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Fri Apr-22-05 04:47 PM
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Today Sponge contraceptive approved by FDA (Yay!) |
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http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/national/11463325.htmThe Food and Drug Administration on Friday approved U.S. sales of the Today Sponge, which was the favorite nonprescription birth control product of women when it was withdrawn from the market in 1995.
"The product was found to be safe and effective," FDA spokeswoman Susan Cruzan said.
The polyurethane sponges, which have been sold by manufacturer Allendale Pharmaceuticals in Canada and over the Internet since March 2003, will be available in the U.S. in two months through a company Web site and in four months at retail drug stores, followed by discount stores such as Wal-Mart, Allendale said.
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Fri Apr-22-05 04:49 PM
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Sat Apr-23-05 05:57 AM
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51. The spounge is the near prefect means of birth control |
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It is cheap, can be gotten at any grocer or pharmacy. It is good for 24 hours (or was when it was availble way back when). A woman could put one in and then not worry about her night. I am glad it is coming back.
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Sat Apr-23-05 07:56 AM
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that was my first thought too! :)
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Fri Apr-22-05 04:50 PM
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2. Today Sponge,Tomorrow spongebob. |
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Fri Apr-22-05 04:51 PM
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3. "Elaine" will be pleased. |
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Wonder if any pharmacists will pitch a fit about OTC sales of the sponge.
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Fri Apr-22-05 04:54 PM
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even barrier methods are verboten to catholics.
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Sat Apr-23-05 05:46 AM
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47. My Catholic doctor prescribed birth control pills for me back in 1966, |
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a couple of months before my wedding. He never hesitated a bit and explained all about how long I needed to be taking the pill before trusting it to prevent conception. It was treated as routine, just as the salesclerk in the bridal salon advised me that if I was planning to take the pill, I needed to be "on" it for at least a month before having my wedding gown fitted.
YMMV, but in my experience and from what I've heard over several decades from other women, including nurses, Catholic doctors rarely refuse to prescribe contraceptives for women who request them. Those who do refuse can refer the patient to a colleague who will write the prescription, which, in cases I've heard of, just meant walking across the hall, not having to make an appointment to see another doctor.
And I've never heard of any pharmacist, Catholic or otherwise, refusing to sell barrier contraceptives. Besides, they're stocked on the shelves, not with the drugs.
Performing abortions or dispensing drugs that are intended to induce abortion are very different matters from prescribing/dispensing contraceptives and many Catholics and others refuse to be involved in abortions for reasons of conscience.
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Fri Apr-22-05 04:56 PM
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9. They shouldn't. Roman women used the sponge |
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which explains why there were so many Caesars. I want to see the numbers on this "effective" claim.
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:00 PM
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12. It is not JUST a sponge. |
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It is a spermicide-carrier.
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:03 PM
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13. From the Maker's Website |
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Edited on Fri Apr-22-05 05:05 PM by Crisco
http://www.todaysponge.com/faq/effectiveness.htm"The Today Sponge is 89-91% effective when used consistently and correctly." According to Planned Parenthood (only listing barrier methods, here) condom - 85% female condom - 79% diaphram - 84-94% cervical cap - 84-91%
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:07 PM
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14. i remember that episode! |
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she tried to buy up as many as she could get her hands on! funny!
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Fri Apr-22-05 10:55 PM
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42. And I remember feeling "left out" because I didn't know... |
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what all the hooha was about, but after reading some of these posts, I'll pass!
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Fri Apr-22-05 06:18 PM
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31. They'd have to be morally opposed to condoms too... |
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I'm there are some Pharmacist Fundies out there who are.
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Fri Apr-22-05 10:51 PM
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41. Yup. Funny, I haven't heard of any outcry about... |
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the Big V, Cialis, Levitra, etc. Woodies off and on (up and down?) for up to 36 hours and women can't protect themselves?!
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Fri Apr-22-05 04:52 PM
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4. Sponges on par with diaphragms |
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Messy and gross. You have to leave them in for a certain number of hours. I can remember decades ago going to work in the morning with a diaphragm in and having to take it out in the ladies room. GROSS, GROSS, GROSS. At least with condoms, the guy can take it off immediately.
