bicycle distance) is an option, start thinking about that. See the movie "End of Suburbia" if you can.

[thinkingwoman]

55. I don't live in suburbia

I live in rural America.

My God people if we want to win elections by enough of a landslide that the Republicans can't steal it, we've got to get everyone on the same page with regular Americans!

My family exists on 28,000/yr in rural Indiana. That job is NOT available closer to home. We just lost our family business. We do not own our home. We obviously will move closer to the only work he could find as soon as we can but in the meantime...

Oh, forget it. I give up. Believe that it's just a matter of choices all you want.

[aneerkoinos]

61. Matters of choice

The situations and changes we find ourselves are seldom a matter of choice. The only choice we got is how we choose to view the situation and respond to it.

I'm afraid the situation in US has got to the stage it would not make any difference if Dems miraculously won an election. "Regular" Americans living in ignorance and denial is part of the problem.

Blame games and guilt trips just waste energy, never helped anybody.

[Tesha]

63. Maybe you live in the wrong place.

> I live in rural America.

If your life (job, etc.) doesn't revolve around your local community,
maybe you live in the wrong place.

Because of cheap gas, Americans seemed to get it into their heads
that they could live anywhere and work anywhere, as compared to the
old days when people tended to live close to their work. Well, the
days of cheap gas are over, and maybe now it's time to once again
live close to work.

Tesha

[thinkingwoman]

69. I live in the town

where I grew up. I left and lived happily in several locations throughout the country, but came back to run the family biz. I lived 6 blocks from my work and never had to drive except to the grocery store.

The biz went under this winter and we are trying to gather the resources to relocate.

I just find it annoying to come across posts that flippantly (and gleefully) announce that people should simply drive less. That's just not an option for everyone, especially those living in rural America. Unless we simply depopulate a large part of the nation, telling people to simply drive less (without providing mass transit as an alternative) is like telling them to piss in the wind.

Will it be an option once we relocate? Absolutely. I'm not stupid. But the money being sucked away from us while we have to commute is actually prolongig the relocation and threatens to put us in a catch 22. I just don't feel gleeful about that.

[Tesha]

71. It may not be an option, but it's likely to be a fact.

> I just find it annoying to come across posts that flippantly (and
> gleefully) announce that people should simply drive less.

It may not be an option, but it's likely to be a fact. And it won't
matter *HOW* you feel about it.

You'll just have to get used to the ideas that:

1. Fuel will be more and more scarce, and

2. When you can get it at all, it will cost a *LOT* more.


> Unless we simply depopulate a large part of the nation

It, in fact, is quite likely to come to that. No one is going to
provide mass transit to East Holeinthewall; it simply can't be
either cost-effective or energy-effective this side of portable
fusion plants. If there's no living to be made in East Holeinthewall,
the people there are just going to have to move on, as in The
Grapes of Wrath.

The world is changing, and none of us are likely to like it.

Tesha

[thinkingwoman]

79. this is so completely unrealistic

Try depopulating a large section of the nation. Watch what happens.

The subject of peak oil and the ramifications of it are serious and important issues to discuss, but the fantasy of the grapes of wrath II coming to America is so unrealistic that middle America isn't going to listen.

[mtnester]

84. Hi ho, Hi ho, its back to agrarian society we go

glad our family has 200 prime, fertile acres with three overland water sources, plus an underground spring and 4 - 380' wells..

screw that developer that wants to talk to us.

[Tesha]

87. Whatever you say.

> this is so completely unrealistic"
>
> Try depopulating a large section of the nation. Watch what happens.
>
> The subject of peak oil and the ramifications of it are serious and
> important issues to discuss, but the fantasy of the grapes of wrath
> II coming to America is so unrealistic that middle America isn't
> going to listen.

Whatever you say -- let's talk again in 10 years when we see how it
worked out.

Tesha

[thinkingwoman]

89. will do. nt

[Megahurtz]

81. I'm not telling you what to do but

the situation you describe sounds pretty depressing, and I would get out.
Relocate.
As far as money, I would sell most everything and start new somewhere else with much less, then build up again.
I wouldn't wait until you "have the money to move" that could be too much, and you could be waiting for years.
You would be amazed how many new doors open for you when you finally close the old ones that are dragging you down.

[thinkingwoman]

90. This is good advice

We're trying to do this.

