Italian Radio reporting that a Pope has been chosen.

[Midlodemocrat]

No link yet. ABC News is reporting that Italian Radio is reporting that the smoke is white.

[SW FL Dem]

1. CNN is showing white smoke too

no link and no bells yet.

[merwin]

66. AP Link Here:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20050419/ap_on_re_eu/pope

[katty]

182. NaziPope-more divisiveness and tyranny-good lord!

[Liberal Veteran]

2. Perhaps Cheech and Chong were just visiting Italy?

:shrug:

[Ishoutandscream]

7. LOL! The Vatican succumbs to pop culture

and the hip-hop community. The new pontiff has chosen the name "Pope Diddy."

[Liberal Veteran]

9. I thought they were going to reach out to the GLBT community with...

..Pope Ru Paul.

[CBHagman]

39. That's the best thing I've heard all day.

And his message would be "If you can't love yourself, how the hell can you love someone else?"

[leftchick]

3. the smoke may be white but the bells have to ring....

Since there has been confusion as to smoke color in the past they now ring the Sistine Chapel's bells along with the smoke to verify. Has anyone heard the bells?

[Midlodemocrat]

4. No.

I am watching ABC right now and they mentioned the bells, but apparently Italian Radio is proclaiming that the smoke is white. It sure looks white to me.

[Liberal Veteran]

5. To the tintinnabulation that so musically wells

From the bells, bells, bells, bells,
Bells, bells, bells -
From the jingling and the tinkling of the bells.

[wicket]

6. Bells, bells, bells, bells, bells!

:)

[Tippy]

18. WE HAVE A NEW POPE

THE BELLS ARE RINGING

[ronnykmarshall]

59. What is it they say in Latin?

I wish I could see this on TV.

[mimitabby]

Nuntio vobis gaudium magnum, habemus Papam

[Tippy]

81. I wish you could see this also

About 23 minutes before the bells began to toll we saw the big bell move ever so slightly....Apx 11:23 centeral time we saw the curtins covering the door to the balcony move..they are moving again just now

[Midlodemocrat]

8. LOL. Vatican Radio

is now reporting that they aren't sure if the smoke is white or black.

The most authorative of the wire services in Italy still proclaims the smoke is white.

[terrya]

12. Given the debacle of reporting the pope's death...

I don't have a lot of faith in these reports. I'll wait. :-)

[maddezmom]

has anyone reporting any bells yet?

[brooklynite]

10. Live Smoke Cam

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7367404/?CM=SpatPopeObit&CE=NBCvideo

[hippiechick]

13. O.M.G. What next ?

A webcam to watch smoke. :eyes:

[ronnykmarshall]

97. It's kinda like the yule log!

:silly:

[Matilda]

11. Watching BBC World Service, and the smoke looks white.

But no bells yet. Strange.

[Midlodemocrat]

14. I know. It sure is weird

Apparently the crowd just went wild with cheers, but it was just the 6PM bell ringing.

Sure wish we knew one way or another.

[Midlodemocrat]

15. The bells are ringing.

There is a new Pope!

[wicket]

17. woo hoo!

Wonder who it is :)

[maddezmom]

20. CNN now showing the bells

:)

[SW FL Dem]

16. The bells are ringing n/t

[Matilda]

19. Yes, the bells are ringing now.

For sure - we have a pope.

[arcos]

21. dupe, please delete

[hippiechick]

22. dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1405467

[Arkana]

And who is it, I wonder?

[Midlodemocrat]

24. I think they will tell us in about 1/2 hour or so.

[leftchick]

45. crap..

I hate when they break into my soaps. Can't they just use a crawl? :grr:
(and I am Catholic too! This is no biggie to me)

[Kellanved]

23. bells ringing: Habemus Papam

Or so it appears. The Berlin Catholic Priests seem to believe it, from the sound of it.

[Teaser]

29. 10 points for Latin!

Go Classics!

