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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:48 AM
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Faithful Pray for Miracles Before John Paul's Tomb
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 11:49 AM by NNN0LHI
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<snip>Vatican guards moved the faithful along quickly -- trying to avoid the mammoth lines that paralyzed central Rome lastweek when the Pope's body was laid in state. snip

On Wednesday, the wait was about 20 minutes with visitors allowed only a second or so in front of the flat marble gravestone before the guards cried out "avanti" -- or "moveon."

"It's no way to do things," said Guiseppe Mutti, 62, who traveled to Rome from Verona to say farewell to John Paul.

"You could start praying when you reached the tomb. But by the time you finished, you were somewhere else."

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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:48 AM
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1. Oh yeah, that'l happen.
hopefully they are all holding their breath too.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:50 AM
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2. Okay...praying to a dead body is just odd.
If JPII is in heaven, then you can be just about anywhere and pray to/for him as you see fit.

Do people honestly believe that proximity to his corpse will make a miracle more likely?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:53 AM
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5. Perhaps he isn't in heaven?
:eyes:
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:51 AM
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3. God no!
Just wait. Two people will claim a miracle, get it vetted, and the Church will use it to canonize JPII. Yikes!

Sue
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:57 AM
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6. According to my mother
who is more up on these things, a person isn't suppose to be considered for sainthood until they've been dead at least 5 years (and has two miracles attibuted to them). She didn't appreciate it when I said I thought the Baseball Hall of Fame also had a 5 year retirement rule before a player can be considered for induction.
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:51 PM
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9. I'd like to know WHAT he did to
deserve sainthood? Try comparing him to, say, Mother Teresa.



http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/477698
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Brooklyn Michael Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:12 PM
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10. Mother Teresa?
You mean the same Mother Teresa who the Pope nominated for sainthood after just one year, instead of the normal 5 years that the church says should pass befome one is considered for sainthood?

And this would be the same Pope John Paul II who shelled out a record number of sainthoods, over 465 as of just a couple years ago, and some 1,300 beatifications, more than all the canonisations and beatifications in the preceding 400 years?

That Pope?

Sorry if I sound disrespectful, but I'm coming pretty close to the end of my rope as far as the Pope-a-thon goes. His secretary says she witnessed a "miracle" - I hold this no more seriously than I did when Terri Schivo's parents said that AAAAAHHHH WAAAAAAA mean "I want to live".
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:52 AM
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4. I would pray for Bush/Cheney's impeachment.
And I'll tell you... I'm as lapsed a Catholic as you can get. BUT, if the miracle of GOP impeachment were to occur through the intercession of JPII's soul ... hey, I'll support him for sainthood, all the way!
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katmondoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:57 AM
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7. I am praying too for removal of the Bush's and all the right wing
wacko's with him. I think the whole world would consider this a miracle if one day soon there is a catastrophic event that will end their power.
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indy_azcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:23 PM
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11. Maybe the Mormons will have him baptized...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 02:09 PM
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12. "Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz...."
"My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends!"
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