[SammyWinstonJack]

74. Frustrating isn't it?

"Oh, forget it. I give up. Believe that it's just a matter of choices all you want." :banghead:

[LiberallyInclined]

75. it is a matter of choice.

people pick up and move every day.
they get jobs where they can live closer to home.
they create opportunities.
most people make the choices that they're most comfortable with.
your entire life has been a series of choices that have led you to where you are today...you may not see it, or want to see it- but yes, it is all about choices.

[thinkingwoman]

80. I chose to lose my biz?

I chose to have my business (which had been around more than a century) go under?

Right.

Had I chosen that, I would have picked a more opportune time.

[Tesha]

88. It's how you *REACT* that is the choice.

> I chose to have my business (which had been around more than a
> century) go under?

No, of course you didn't choose that, but how you now react to the
loss of that business is certainly a choice. One way you can react
is by moving closer to better opportunities.

Tesha

[thinkingwoman]

91. Haven't I said

that we are trying to do so?

Unfortunately, we have a transition period we have to go through...where we tie up loose ends and liquidate assets.

During that transition, it would be nice not to have to spend more to commute than we pay in rent.

[AndyTiedye]

60. But Downtown Isn't Closer To Most of the Jobs

Most are in some industrial park off the freeway 20 miles from town.
Acres of free parking, but no transit service, and almost inaccessable by bicycle in many cases.

A couple of times in my career, I had jobs downtown. They never last.
The downtown office gets closed and they move our jobs to the suburbs.

I moved out of the city to shorten my commute.

We simply don't have the kind of job stability anymore to allow everyone
to live close to work, especially since most households need two
incomes to get by. If everybody moves every couple of years to get close to their new job,
forget about building any kind of community,
and too bad for the kids, hope they can make friends *quickly*
(and you too, for that matter).

The reverse commute in some of the most desirable cities is as heavy
as the regular one. These are people who live in the city, but have
to drive out to the suburbs to work. They typically have even fewer
options for using public transport than suburbanites who work downtown
and they often have long commutes.

The city is full. If we move in, somebody with less money has to move out.
A lot of that went on in San Francisco during the .com boom.

You will get more than enough people moving in from the suburbs as it is.
You don't need to encourage even more migration. You need to show
the folks in the suburbs how to build their own cities so you can
keep your own from being overrun.

Public transportation in the city, in the suburbs, and particularly
between suburbs needs to improve, big time.

We need to build up our rail system, not shut it down (as the regime is planning to do!).
When trains are clean, and fast, and on time, and can get you where
you need to go, people ride them.

Short-range electric vehicles and bicycles could possibly bridge the
gap in lower-density areas, and allow public transport to work there.
Areas around transit stations are likely to be up-zoned for higher
density as transit is extended.

Whoever can figure out how to build sustainable suburbs will become
richer than Bill Gates.

[thinkingwoman]

92. Well said! nt.

[Webster Green]

38. Is that so?

Links?

This is the internets, ya know!

Welcome to DU}(

[xray s]

40. Huh?

maybe its no biggie if you are a big shot corporate type making $150,000 a year, driving a Hummer.

But if you work for a living you are getting screwed by these prices.

In 1975, UPS hired truck loaders at $8.00 an hour to start. McDonald's paid $4.25 an hour. Gas was 49 cents a gallon.

Today, UPS pays $8.50 for truck loaders, McDonald's pays $5.15 an hour, and gas is heading to $3.00 a gallon.

That's reality, outside the corporate cocoon.

[aneerkoinos]

47. Reality sucks

Only thing you can do is abandon false hopes and make the best of it. Sorry, but whining really does not help anyone.

Certainly the reality would suck less if we could smash the corporate cocoon, and go to the root of problem and start rebuilding from there.

[durablend]

68. (puke) "Then you need three, four, or five more jobs"

[aneerkoinos]

43. You are right, of course

After the previous crisis Europe chose to keep gas prices that high through taxes, so that suburbanization has not gone here to the same extremes as in US.

The chalice is bitter but sooner you drink it the sooner you get over. And of course the crybabies are right also, US infrastructure and social planning (or rather lack of that) is not designed for paying as much as euros do for the gas. So FUCKING BETTER to raise taxes while there's still few months time, raise minimum waiges, special tax on SUV's etc., and invest like hell in building mass transit and renewable energy.

Yeah, D'oh!!!

[xray s]

45. Don't forget a windfall profit tax

Exxon made $7,000,000,000 last quarter. A record for any corporation, ever.

Invest it in mass transit, renewable energy and conservation.