[bpilgrim]

25. nobody cares who

just as long as 'we' got one ;->

anybody gotta link?

peace

[maddezmom]

30. link

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1504&ncid=1504&e=1&u=/afp/20050419/ts_afp/vaticanpopeconclaveelect_050419160438

[Midlodemocrat]

32. Try this.

It is breaking news, so it might appear as just a banner.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/04/19/pope.tuesday/index.html

This is a better link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4462077.stm

[bpilgrim]

73. thanks all

:toast:

peace

[progmom]

26. Please don't let it be Ratzinger... eom

[Mizmoon]

27. you KNOW it will be

that's the way the universe works ...

[xultar]

33. How are they going to do a Nazi after JP 2? Makes no sense! n/t

[Mizmoon]

40. As I understand, he was in Hitler Youth

when he was a boy. To be fair, that is NOT the same as being an adult who decided to join the Nazi Party. I am aware that others disagree (to say the least).

[Teaser]

31. I'm so used to bad news

that I'm counting on it being Ratzinger. If it's not, I can only be pleasantly surprised.

[Matilda]

34. No, it doesn't bear thinking about.

I'm so nervous this time around - so much depends on it.

[Kellanved]

35. agreed

n/t

[Midlodemocrat]

38. I am more concerned about the name the Pope chooses.

If he chooses Leo for example, more social justice, etc. JP111, a continuation of the same old.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

[terrya]

41. I still think he'll choose John Paul III

[Midlodemocrat]

56. My opinion is that he won't.

JPII was so beloved by so many for so long, wouldn't you think that the new Pope would want to make his own mark on the world?

Just my $.02

[terrya]

67. My thinking is that they will want some continunity.

A sense of the Church continuing on the same path as JP II. A new pope, John Paul III, will embody that sense.

But that's just my .02

[Midlodemocrat]

72. You might be right.

I am hoping against hope that it is someone who will be more progressive and more dedicated to unity rather than divisiveness. JP11 was wonderful about social justice, but his record on women and gays was atrocious.

I am pretty sure he is getting an earful right about now from my mom the uber-liberal who was progressive way back in the day.

[HarveyBrooks]

65. My moneys on GeorgeRingo

[onenote]

92. I'd like it to be JohnFred

in memory of John Fred Gourrier, leader of John Fred & His Playboy Band, singer of "Judy in Disguise", who passed away on Friday. http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/04/16/johnfred.obit.ap/index.html

onenote

[Mizmoon]

51. "Innocent" or "Pious" is always nice

:P

[Midlodemocrat]

85. Especially after the debacle of Pius X11.

[Enraged_Ape]

69. It should be Pope Kevin

Other good choices:

Keith
Charlie
Nick
Clyde
Bob
Skip
Butch

[Midlodemocrat]

98. Well, hopefully, they won't choose

Pope Matcom, or Pope Underpants, or Pope Whoisalhedges.

[ronnykmarshall]

48. Amen!

He scares me. He does not have the warmth that John Paul II had.

[demo dutch]

116. IT IS!!

[demo dutch]

118. That's about the worst choice! You can't get more conservative

than that!

[TahitiNut]

178. Yep. Appalling choice,

:puke:

[Cicero]

28. The bells, the bells!!! (nt)

[xultar]

36. It won't be no BRUVA I can guarantee y'all that one. n/t

:cry:

[Nite Owl]

37. Wasn't this pretty fast?

Third vote, less than 24hrs since they started the conclave.

[Renew Deal]

42. I imagine the vote heavily favored 1 person from the beginning.

But I could be wrong.

[Midlodemocrat]

47. I think this was definitely one of the quickest votes.

Which worries me.

[terrya]

53. Which would mean Ratzinger

Since he was the favorite going into the conclave.

[Midlodemocrat]

Let's hope not.

I am hoping for someone from Africa. I think that would be so welcoming globally and so good for the Church.

[fishwax]

68. yeah, I'm afraid you're right

certainly seems most likely to me. i hope we're wrong.

[A HERETIC I AM]

43. New Pope being announced on the big 3 and CNN (Faux too) 12:06 EDT

Fox's tag on TV is "WE" have a new Pope" WE? Isnt it just the Catholics that have a new Pope?

On edit to say Damn, i'm slow! Hats off to the other quick fingered DU'ers!