Sounds too much like we are going BACKWARDS in time.
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Fri Apr-22-05 04:54 PM
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I guess it's just a matter of perspective.
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Fri Apr-22-05 11:54 PM
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44. Only if you're doing it correctly... |
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Eh, what do *I* know? Damn things could grow on trees like fucking mulberries and I STILL wouldn't be considered "Spongeworthy"
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Fri Apr-22-05 04:56 PM
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8. Beats changing diapers |
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Fri Apr-22-05 09:21 PM
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37. Well now that puts it in perspective! |
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Sat Apr-23-05 05:51 AM
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49. Very true! Especially if you weren't in the mood for a new baby. |
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:17 PM
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18. The sponge is NASTY - |
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- and I know because I used it very briefly when they first came out.
You have to put it in and KEEP it in after sex. You have to keep it in at least overnight - maybe as long as 24 hours - I don't remember exactly how long as that was obviously years ago.
What happens is that it is a SPONGE (duh!) and it soaks up all those good "juices" and combined bodily fluids and they just sit there, cooking inside your body. By about hour 6 the sponge begins to SMELL REALLY BAD. It's not a smell you can hide. No amount of spray would kill it. And then you begin to ITCH . . . I could not WAIT to get that blasted thing out!
You are right - it's a step BACKWARDS!!!
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:23 PM
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21. And after all that you STILL have a 1 in 10 chance of conception!!! |
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If Medical Science can perform surgery on unborn babies in the womb, it seems to me they ought to be able to come up with a contraceptive that works.
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:31 PM
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24. the rates for barriers aren't perfect, but they are ok... |
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It's good to use 2 forms of contras, eitherway.
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Fri Apr-22-05 06:35 PM
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33. And certainly better than nothing at all. |
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Sat Apr-23-05 05:54 AM
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50. Really true. I've known a lot of women who got pregnant on the pill |
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or with a properly installed IUD.
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:34 PM
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25. I loved it (was it 20 yrs ago?) |
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You could put it in well in advance----I think you left it in place for 6 hours.
The problems you describe sound like you were sensitive to the spermicide and /or that this didn't "work" with your vaginal flora.
I do recall that women either loved or hated the sponge. I understood "Elaine's" pain.
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Fri Apr-22-05 09:05 PM
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36. equal opportunity discomfort! |
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We used the sponge once too... briefly. Not only was it a pain for her, but it hurt like hell everytime I took a pee for hours after conjugal bliss. We were so happy to find better alternatives, although I suppose in a pinch....
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Sat Apr-23-05 12:32 AM
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46. I didn't have any problem with a bad smell. |
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Fri Apr-22-05 06:05 PM
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30. You have to leave them in six hours. |
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After the last "encounter."
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Fri Apr-22-05 09:59 PM
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38. I loved the sponge. no hormones |
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and if you know your partner is HIV negative then it's always more fund to lose the plastic barrier.
I used to use the sponge all the time, but my partner didn't like it. He said it "burned", I guess he meant the spermicide or whatever. (Is that the real reason they pulled it, potential injury to the phallus?)
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Fri Apr-22-05 11:32 PM
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As I recall, I could put the sponge in almost immediately before intercourse. Then again, it's been a while ;)
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Sat Apr-23-05 12:28 AM
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45. You aren't REQUIRED to take them out after 8 hours |
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Why take them out in the ladies' room? You can leave the sponges in for up to 24 hours. And they're good to go without repeat applications for that time.
My 2 cents--I loved the sponges. I too went around buying up all I could find when they went out of business. I didn't want to use the pill when I was nursing, and these were the best option. They're really not that messy--not nearly as bad as diaphragms. And, unlike diaphgragsm, they never gave me urinary tract infections.
Most important, this gives women another option (which I suspect is the main reason the FDA fought them tooth and nail for as long as they did). They can be bought w/out an RX, so women don't have to ask "permission" from a doctor (face it, in a sense that's what you're doing when you get an RX) to have protected sex.