[aneerkoinos]

62. Ha!

Fuck the poor and building new energy infrastructure, it's ownership society of quartiary-capitalism, that 7 billion belongs to stock-holders and their consumerist party and nobody else! Mo Coke to Blow!!!

[Sabriel]

66. Hello! It also hits food prices, or don't you mind that?

I don't know about you, but my grocery bill has skyrocketed. I supposed you're gleeful about that, too?

[SleeplessinSoCal]

29. $2.50/2.60/2.70 in Orange County, CA

[livetohike]

3. $2.49/gallon here in Oceanside, CA

I think the $3.00/gallon by Memorial Day will happen and probably even hire. I actually saw gas for $2.69/gallon yesterday.

[obxhead]

4. $2.25/gal is cheap in northern VA right now

$3.00/gal doesn't seem a far stretch of the imagination for this summer.
Yet ALL of the gas co's are announcing RECORD PROFITS.
me - I'm buyin a scooter :)

[gristy]

5. If this keeps up, we'll see inflation

BIG time, and all the wonderful things that come with it: a falling stock market, displaced workers, a decreased standard of living...you get the idea....

[Kolesar]

13. Like 1979 when it caused the mills to close

The town I was from had 50% unemployment when the energy-intensive steel industry failed.

[buff2]

24. I thought we were already there...

:shrug:

[gristy]

25. No. We aren't.

You haven't seen nothin' yet...

[Thor_MN]

41. Nope, the * white house has decided that fuel should be excluded

from inflation calculations along with food prices because they are "volatile." If they can't win, they just change the rules - shrubby has been doing it since he was a kid.

So the answer is simple, just cut food and fuel out of your budget, the same way the white house has done.

[raccoon]

65. Glad you pointed that out

that it's not just paying more for gas, the price of just about everything will go up. It costs more to transport goods, so the price of goods goes up. Expenses rise for businesses that provide services, so the price of services goes up. And so it goes.
Higher prices across the board. The suckin' 70's all over again.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

73. No kidding!

I haven't had a car for 2 or 3 years now. (I moved to the city and there is ample public transportation here.)

The rising gas prices used to not really concern me at all. Until a few months ago, that is, when I found myself paying over $4 for a gallon of milk and over $2 for a head of plain old Iceberg lettuce.

The rising price of fuel oil affects everyone.

[The_Casual_Observer]

6. Premium is above $2.70 already.

$3.00 isn't far away. I used to care, however, since the advent of the suv and h2, and since I drive an economy model, I couldn't care less how much they charge.

[LiberalFighter]

8. Ft Wayne IN from $2.08 on Sunday to $2.38 Today

[FloridaPat]

9. Gas went up 10 cents yesterday! Everything I buy is up 20-50%.

What is inflation if not paying more for the same product?

[slackmaster]

10. It's great being on the cutting edge of everything here in California

:argh:

[HockeyMom]

14. California be grateful

you don't have to pay for home heating costs. My gas heat bill (not oil which is higher) was $400 for ONE MONTH. That is with putting the thermostat all the way down, wearing big sweaters, and going out and an buying electric heater and bringing it from room to room. I could not lower the setting anymore or my pipes would freeze. We had a very cold, snowy winter in the NE.

[obxhead]

20. There is something wrong!!!!

I had a similar problem in an apartment here. $300 a month for gas and my toes and fingers were ice cubes and I looked like the Michelin man from so many clothes on.
Long story short it was a gas co problem in billing/measurements and they reluctantly are fixing the problem. It took a LOT ofd bitching to make this happen though.
best of luck.

[Dem2theMax]

36. Average electric bill for small home here in So. Calif. is $300.00

plus per month. Grateful for what? Arnold? LOL.

[Megahurtz]

82. Right. Everyone everywhere else thinks

life is so easy in California.:rofl:

[slackmaster]

85. My SDG&E bill is under $100 most of the year including gas

If you live inland then you will have heating and A/C expenses that I don't.

[Webster Green]

39. We don't have to pay for our home heating costs?

Hell, thats news to me!

Where do I sign up?

[catzies]

51. We did have Enron-induced blackouts in the summer of 2001

Heating and cooling costs are seasonal, gas price hikes hurt all year long.

[Xithras]

101. Yep, just filled up at $2.65 a gallon earlier

n/t

[cyberpj]

11. Get used to it - Rolling Stone article says this is the START

The Long Emergency - Global Oil Production will peak this year


The Long Emergency
By James Howard Kunstler
Current issue - Rolling Stone Magazine

What's going to happen as we start running out of cheap gas to guzzle?