[Liberal Veteran]

44. FOX is probably betting that Bush was their choice of pope.

:D

[renaissanceguy]

62. I thought they're betting that he's God.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14744291

[Midlodemocrat]

49. LOL. Yes it is.

Just the Catholics.

[leftchick]

50. thay all have religion on faux....

and even those nuts at the christian broadcasting "news" act like the pope is one of them. :crazy:

[Lucille]

54. Ha. That'll p*** off all the Bob Jones University-types

who believe the Pope is the anti-christ.

[spunky]

55. So are the TV people saying when it will be announced who he is?

I'm at work with no TV. . .

[Midlodemocrat]

57. About 1/2 hour or so.

I will post it when we know if that helps you.

(And I was going to go to Five Guys and get a cheeseburger. The best laid plans of mice and men)

[spunky]

64. That would be nice, although I can just keep an eye on the news websites.

Unfortunately they didn't bother to put in the articles when the announcement would be made. lol.

[Matilda]

70. Forty minutes they say.

He has to be formally asked and accept, then have his new robes
fitted, and choose a name. And I suppose he might pause and say
a little prayer!

[napi21]

61. They are expecting announcement in a few minutes.

A Cardinal will make the name announcement and then the new Pope will come out on the balcony.

[Matilda]

46. Another link

from the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/

[fertilizeonarbusto]

52. The new pope

is a CAT-Felix or Sylvester, probably...:-)

[CO Liberal]

58. CNN: White Smoke Indicates new Pope

Link to follow

[leftchick]

60. Link: White Smoke, Bells Signal Election of Pope

White Smoke, Bells Signal Election of Pope

4 minutes ago Europe - AP



VATICAN CITY - White smoke poured from a chimney at the Vatican and bells tolled on Tuesday evening, announcing to the world that a new pope was elected in the first papal conclave of the new millennium. Crowds in the square chanted: "Viva il Papa!" or "Long live the pope!"


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=518&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20050419/ap_on_re_eu/pope

[Bo]

63. ....do ya think he will be progresssive? lololololol

[patcox2]

71. At least he won't be simplistic.

The vatican doesn't run on the same liberal/conservative track youj are trying to force it into.

John Paul II, for example, when it came to social justice, war, and poverty, was as progressive as you can be.

When it came to sex, he was reactionary.

But its not so simple, and its not the same, as the black and white we use in american politics.

[Midlodemocrat]

75. I hope whoever has been chosen

is just as progressive in the social justice area as JP11, but I think the time has come for the church to enter the 21st century in dealings with gays and women.

[norml]

74. Washington Post Foreign Service: New Pope Has Been Chosen

New Pope Has Been Chosen

By Daniel Williams and Alan Cooperman
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday, April 19, 2005; 12:11 PM

VATICAN CITY, April 19 -- White smoke from the Sistine Chapel's chimney and the pealing of bells Tuesday signaled that the cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church have elected a new pope to succeed Pope John Paul II.

Thousands watched in St. Peter's Square and millions more waited around the world to hear the announcement of the new pontiff's identity.

The election of the new pope came on only the second day of voting by cardinals in a secret conclave.

Under the rules, the 115 voting cardinals chose the 265th pope with a two-thirds majority, or at least 77 voting in favor.



snip



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A942-2005Apr19.html

[fryguy]

76. White Smoke from Vatican: New Pope Selected

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/04/19/pope.tuesday/index.html

VATICAN CITY (CNN) -- White smoke rose from a Sistine Chapel chimney and bells rang Tuesday, signaling the selection of a new pope.

Thousands of people in St. Peter's Square clapped and waved flags as the smoke billowed over Vatican City

[InternalDialogue]

77. I think that's just an exit poll. n/t

[Brotherjohn]

87. Vatican at a loss to explain why exit poll (white) disagrees with...

... official tally (black).

A spokesman for the Bush administration who is in the Vatican observing the proceedings noted that what is seen as "white" can often actually be "black". He went on to say that what is seen as "war" can often actually be "freedom on the march" and what is seen as "a Kerry victory" is actually "a Bush mandate".

