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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:20 AM
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Pentagon releases 360 photos
http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2005/04/28pentagonrelease.html




Pentagon releases 360 photos
Images turned over a year after UD professor requests them
By VICTOR GRETO / The News Journal
04/28/2005DOVER -- Just a short jet trail from the air force base where it all started, Ralph Begleiter announced Wednesday that the Department of Defense released to him and the National Security Archive 360 additional photographs of soldiers' remains as they were returned to U.S. bases, from Dover to Hickam Air Force Base in Hawaii.

Some photos also are of burials at sea.

Begleiter, the 55-year-old former CNN reporter who is in his fifth year of teaching broadcast journalism at the University of Delaware, made the announcement while speaking to several dozen members of the Delaware Council for the Social Studies at its annual awards banquet at the Lobby House, near downtown.

Begleiter showed the teachers one "heartstopper" photo in the newly released batch, which showed a line of sailors from the USS Enterprise from May 19 of last year releasing a metal casket into the sea.

The photo, however, had been released previously, and can be seen on a Navy news Web site. To date, Begleiter has received 721 photographs from the Pentagon, 361 that were previously released. The newest batch of 360 are heavily edited and include at least one photograph of flag-covered coffins in a convoy of Humvees moving through an undisclosed war zone.


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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:26 AM
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1. So after two years of war
we are finally allowed to see sanitized images of our war dead.

They must be getting us ready to see more of this.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:26 AM
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2. I hope this guy posts them all on the web n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:04 AM
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3. The first one looks fake the second just weird
Why would they black out the faces of the sailors doing that?

Is there an actual reason?
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:15 AM
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4. Possibly, special operators.
Since it's Navy, it could be SEALs, Marine Recon corpsmen, etc., who generally avoid public ID. Of course, that's pure speculation.

Hi, SA Mike. :)

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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 04:15 PM
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5. kick to combine
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 04:15 PM
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6. Pentagon releases flag-draped coffin photos
April 28, 2005 | Washington -- The Pentagon, under pressure from open-government advocates, released hundreds of images Thursday of flag-draped coffins of American soldiers.

The Pentagon had previously refused to release such images, which were taken by military photographers. Nor has it allowed the news media to photograph ceremonies of soldiers' coffins arriving in the United States, saying it is enforcing a policy installed in 1991 to respect the privacy of families of dead soldiers.

Some critics have contended the government is trying to hide the human cost of the war.

More at http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2005/04/28/pentagon/index.html


It's about time that Americans can see these images. They were important in turning the tide against Vietnam, and are just as important today.
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 04:40 PM
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7. This thread needs more cowbell
Never question Bruce Dickinson!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 04:48 PM
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8. All the blacked-out faces is,...strange,...almost giving the events,...
,...a totally less-than-human appearance. Why did they do that? :shrug: I don't buy any "national security" BS. Why did they do that?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 04:53 PM
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9. Burial at sea?
Wonder how many they've buried that way? Do that do that if the person has family back in the US? I didn't know they still did that.

They don't get to be buried in Arlington?

Is the bottom of the Persian Gulf littered with Aluminum coffins?

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 04:22 AM
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10. Good Question. LINK to the Photos....
Many more powerful photos at the link. RIP ... :(


http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB152/index.htm



The casket bearing the body of US Navy Machinist's Mate Third Class Nathan Taylor goes over the edge of the USS Enterprise during a Burial at Sea ceremony.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:38 AM
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11. kick to combine
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:39 AM
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12. Pentagon Shows Flag-Draped Coffin Photos
The Pentagon, under pressure from open-government advocates, released hundreds of images Thursday of flag-draped coffins of American soldiers.

The Pentagon had previously refused to release such images, which were taken by military photographers. Nor has it allowed the news media to photograph ceremonies of soldiers' coffins arriving in the United States, saying it is enforcing a policy installed in 1991 to respect the privacy of families of dead soldiers.




http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050429/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/war_coffin_photos&printer=1
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:43 AM
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13. Its what brought the Vietnam war to a halt is people
seeing the body bags and the pictures of killing!!!

The army has learned keep the war out of the publics focus!!!
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