Carl Jung, one of the fathers of psychology, famously remarked that "people cannot stand too much reality." What you're about to read may challenge your assumptions about the kind of world we live in, and especially the kind of world into which events are propelling us. We are in for a rough ride through uncharted territory.

It has been very hard for Americans -- lost in dark raptures of nonstop infotainment, recreational shopping and compulsive motoring -- to make sense of the gathering forces that will fundamentally alter the terms of everyday life in our technological society. Even after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, America is still sleepwalking into the future. I call this coming time the Long Emergency.

(snip...)
Now we are faced with the global oil-production peak. The best estimates of when this will actually happen have been somewhere between now and 2010. In 2004, however, after demand from burgeoning China and India shot up, and revelations that Shell Oil wildly misstated its reserves, and Saudi Arabia proved incapable of goosing up its production despite promises to do so, the most knowledgeable experts revised their predictions and now concur that 2005 is apt to be the year of all-time global peak production.

It will change everything about how we live.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/7203633

[paula777]

19. So this is the start of peak oil? It just gets worse from here?

[cyberpj]

32. US peaked in the 70's - global is peaking now (so they say) eom.

[understandinglife]

12. Scrap metal is definitely going to be an even better business, soon...

....I'll give you $ 100.00 for that ($80K) SUV and a lollypop for the kid.....

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[slackmaster]

15. All forms of recycling are going to be booming businesses

It costs a shitload less energy to recover metals from scrap than to extact them from ore.

[understandinglife]

16. Precisely! And, the markets for that metal are vast and expanding. (nt)

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[lovuian]

18. California is going to close those borders because they

won't be able to drive there!!!

[MikeDuffy]

22. How many of us can easily de-power our cars...

for better gas mileage? I drive a 68 beetle w/ 1600cc pistons/cylinders. They also make 1300cc (and 1500cc) varieties that I can cheaply (~$100) replace mine with, with some time/effort on my part. I have a spare smaller carburetor (30 PICT-1 to replace my present 34 PICT-3 for those who care) which may also be stingier with the gas. Anybody else have ideas on cost-effective alterations that may be of use to others? (I also intend to use a bicycle and walk more and drive less).

[buff2]

23. I'm wondering how long the American people are going to

sit back with their mouths shut and take these gas hikes? If Clinton was in office there would be riots in the streets and strikes out the ying yang. Oh,I almost forgot....we have the Lord and Master in office now.... moving on....

[raccoon]

67. I'm hoping one good thing will come out of high gas prices

maybe some of the * supporters will, finally, when it hits them with a wallop in the pocketbook, wake up and see what's going on.
Maybe it'll help in the elections, 2006 anyway, and maybe 2008 (if not for factors like Har-ris, Die_bold, etc.)

So many people don't pay attention to anything outside their little world and what's on the TV---until it affects them personally.

[Daphne08]

26. I expect it to be higher than $3.00 here in California!

and I think the American people are just about to get angry! Maybe a couple more months of this...

[rainbow4321]

27. $2.18 in North Texas..

We blew right by the $2 mark. My daughter said her minimum wage earning high school friends are spending over $45/tank...

[CountAllVotes]

28. $2.15/gallon don't I wish (just paid $2.69!!!!!!!!)

Just filled up the car. It was $2.69 a gallon for the cheap stuff.

Where's this $2.50? I'll take it!

:kick:

[nolabels]

50. Me too, just $.31 more cents.............

:woohoo:



I will :rofl: at them folks in all them monster SUVs when it hits $5.00.

Misery loves company especially when they even more miserable :-)

[durablend]

97. Again, like others in this thread, you're not getting it

The ones that likely had the money for the Hummers and Escalades likely don't give a shit what gas goes up to...it's the little pee-ons that are going to get burned.

[nolabels]

102. Yes they do, a lot of them anyway

Being thrifty is not in the vogue as of yet(probably will never be if your a follower of the Madison avenue fashion nuts). Us lower and middle income people will have to make do. And on the bright side it is just one more brick pulled out of the wall. With the added benefit of keeping us more busy trying to figure out our transportation and less time listening or believing any of their message. Bringing our oil prices in line with the rest of the worlds will be a good thing. It will be a good wake up call of how the rest of world is living.