[Baclava]

78. We don't need a pope...

We have a King.

[Lerkfish]

79. so, will it be ratzinger, to complete the nazi world takeover?

ya got the Bushes, Scharzenegger, yadda yadda yadda...

everyone seems to have SOME sort of nazi connection.

sounds like a ludlum novel I read once...the aquitaine progression.

[Az_lefty]

82. I certainly hope not.

It could be worse. It could be ratzinger chosen tomorrow, Hitlers birthday.

[Tippy]

89. I really hope Ratzinger is not the pope

But will give hime the benefit of the doubt...just thinking of Hitlers birthday give me an uncomfortable chill

[DulceDecorum]

80. Chad,

how's it hanging?

[bluestateguy]

83. You have to give the Cardinals credit

For avoiding news leaks. It's amazing that all the news networks still don't know who the winner is.

[buzzard]

90. It just goes to show how well the shroud of secrecy works in the

Catholic Church.

[Renew Deal]

84. There's an American flag in that crowd.

Wow

[derby378]

86. Live Vatican Webcam

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7367404/?CM=SpatPopeObit&CE=NBCvideo

[wakeme2008]

88. BBC is calling it a new Pope.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4462077.stm

White smoke has been seen from the Sistine Chapel chimney indicating that a new pope has been elected.

The bells of St Peter's Basilica rang out shortly after 1800 local time (1600 GMT) to confirm the news.

There were jubilant scenes in St Peter's Square where many thousands of pilgrims had gathered.

..more at link

[emad]

91. BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4462077.stm

[Tippy]

93. There was a good size croud present when we first saw the smoke

But now it is a huge croud...wonder where they all came from and how they got in so quick

[Midlodemocrat]

95. According to ABC

people came running when they heard the bells.

[emad]

94. Will it be JP3????

Or Peter 2?

[gtar100]

96. Cathederal bells ringing non-stop in Denver

[Tippy]

99. We have no bell to ring here

We are builing a new Church and the Bell Tower went up last week but no bells yet

[ronnykmarshall]

106. They are anouncing now!

[Rich Hunt]

I'll bet

I'm sure they love this guy out there.

[dave29]

100. Yoda?

My darkhorse guess.

[QuettaKid]

104. nazi pope!!

NAZI NAZI NAZI!!!!

[bpilgrim]

The Vatican's Enforcer of the Faith

As a seminarian, he was briefly enrolled in the Hitler Youth in the early 1940s, though he was never a member of the Nazi party. In 1943 he was conscripted into an antiaircraft unit guarding a BMW plant outside Munich. Later Ratzinger was sent to Austria's border with Hungary to erect tank traps. After being shipped back to Bavaria, he deserted. When the war ended, he was an American prisoner of war.

Under Hitler, Ratzinger says he watched the Nazis twist and distort the truth. Their lies about Jews, about genetics, were more than academic exercises. People died by the millions because of them. The church's service to society, Ratzinger concluded, is to stand for absolute truths that function as boundary markers: Move about within these limits, but outside them lies disaster.

Later reflection on the Nazi experience also left Ratzinger with a conviction that theology must either bind itself to the church, with its creed and teaching authority, or it becomes the plaything of outside forces -- the state in a totalitarian system or secular culture in Western liberal democracies. In a widely noted 1986 lecture in Toronto, Ratzinger put it this way: "A church without theology impoverishes and blinds, while a churchless theology melts away into caprice." *

more...
http://ratzingerfanclub.com/Biography.html

peace

[Midlodemocrat]

101. It's Ratzinger

God help me.

[Rosco T.]

105. Nostradamus was right... n/m

[grytpype]

113. Here's the scene in St. Peter's Square

[SW FL Dem]

102. It's Ratzinger!

[Tippy]

103. Joseph Ratsinger is new pope

[Renew Deal]

That's interesting

[Az_lefty]

107. Oh my God, it's Ratzinger!!!

Benedict the 16th
:cry:

[ianrs]

108. we have an inquisitor - nice

n/t

[Matilda]

109. Ratzinger.

Oh, no.

