60 Years Later, China Enemies End Their War

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OMG!!

The leaders of China's Communist Party and of Taiwan's opposition Nationalist Party, the two sides that fought China's civil war, formally ended six decades of hostility on Friday with a nationally televised handshake and pledged to work together to undermine Taiwan's independence movement.

During an elaborate ceremony at the Great Hall of the People, broadcast in China and Taiwan, Hu Jintao, the Chinese Communist leader, hailed a weeklong visit to the mainland from Taiwan by Lien Chan, the Nationalist leader, as a historic reconciliation. The Nationalists, who fled to the island in 1949 after losing the civil war, ruled Taiwan until 2000 and still control its legislature.

The meeting is the first between the leaders of the two parties in 60 years; the last was in the wartime redoubt of Chongqing, when Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong made a final, failed bid to reach a cease-fire.

Both sides pointedly used the trip to try to isolate Taiwan's president, Chen Shui-bian, who has twice won election on a platform leaning toward independence. He now faces an unusual alliance between the opposition party and China's Communist leadership, which the Taiwan government still calls the enemy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/30/international/asia/30taiwan.html

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1. Not exactly true "leaning toward independence". It was to remove the

bastard corrupt KMT first and foremost. How can reporters write this stuff without even knowing?

Formosa was invaded by the murderous defeated KMT bastards. If they didn't flee the Communists would have murdered all of the KMT. The independent island of Formosa was the nearest place the KMT could run too. Taking over Formosa, the KMT murdered most all leaders, teachers, doctors, scientists, police chiefs... Chang 'Fucking Pimp Feces Whore" Kai Shek then renamed the island to Taiwan and claimed Taiwan was China.

It's amazing was dirty bastard American and foreign press have lead the world to believe. "Taiwan and China split in 1949". God help (or Satan help) all the immoral lying Media Whores.

Where are America's Christians who are supposed to "seek the truth"?

PS. I don't understand why
1. Taiwan doesn't extradite the KMT to the World Court for Crimes Against Humanity.
2. Why don't the Chinese want to try the KMT?

I bet the KMT murdered more and tortured more than the Japanese did. So why no big protest in China about the KMT coming home? Because the "people" protesting the Japanese were not people they were government agents and paid off students looking to rise in the Republican Party of China, ooops I mean the Communist Party of China.

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2. "Let's make a deal"

Did we call this one, or not?
:puke:

[dArKeR]

5. This wil really suck if awol, repukes, communist and World Media Whores

execute this plan as they did on Iraq.

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3. The Robert F. Kennedy of Asia, President Chen Shui Bian (Abian) and

would be a better President of the United States of America than aWol or even Clinton.

Abian ranked #1 in every class he took from the day he entered school. This isn't your normal school system. These kids were the best of the best in the world from grade school to university. Nothing like our D- aWol pResident who's daddy had to pay $20 mil. for a D- son to pass.

The Robert F. Kennedy of Asia, President Chen Shui Bian (Abian)
http://www.president.gov.tw (Taiwanese)
http://www.president.gov.tw/index_e.html (English)
http://www.scanews.com/collester/article3/article3.html

General History, Present and Future of Taiwan
http://www.taiwandc.org/tpetimes.htm


Generalissimo to be buried in Taiwan
LEGACY: The man who led the shattered remnants of the Chinese Nationalist Party's forces to Taiwan after their defeat by the Communists will be buried here after all
By Chang Yun-ping and Jimmy Chuang
STAFF REPORTERS
Friday, Jul 09, 2004,Page 1

The bodies of Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek (???) and his son and successor, former president Chiang Ching-kuo (???), which lie embalmed in temporary mausoleums in Taoyuan County, will finally be buried after Chiang's descendants asked the government to bury the bodies of the two presidents in a military cemetery in northern Taiwan.