Besides some of these low fuel prices are being partly subsidized indirectly by taxes which more directly effect the poor. There is good reason to also believe a good chunk of the military part of budget is a result of trying to keep the price of oil cheap. Us regular people are paying for this crap of keeping oil cheap in many ways besides just the ole blood and guts, but now the dam is breaking and they can longer hold the line.

It will take awhile and some upheaval will come as a result but in the long run things will have to change. The rest of this hungry world knows too much about what it happening around it and there is no way bushco can mount an entire military force big enough to fight entire planet. The days of cheap subsidized gas and petroleum products are over. Get over it and adapt, in the long run us little guys have a lot less to loose and change than the big players.

[Purveyor]

30. Mid-Michigan today $2.44 unl/reg... n/t

[west michigan]

34. 2.44 on the west side

as well. Never thought I would see lines of cars waiting to pay $2.19 a gallon.

[NeoConsSuck]

31. Well don't forget..

this is the OIL adminstration. Bush, Cheney Rice.

But they're not stupid, they'll have the price down in time for the '06 elections. And the sheeple will soon forgive.

[Berserker]

33. $2.35 in

Wisconsin tonight

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

37. Didn't Pres'dent Boosh say he would "jawbone OPEC into lower prices?"

during the 2000 campaign?

Thanks, ignorant southern redneck voters for making it cost so damn much to drive to work!

[chlamor]

42. This will impact cost of food dramatically

Get goin' folks with your local food systems.

Turn your lawn into food.
Container gardening.
Cold Frames.
Community root cellars.
Learn to save seed.
Rooftop gardens.
Sprouting (a superfood that is easy)
Get chickens if you have the space-Doesn't require much
Urban composting programs

Forget about when peak oil is arriving.
Get active with your local school board-city council-transportation council-and other organizations on this issue

[Thor_MN]

44. $2.35 in Minnesota and Gov. Tim Blinky wants to mandate E20

While more use of Ethanol is probably a good thing, requiring yet another different mix is just going to result in shortages. If they want to phase in E20, fine, but slamming it in place is going to cause Minnesota's price to soar.

[bastille90]

48. California gas

This morning in Central California....unleaded reg...2.55...mid grade 265...premium 2.75....up 8 cents from saturday

[BadGimp]

49. I hope people in the fly-over states are happy

They voted these oily criminals into power. NOw they get to reap the rewards of their own ignorance.

[KalicoKitty]

52. Meanwhile, the oil companies are making billions

We are being gouged so they can profit BILLIONS!


We can't do a damn thing about it because they own the administration! BIG OIL rules!


ChevronTexaco Buying Rival Unocal for $17B


"ChevronTexaco earned $13.3 billion last year, the most profitable year since its inception in 1879. Unocal earned $1.21 billion last year, nearly doubling its profit from the previous year."


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/nationworld/ats-ap_business11apr04,0,3310574.story?coll=sns-business-headlines

[beyurslf]

53. 2.15 here still. This was the first weekend in a long time we didn't have

a 10-15 cent jump on Friday. It's been in the 2.13-2.18 range for almost 2 weeks now.

[lanlady]

54. what a difference a week makes

I was in Europe last week, came back to find gas had risen $0.10 / gallon in my part of the DC 'burbs.

This area, a Pentagon "bedroom community," went 70% Bush/Cheney in November. The assholes are getting what they deserve.

[olddad56]

56. If we all drove big friggin SUV's we could push it up to $5 a gallon.

[_NorCal_D_]

57. I got gas today. $2.47 a gallon for regular.

:wow: Thankfully it will be a while before I have to refill because I drive a car that gets decent mileage.

[lebkuchen]

58. This will usher in hybrids, quickly

Most in Europe drive diesels, and although the SUV can be seen from time to time here, cars are still relatively small compared to the US, and driving distances are shorter, so the over $4.00 gal/probably works out about the same to that in the US.

[pinniped]

59. Practically all of the stations in SF, CA were $2.50+ for regular today.

Maybe one or two were $2.47 or $2.49.

[Jose Diablo]

64. Whatever happened to the Enron energy traders that gouged California

We hear about Ken Lay, but what about the 'nut and bolt' operators themselves. Has any of them ever been identified. Could they now be operating in the oil futures market, doing pretty much the same market manipulation, but with oil.

All the focus is on 'shortages'. Sure I know about peak oil, but I wonder. The movement of the price of oil seems to be following a man made manipulated shortage, not a true shortage of lack of a product to be had anyplace.