[ronnykmarshall]

111. Shit!

[Midlodemocrat]

110. Pope Benedict the XVI

That is what his name is.

[Tippy]

120. Not sure if this is correct

But just heard Benedict the 15 had the shortest term of any Pope

[Donald Ian Rankin]

112. It's Ratzinger.

Or at least, so I've just heard.

[confludemocrat]

117. Last gasp of the old order

He's really old right? That's the silver lining here. Maybe another John Paul I.

When old men get behind closed doors to secretly make a decision, nothing good ever comes of it--lately anyway.

[Az_lefty]

114. Why couldn't they choose a Jesuit..

[Midlodemocrat]

115. One hopeful piece of news...

Benedict XV was pretty moderate. And Ratzinger is brilliant.

[demo dutch]

119. That's about the worst choice! You can't get more conservative

than that!!!

[norml]

121. Ratzinger New Pope

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&tab=wn&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&q=pope&btnG=Search+News

[toymachines]

122. Benedict the 16th

[Hell Hath No Fury]

123. Shit...

One more rightward step for the Vatican.

[Arkana]

124. And he's Pope Benedict XVI.

Damnation. Good thing I'm not a Catholic.

[mtnester]

125. Common Sense...out the door

[expatriot]

160. May God help the Catholics, may God Save us all! n/t

This guy is evil.... evil in his outlook and evil in his looks.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

126. Eh

He's old and will croak soon.
It's pretty embarrassing that his last job was head of what used to be...THE INQUISITION (WHAT A SHOW)/ THE INQUISITION (HERE WE GO)

[Teaser]

127. I knew it.

I fucking knew it. How did I know it? Because that's the way the world works.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

128. I found nothing about Ratz.

However, this comes as no major surprise. He was, certainly, running the church for a while now.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

153. Right

nothing new. He won't be Pope for long.

[displacedtexan]

179. RATZINGER, Joseph (1927-

RATZINGER, Joseph (1927-

Birth. April 16, 1927, Marktl, diocese of Passau, Germany. Besides his native German, he speaks English and Italian.

Education. Superior School of Philosophy, Freising; University of Münich, Münich (doctorate in theology).

Priesthood. Ordained, June 29, 1951, by Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber, archbishop of Münich und Freising. Further studies, 1951-1952. Faculty member, Superior School of Philosophy and Theology, Freising, 1952-1959; University of Bonn, 1959-1963; University of Münster, 1963-1969; University of Tübingen, 1966-1969; University of Ratisbon, 1969-1977; vice-president, University of Ratisbon, 1969-1977, expert, II Vatican Council, 1962-1965. Member, International Theological Commission, Vatican City, 1969-1977.

Episcopate. Elected archbishop of Münich und Freising, March 24, 1977. Consecrated, May 28, 1977, Münich, by Josef Stange, bishop of Würzburg.