Generalissimo Chiang fled to Taiwan in 1949 after losing the Civil War against the Chinese Community Party. Chiang died in 1975. The burial of Chiang and his son in Taiwan mark the Chiang family's recognition that the "Republic of China" military could never retake China.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/07/09/2003178228


The ‘New Taiwan Person’
Centuries ago, the island had an aboriginal culture of Malay and Polynesian descent. In the 17th century, the Dutch and Portuguese had colonies here, and the imported Chinese laborers — all men — intermarried with locals, forming the basis of the majority of today’s population. According this version of history, it was only in 1887 that China declared Taiwan a part of its territory in an effort to stem Japanese expansionism, say independence activists. But when that failed, China ceded Taiwan to Japan in perpetuity.
The Japanese held Taiwan for 50 years, until their defeat in World War II. In the years immediately after, Allied Forces backed Chiang Kai-shek’s temporary occupation of Taiwan. But according to pro-independence legal experts, the Nationalists never had a legal basis to stay.
“In 1949, Taiwan did not “split off from China”, but was occupied by the losing side in the Chinese Civil War,” according to a 1999 white paper endorsed by 18 overseas Taiwanese associations.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/316717.asp?cp1=1

Lee said that the people of Taiwan need to shrug off the mentality of being a "long-term laborer" after being ruled by the Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) for half a century, and take up the responsibility of being the master of their own country.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/02/09/2003098044

Liu Yan Chun grew up in Taiwan firmly believing that her family would someday go back to mainland China. It took most of her life to realize that there would be no triumphant return, as envisioned by the Nationalists when they retreated (Edit: this word should be INVADED Formosa which they renamed to Taiwan.) to Taiwan after defeat by the Chinese Communists in 1949. It took her longer still to realize that she had no desire to return.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/315530.asp

`One China' review under way
RE-EXAMINATION: An academic at the Heritage Foundation says the US is studying the longstanding policy with an eye to debunking the myth that Taiwan is part of China
By Charles Snyder
STAFF REPORTER IN WASHINGTON
Thursday, Jun 17, 2004,Page 1

The Bush administration is already conducting a secret review of its "one China" policy, although the review is fairly narrow and technical and will not necessarily result in a decision to support Taiwan's independence, a leading Washington Taiwan specialist says.

John Tkacik, an academic at the Heritage Foundation, told the Taipei Times that the review aims to debunk the myth that Taiwan is part of China and to clarify just what a "one China" policy means.

He was commenting on a report issued in Washington on Tuesday by the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission, which recommended that the Bush administration and Congress "conduct a fresh assessment of the `one China' policy, given the changing realities in China and Taiwan."

"I think the State Department is already reviewing the `one China' policy," Tkacik said.


http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/06/17/2003175359



KMT can go back to China

History is coming full circle ("KMT delegation travels to China for historic visit," March 28, page 2). The Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) can go home now. As far as the Taiwanese are concerned, China is the KMT's home, not Taiwan.

Some Taiwanese did favor going back to the "motherland" after World War II. However, they did not expect the murdering, corrupt, thieving, arrogant, self-appointed government that was the KMT regime. "The KMT does not support Taiwan independence" is a statement that masks the fact that the KMT does not support democracy. In fact, it does not support Taiwan.

Are KMT Chairman Lien Chan (??) and his KMT cronies so naive as to think they can talk the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) out of "non-peaceful means" to resolve the Taiwan issue? If that's the case, more power to them. More likely, they would rather disarm Taiwan to make it more convenient for the CCP to annex Taiwan by "non-peaceful means."

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2005/04/01/2003248717



Beijing's claims tied to war myth
Despite the opposition of Taiwan and the international community, China passed an "Anti-Secession" Law, attempting to realize its ambition to invade Taiwan through legal means. The purpose of the legislation is to continue the Chinese civil war and provide a legislative endorsement for a war launched by the executive.

China has no documentary evidence to prove its sovereignty over Taiwan. Its claim is based on its Constitution or the Anti-Secession Law -- which states in Article 2 that, "There is only one China in the world. Both the mainland and Taiwan belong to one China." Such a unilateral claim does not make Taiwan part of its territory. This is just like Beijing's demand for its allies to acknowledge that Taiwan is part of China when they establish diplomatic ties. It is not legally binding and is merely an exchange of political opinions.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2005/04/12/2003250165
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Jackie 'Whore' Chan is a Communist Puppet!
Senior DPP figure gets in a tangle over Jackie Chan
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/04/23/2003137723




Jackie Chan Rips Taiwan's Election

TAIPEI, Taiwan - Hong Kong film star Jackie Chan (news) said Sunday that Taiwan's recent presidential election was "the biggest joke in the world."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040329/ap_en_mo/people_j ...