Main problem--no protection against STDs.
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Fri Apr-22-05 04:53 PM
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5. Next Up: Tomorrow's Handi-Wipe |
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:00 PM
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10. Wonder if they'll make a Spongebob version |
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uh oooh.....here come the "new"cons....take cover.
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:12 PM
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15. Eeeek! Spermicide! Say no more, squire...say no more! |
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EVERY SPERM IS SACRED (Michael Palin & Terry Jones) from Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life"
There are Jews in the world, There are Buddhists, There are Hindus and Mormons and then, There are those that follow Mohammed, But I've never been one of them...
I'm a Roman Catholic, And have been since before I was born, And the one thing they say about Catholics, Is they'll take you as soon as you're warm...
You don't have to be a six-footer, You don't have to have a great brain, You don't have to have any clothes on - You're a Catholic the minute Dad came...
Because...
Every sperm is sacred, Every sperm is great, If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.
Children: Every sperm is sacred, Every sperm is great, If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.
Child: Let the heathen spill theirs, On the dusty ground, God shall make them pay for, Each sperm that can't be found.
Children: Every sperm is wanted, Every sperm is good, Every sperm is needed, In your neighbourhood...http://www.montypythonpages.com/index1.htm
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when I was a kid I knew of a Catholic family in the Church that had 21 kids (and I kid you not!)
I mean, this poor woman was pregnant 21 times!!!
And they expect people to do this??? Could you imagine what more of a mess the world would be?
NO THANKS!
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:47 PM
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29. OMG! My (Catholic) folks only had five kids. |
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I'm pretty sure they were gaming the system though. :evilgrin:
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Fri Apr-22-05 10:43 PM
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40. It produces a lot of low-income kids who will work cheap |
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and military personnel to fight imperialistic wars.
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Sat Apr-23-05 06:00 AM
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52. That's, ahem, a bit much but some people love having 10-12 kids. |
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Almost no one does anymore, most Catholics use contraception, but there's a couple in my parish with ten kids and they're obviously a really happy family, plus she has a great figure and lots of energy.
AMAZING!!!
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Sat Apr-23-05 07:59 AM
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55. My Bubba had 14 children! |
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That would be my Father's Mother. My folks only had 7. :)
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:15 PM
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17. Good news. Damn sponges at it again! |
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:17 PM
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19. Why the hell did they ever take it OFF the market, |
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because it prevents having babies, or what?:sarcasm:
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:21 PM
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The original product owner was told to fix up their plant or go out of business. They chose to ditch the biz.
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:38 PM
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27. There was a possibility |
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Edited on Fri Apr-22-05 05:38 PM by DoYouEverWonder
that they caused toxic shock syndrome.
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:24 PM
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22. Oh great. One agency decides to give women a break. Then I bet |
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another agency will make it okay for pharmacists to remove them from the counters at Walgreens and Eckerds because they are "offended" by them.
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:37 PM
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26. They're OTC, so pharmacists can't touch 'em |
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If they own their own store, yeah, but not in a chain. Their retail and pharmacy sections are separate -- managers, etc.
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Fri Apr-22-05 08:37 PM
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34. They may be OTC, but in most pharmacies, even chain stores, the |
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pharmacist has a considerable amount of control over the OTC drugs... unless things have changed drastically in the fifteen years since I've worked in a pharmacy.
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Fri Apr-22-05 10:24 PM
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39. They'll probably try to change that so it won't |
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conflict or offend their "morality". I despise these people.
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Fri Apr-22-05 05:40 PM
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28. Why let the Canadian companies gain all the profits.......lol! |
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Edited on Fri Apr-22-05 05:42 PM by Dover
I'm sure those internet sales were swift when they removed this one from the market. And what was the real reason it was removed to begin with? They were really stalling.....but why? It's not because of the toxicity issue either.
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Sat Apr-23-05 07:55 AM
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53. I used it once. It gave me a yeast infection. |
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