Cardinalate. Created cardinal priest in the consistory of June 27, 1977; received the red biretta and the title of S. Maria Consolatrice al Tiburtino, June 27, 1977. Attended IV Ordinary Assembly of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, September 30-October 29, 1977. Participated in the conclave of August 25-26, 1978. Special papal envoy to 3rd National Marian Congress, Guayaquil, Ecuador, September 16-24, 1978. Participated in the conclave of October 14-16, 1978. Attended I Plenary Meeting of Sacred College of Cardinal, Vatican City, November 5-9, 1979; V Ordinary Assembly of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, September 26-October 25, 1980; relator general; member of general secretariat, 1980-1983. Prefect of S.C. for Doctrine of Faith, president of Pontifical Biblical Commission, and president of International Theological Commission, November 25, 1981. Resigned pastoral government of archdiocese, February 15, 1982. Attended VI Ordinary Assembly of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, September 29-October 28, 1983; president delegate; member of general secretariat, 1983-1986. Attended II Extraordinary Assembly of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, November 24-December 8, 1985; member of general secretariat until 1987. Attended VII Ordinary Assembly of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, October 1-30, 1987; member of general secretariat, 1987-1990. Attended VIII Ordinary Assembly of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, September 30-October 28, 1990; member of general secretariat, 1990-1994. Attended Special Assembly of World Synod of Bishops for Europe, Vatican City, November 28-December 14, 1991. Bishop of title of suburbicarian see of Velletri-Segni, April 5, 1993. Attended Special Assembly of World Synod of Bishops for Africa, Vatican City, April 10-May 8, 1994; IX Ordinary Assembly of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, October 2-29, 1994. Attended Special Assembly for America of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, November 16-December 12, 1997; Special Assembly for Asia of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, April 29-May 14, 1998. Vice-dean of College of Cardinals, November 9, 1998. Attended Special Assembly for Oceania of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, November 22-December 12, 1998. Special papal envoy to 12th centenary celebrations of creation of diocese of Paderborn, Germany, January 3, 1999. Attended II Special Assembly for Europe of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, October 1-23, 1999; X Ordinary Assembly of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, September 30-October 27, 2001. Special papal envoy to the jubilar celebrations in the diocese of Regensburg, Germany, October 6, 2002. Dean of the College of Cardinals and bishop of the title of the suburbicarian see of Ostia, added to Vellteri-Segni, November 30, 2002. Papal legate to the celebrations of the 750th anniversary of the canonization of St. Stanislaus, bishop and martyr, Kraków, Poland, May 11, 2003.

Bibliography. Allen, John L. Cardinal Ratzinger : the Vatican's enforcer of the faith. New York : Continuum, 2000; Ratzinger, Joseph. Milestones. Memoirs: 1927-1977. San Francisco: Ignatius Press, 1998.

[sniffa]

129. aL gore's endorsement made the difference

[underpants]

131. DAMN! I was hoping Kucinich could pull this one out

:grr:

[xyboymil]

130. An ULTRA conservative..watch the young catholics leave in droves.

*GAG*

[havocmom]

158. At his age, is he really an interim Pope?

Will Church politics be rough and tumble for a while now as they jockey for who will be the next long term leader?

[Pirate Smile]

132. He is 78 years old

[bluestateguy]

133. Well I'm not thrilled, but I'll give the guy a chance

He deserves a honeymoon. We'll re-evaluate after the first Hundred Days.

[derby378]

134. Ratzinger is the new Pope

Just announced...

[underpants]

136. DAMN! I was hoping Kucinich could pull this one out

:grr:

[Rose Siding]

145. ROFL

:rofl:

[deutsey]

137. He's 78?

I guess we'll be doing all this again soon...

:eyes:

[Dhalgren]

138. Heaven help us, literally...

[ReadTomPaine]

159. Doesn't this mean that god already considered and rejected the request?

I mean, if one is inclined to think along those lines... ;)

RTP

[420inTN]

139. Dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1405717

[dhinojosa]

140. Pope Panzer SS?

Wow.

[Emops]

156. I KNOW that he was forced into it and never endorsed it,

but did the Vatican have to choose someone that was in Hitler Youth?

[derby378]

141. Pope Benedict XVI

It's Joseph Ratzinger of Germany. Opus Dei member.

[Spazito]

135. That's bad news for the church, imo

It will continue to lose priests and the church will continue to lose congregants due to Ratzinger's extreme views.

[TygrBright]

142. Oh, man.... they (Catholics) are SOOooooo....

.......f*cked.

My profoundest sympathies to all Catholics. Our prayers are with you, that your Church may survive neo-Medievalism, however long it may last.

sympathetically,
Bright

(ed. for spelling)

[eagler]

164. Taking the name of Benedict implies extreme conservatism-

The original Benedict authored 'the Rule' which included the Opus Dei.

[Midlodemocrat]

168. But Pope Benedict XV was pretty moderate.

Maybe a hopeful sign?

[BlueEyedSon]

143. The JEWISH one???

OY! (smacks head)

[supernova]

144. Ugh. God help my Catholic brothers and sisters

*sigh*

[ReadTomPaine]

146. My, but the forces of darkness do seem to be closing in these days.

[Pirate Smile]

147. That campaign speech in his last homily was a WINNER,

I guess. ugghh.

The only one I said I didn't want to get it.