I'm putting the WORLD on notice. This is how Fascism, Communism, Brutal Regimes, Nazis, Hitlers rise. The use of immoral instruments masquerading as moral/just people. Chan, speaking from Communist China and bashing Democracy! This is as laughable as Trent Lott saying aWol got more votes. Jackie 'Whore' didn't mention that there are no elections in China but its obviously the most corrupt and murderous regime on the planet. Where government officials falsely convict citizens, execute them and sell their body parts for cash.

Honk Kong has no ability to vote for its leader either. And the Communists are trying daily to take away ALL rights of Hong Kong citizens.

I was in Hong Kong when the first Chinese astronaut went on tour in Hong Kong. Who was there as the Communist mouth piece? Jackie 'Whore'. Not only did I read in the Hong Kong newspapers, I spoke to many Hong Kong citizens questioning why Jackie 'Whore' was playing the puppet for the Communists. So many people felt this way, Jackie 'Whore' went on a TV 'attack dog tour' (like Condi Lice is doing now), to try to salvage his reputation. He just kept saying, 'We are all Chinese that's why I do it.'

Everyone I spoke to, and also saw personally on HK TV interviews of people standing in line, (The space capsule was put on display at the Space Center next to Kowloon Star Ferry), the Hong Kong people said, 'I don't care about seeing Yang Liwei, astronaunt, I only want to see the space capsule.'

Most all HK people were really pissed at Jackie 'Whore' for his actions. Many said he's a traitor.


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You've got to look at this honestly people! Everyone stop and look what's go-in down! There isn't an official/knowledgable person in the world who'd say Taiwan's election procedures aren't the fairest in the world.

The people protesting, in Taiwan, are all the Fascists Mainland Chinese who invaded Taiwan in 1949. They are about the most corrupt group on Earth, have been stealing money from Taiwan since 1949 but now no longer have an easy method to steal.

The KMT Party is the richest political party in the world. How did they get this money?

Assassination attempt. Is Jackie 'Whore' willing to take a bullet in the stomach while riding in a Jeep? The investigation is on going but Jackie 'Whore' knows what happened?

You can read just about anywhere the near certainty of ALL Hong Kong media stars being part of the Hong Kong Mafia. Which I would assume has now been taken over by the Communist Chinese Government.

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ps. I'll never watch a Jackie 'Whore' movie again!


The book that built the Lien family.
Just when the family assets of Lien Chen-tung and his son Lien Chan became a hot election campaign issue, a dissertation written by academic Lin Yuan-huei.

The 30,000-character paper tells the reader that, during the era of Japanese occupation, both Lien Heng and Lien Chen-tung worked for a pro-Japanese newspaper. It also tells how Lien Heng eulogized the colonizers in poems.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2004/02/06/2003097679



"Since last year, the pan-blue camp has carried out numerous campaign activities in China, all in violation of Chinese law. However, not only did the Chinese government fail to put a stop to these activities, instead it allowed and even supported their activities," said DPP campaign headquarters spokesman Wu Nai-jen (???).
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/02/10/2003098164



More than 60 percent of Taiwan's people believe China's authorities are hostile to the country's government while over 40 percent consider the hostility targeted at Taiwan's population, the Mainland Affairs Council said yesterday after reviewing 80 polls conducted on cross-strait relations last year.
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/02/10/1076377991.htm



"It is an embezzlement case with top KMT officials involved. Whoever can control the project has to be someone with a minister status or higher. We should find out who made the decisions back then," Chang said.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/02/13/2003098519



Taiwan's Chen Defends Move on Referendum
(Los Angeles Times - free register)
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-chen8feb08,1,5010944.story?coll=la-headlines-world



007 James Bond - Sean Connery says President Chen is his hero!
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2003/11/06/2003074804



First lady's European tour seen as diplomatic success
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/07/24/1059010376.htm



Assassination Attempt
Chen's wife, you know, was at a time an even more strident crusader than he was for the rights of the Taiwanese and the DPP. In 1985 she was rammed over three times by a truck and was crippled, and the driver was never found despite the fact that there were witnesses. Most Taiwanese believe _ that it was a botched KMT assassination attempt. And Chen has to go home every night and see her sitting in a wheelchair because of it. It's not an easy thing to shake.
http://www.time.com/time/asia/marketqa/2000/03/20 /



Accident or assassination attempt?