Another thing, the so called 'strategic oil reserve'. If the military buys oil and then pumps it into the salt dome storage reserve, how do we know it is really there? I mean its not like there is a long wooden measuring stick to measure how much is there like in a gas station. It must be like making a ledger entry in a set of books that says we put this much in and taken this much out, therefor their MUST be that left. But there is no way to actually measure how much is really there.

The reason I mention the 'strategic oil reserve' is because if there is a large purchaser of a product, that purchaser can manipulate the quantity of oil that remains for other users, thus the supply can be artificially manipulated.

Does anybody here know how the 'strategic oil reserve' system works in the market? Who knows, maybe a lot of oil is bought for the oil reserve and the books say say the oil was pumped into storage, but it wasn't. The oil was actually then sold to say China or maybe India and the money was then moved through a set of accounts (not available to see because of national security naturally) and eventually moved into an off-shore account of none other than our very own leaders. I know this sounds tinfoil, but it just makes me wonder when I see the price of oil moving irrationally. It seems like a energy crunch a la California remix.

[Az_lefty]

70. Has anyone checked to see how much the bush family is profiting from this?

The bush cartel is heavily invested in oil and it seems to me that it would be to their advantage to keep prices up. Is that what's going on here?
:shrug:

[Ms_Mary]

72. In rural America, where everything requires driving, it hurts.

I've been researching fuel economy and looking into downsizing cars.

[leftchick]

76. I paid $2.27 a gallon in NYS over the weekend...

It is about .19 less here in NC. What a crappy year to be driving to the beach. It might be cheaper to fly!

[emc]

77. think about this---gas prices

number one---with the price of gas going up----and the hot weather not even here yet, are you going to turn on your air conditioner on your car when you drive this summer--that subtracts at least a half a mile per gallon off off you mileage---you wont be idling anymore either when you stop to shop in walmart with the air on----

second, why dosent this this asshole in the white house declare an emergency and lower the speed limits on the highways--this may not go over so big with the rich- but the for the little guy it might help---in other words, lower the speeds and save fuel nationally, which converts to more fuel for everyone----Nixon did this if you remember---

third----trucks have to stop running so fast and idling all night long with air conditioners running just to sleep---did you ever go into a truck stop and look at the trucks all running their motors----this takes between 10 and 15 gallons a night---translate that to cost at 3 dollars a gallon---thats 45 dollars a night to idle----............

comments?????

[durablend]

98. Comments? Hum...okay

What's reducing the speed limits going to do unless you somehow think * is going to fund more police to enforce them? States are already stretched to the limit and definitely can barely afford what they've got, let alone hire any new ones.

As for trucks, 1) taint no way in hell you're going to get them to slow down when there's money (if not their JOB) at stake, 2) I think it costs more in diesel fuel for them to kill the engine than let it run at idle...you'll have to look it up, but I'm pretty sure there is a reason they let them run.

[emc]

99. sorry your wrong

I trucked for 20 years---owned 6 rigs---it dosent cost anything to shut them down----you just turn the key----just like in your car ---

as far as truckers slowing down----I truck running 55 mph gets one mile per gallon more then a truck running 75----thats the difference between 5.5 and 6.5 miles per gallon---thats not a saving----tell me it isnt---

and it dosent take anymore police, as a matter of fact its easier to track a car moving 75 as apposed to 55---and their out there anyway--
You also save lives----

[Marnieworld]

78. I filled my tank today in PA at $2.49 a gallon

then they gouged me $1.90 for a 16oz juice the bastards!

[siliconefreak]

83. I've got you all beat!

$2.75/gallon for REGULAR unleaded near the Oakland (CA) airport yesterday. I believe premium was $3.05/gallon. :wow:

(Luckily I don't own a car. :woohoo: )

[ckramer]

86. Before the invasion of Iraq, I paid ...

$1.80 a gallon for gas. After 1,500 dead solider and 100,000 dead Iraqis, I paid $2.15 per gallon.

Hey, what's going on here?

War inflation?

MAD!

[Power Trowell]

93. I paid $2.49 for regular in Calif today

Wasn't even my car , it was one I had borrowed. ;(

[livetohike]

95. Welcome to DU Power Trowell

:hi:

I saw gas for $2.59 for regular unleaded today here in Oceanside.

[young_at_heart]

94. What was the highest price under Clinton?

It would be nice to remind the people who care so much about those evasive "values".

[edbermac]

96. As gas prices go up, Chimpy's poll numbers go down...

If we have have to pay more at the pump to get Bush & Co out of power, it'll be well worth it...