[underpants]

148. First official announcement-Beckenbauer named Cardinal

BREAKING

[xyboymil]

157. My Second Announcement: Burn all the gays at the stack.

:eyes:

[lovuian]

149. Benedict a Templar name = FreeMason!!!

This is another notch in FreeMason's belt

[RetroLounge]

150. Pope Stalag 13?

:eyes:

RL

[Liberal Veteran]

151. Anglicans/Espicopalians cheer new pope decision.

No doubt their ranks will swell.

[Ravenseye]

152. This is the problem with the new voting rules

I heard that the conservatives were behind Ratzinger and that he had just over 50%. They knew that if they just held steady for 2 weeks it'd go to straight majority and they'd win.

After a few votes they probably just let it be known "Hey, look we're not changing. Ratzinger is going to be the new pope, you might as well vote for him now so we don't make people wait forever."

[Matilda]

171. Yes, that's what the commentators have been saying all along.

Bad, bad decision.

[CAMANY]

154. Holy shit

He looks sinister...

[Lex]

162. Yes. Yes he does. nt

[Mark E. Smith]

155. Ratzo

John Paul undone.

[paulk]

161. the worst choice they could have made

JP2's legacy

the destruction of the church will continue

[progressivebydesign]

163. He's considered a fundamentalist Catholic...

Guess there's no hope for condoms to save Africa from further AIDS devastation. More old white men running people's lives.

[Danmel]

165. Well I guess it's back to Jews fearing the Pope!

Man- I have to say just looking at him scares me! I don't know what to say!

[progressivebydesign]

166. Was he the guy with the Nazi issues?

I remember there was some talk of that.. and assumed it to be him.

[demo dutch]

169. Yep! It's about the worst choice ever shows you that they're

completely out of touch!
You can't get more conservative than yet!

[aneerkoinos]

167. Anti-pope!

I vote for Sinead O'Connor!

[Junkdrawer]

185. Benedict (Arnold) the 1st

Wonder if he'll cozy up to Berlusconi.. :shrug:

[Endangered Specie]

170. Does anyone know what name he has picked?

I bet it will be John Paul III, and if I get that right, I'll be 2 for 2.

[demo dutch]

172. Benedict the 16th

[Endangered Specie]

175. Thanks

:)

[RaRa]

173. He's old. How much impact is he really going to have? eom

[demo dutch]

177. Probably a lot he's SOOOOOO conversative a lot more than

JP

[renaissanceguy]

174. Action alert: Catholics, it's time to leave your church.

Why put up with this B.S. that will trickle down from the top? There are better churches out there, anyway.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14744291

[Rosco T.]

176. The predictions of St. Malachy O'Morgair, Archbishop of Armagh, Ireland

c. 1139

"The next Pope after John Paul II will take the name Pope Benedict XVI, in imitation of Saint Benedict and also of Pope Benedict XV. Just as Pope Benedict XV was an emissary of peace, so will Pope Benedict XVI be an emissary of peace. Just as Pope Benedict XV sought peace and spoke of peace and wrote papal documents seeking peace, so will Pope Benedict XVI do also. Just as Pope Benedict XV failed to achieve peace in the world, so will Pope Benedict XVI fail to achieve peace in the world. Just as the Pontificate of Benedict XV began prior to World War I, so will the Pontificate of Benedict XVI occur prior to World War III. After the Pontificate of Benedict XVI, World War III will begin. The Arab nations will threaten and attack the United States; they will threaten, attack, invade and conquer Europe; they will threaten, attack, invade and conquer the northern part of Africa. It is God's will."

[demo dutch]

181. Gee that's nice!

[Midlodemocrat]

184. Well, that's cheerful.

[mimitabby]

180. Benedict XVI - ratzinger

[MaineDem]

183. I'm not thrilled with this choice

But I'm a woman and have no say anyhow.

Let's hope he can do something to bring me, and many like me, back to the Church we grew up in. I hope he's another John XXIII.

[Renew Deal]

186. Wikipedia on Pope Benedict 15

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XV

[Rose Siding]

187. Link to updated thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1405844