One account claims the driver, described in press reports at the time as a "simple peasant with a steady job and a fixed residence, Chang Jung-tsai" was driving an "illegally assembled truck" down the narrow street where Mrs. Chen was standing.

Witnesses said Chang purposefully hit Mrs. Chen. They insisted that the driver reportedly exclaimed "Oh, she's not dead yet" before backing up and running over her again to ensure maximum injury if not death.
http://www.chinaonline.com/refer/biographies/secure/chenshuibian.asp



From poverty to power: Chen Shui-bian's rise to the presidency
http://www.chinaonline.com/refer/biographies/secure/chenshuibian.asp



(Ex President) Lee says pro-unification forces to blame for SARS outbreak
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/05/19/1053309473.htm



Ex-KMT mayor gets 7-year sentence
(He should be forced to pay back the money he stole OR buy every person in Taiwan a kayak!)
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/21/1074621047.htm



Young voters supportive of Chen, poll says
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/21/1074620716.htm



Chen gains 55% approval rating, survey shows
(The come back kid!)
(Someone send me an Abian doll!)
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/21/1074620504.htm


Taiwan's Chen Defends Move on Referendum
Calling Taiwan a free and sovereign country, President Chen Shui-bian defended his decision to call a referendum on relations with mainland China and rejected international concerns that the move was a provocation that endangered the uneasy peace in the Taiwan Strait.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-chen8feb08,1,5010944.story?coll=la-headlines-world

http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/02/09/1076292171.htm





DPP decries Soong's proposal
(Soong and Lien are mainland pigs.)
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/06/15/2003055308



The TSU regards Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan (??) and People First Party Chairman James Soong (???), both born in China, as "aliens."

(Wow, I didn't know they were born in China. This brings up very very very serious legal issues! Lien and Soong should NOT be issued Taiwan Passports because they were born in China. They should be issued Communist China Passports! If they are not eligible for Taiwan Passports then they are NOT Taiwan Citizens. If they are NOT Taiwan Citizens how can they hold political office in Taiwan? How, who issued them Taiwan passports and Taiwan IDs? I read many stories were a foreigner has a baby in Taiwan but the previous Gou Ming Dong government kicked them out of Taiwan. Even Taiwanese who married a foreigner, the foreigner could NOT stay in Taiwan as a citizen. So how can the Taiwan law be so strict on citizenship but allow Lien and Soong to maintain Taiwan Citizenship?)
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/01/29/2003096618



Ma's democratic credentials queried.
Ma, Guo Ming Dong's (KMT) Pig Puppet Mayor
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2004/01/29/2003096609



DPP says KMT should apologize for buying votes
(Apologize? Put the scum in jail!)
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/11/23/2003076933




KMT (Pig) rebel blasts party's voting order
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/06/02/2003053622



Recent poll shows satisfication with government, Chen
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/05/17/1053136494.htm



Former hospital chief under fire (SARS spreader)
Wu was the superintendent of Taipei Municipal Jen Ai when President Chen Shui-bian was Taipei mayor, but he was fired over allegations of corruption in an equipment purchase scandal.

When Ma Ying-jeou (KMT Pig) was elected mayor, he invited Wu back and made him the superintendent of Hoping.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/05/13/205762



Premier's performance satisfies public, poll says
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/08/01/2003061799



Chirac sold out to PRC for commerce, says Lu Taiwan VP
Vice President Annette Lu (???) declared that French President Jacques Chirac had "sold out the national character and spirit of France" by opposing Taiwan's planned peace referendum Monday during a visit to Paris by People's Republic of China State Chairman Hu Jintao (???).
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/29/1075343350.htm



Billions Embezzled In China (Like Communist Chinese like KMT. What’s the difference between a Communist Chinese and a Guo Ming Dong Chinese? Answer:Nothing)
Audits aimed at ferreting out corruption in China uncovered $8 billion in misused or embezzled funds and widespread irregularities that produced "serious losses" of state assets, the government said Friday.

Auditors investigated 130,000 state businesses and offices last year as part of the communist leadership's campaign against the pervasive graft that has soured public faith in the government.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/30/world/main596944.shtml



Protest staged over KMT assets
Forging ahead with a campaign to exert pressure on the Kuomintang to return swathes of its financial and property holdings to the state, local activists yesterday staged a protest in front of the former ruling party's headquarters demanding it hand over allegedly 'ill-gotten' assets.

Members of the Alliance to Campaign for Rectifying the Name of Taiwan brandishing leaflets entitled 'Returning KMT Party Assets' yesterday morning converged on the Chinese Nationalist Party headquarters, downtown Taipei and called on KMT Chairman Lien Chan (??) along with other party staff to vacate the building.
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2004/01/29/1075343998.htm



Taiwan's democracy has need of America
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2004/01/29/2003096653
Chinese army preparing large-scale military exercises aimed at Taiwan
BEIJING, (AFP) - China is gearing-up for large-scale military wargames aimed at "taking control of the Taiwan Strait", with 18,000 troops and the amphibious landing of a tank brigade.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040601/photos_ts_wl_afp/040601073707_3wk987jc_photo0
AFP/File Photo




The exercises were to take place in June and July on Dongshan Island in southeastern Fujian province just 150 nautical miles west of Taiwan's Penghu Island, the New Express Daily said, citing a pro-Beijing Hong Kong newspaper.

China has become increasingly agitated with independence-leaning Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian, and the report referred to the exercises as the first-ever aimed at "striving to control the Taiwan Strait."

The 18,000 soldiers will be deployed from the land, navy and air force of the Nanjing Military Region, where some 500 short-range ballistic missiles are pointed at Taiwan.

"Sukoi Su-27 fighter jets will be outfitted with KN59M guided air-to-surface missiles in an effort to maintain control over the Taiwan Strait and ensure that tank brigades can make a landing and engage in warfare," the report said.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1503&ncid=2069&e=1&u=/afp/20040601/ts_afp/china_taiwan


KMT youth urge Lien to spare them any favors



By Huang Tai-lin
STAFF REPORTER
Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004,Page 1

Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan (??) is too much of an embarrassment for many younger members of his party, who say they would rather not be associated with the three-time election loser.

"How can you embark on a `thanksgiving and unity tour' when you don't work to unite party headquarters first?" said Chiu Teh-hung (???), organizer of a group of young party members calling itself the "Blue Eagle Warriors" (????).

KMT spokesman Alex Tsai (???) announced on Monday that Lien, 68, was planning a tour of central and southern Taiwan this month to thank supporters and drum up support for KMT candidates in the year-end legislative elections.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/06/02/2003157897



Taiwanese VP asks world support against possible attack by China



SAN JOSE (AFP) - Taiwanese Vice President Lu Hsiu-lien asked for international support for her island against a possible attack from mainland China, saying Beijing posed an "imminent danger" to Taiwan.

"Taiwan has been fighting alone for 50 years to protect itself against this possible invasion," she told a press conference on the second day of an official visit to Costa Rica, part of a three-country Central American tour.

"Today," she said, "we need the world to give us a hand so that this threat does not become reality."

Lu Hsiu-lien said China has been expanding its military power and at the moment it has along its eastern coast "more than 600 missiles aimed at Taiwan," a number she said could be increased to 800 to 1,000 next year.

The missiles, she said, pose an "imminent danger," not only to Taiwan, but to "the entire Asia-Pacific region."

China "puts on an outwardly peaceful mask" but in reality "is developing massive power in many areas," said the Taiwanese vice president.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1530&ncid=2069&e=1&u=/...









KMT must return its media to the public
The Campaign for Media Reform is a local media monitoring group

Monday, Jun 07, 2004,Page 8

Advertising
The media have reported that the Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) intends to sell all its media businesses as a single package for about NT$8 billion.

These media businesses include Chinese Television Company, Ltd (CTV), Broadcasting Corporation of China, the Central Daily News and the Central Motion Pictures Corporation.

Private enterprises such as Eastern Multimedia Corp and Chinatrust Group have shown their interest in the deal.

As a media reform group, Campaign for Media Reform is strongly disappointed with the KMT's handling of its party-run media businesses.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2004/06/07/2003174131





What is China's beef with Chen?
By Sushil Seth

Thursday, Jun 10, 2004,Page 8
Why is China so angry with President Chen Shui-bian (???)? Because he is not delivering Taiwan on a platter. Otherwise he appears quite reasonable, even from a Chinese viewpoint. For instance, in his recent inauguration address he scrupulously avoided the question of independence for Taiwan. He simply sought Beijing's cooperation "to guarantee there will be no unilateral change to the status quo in the Taiwan Strait." Indeed, he hasn't ruled out "any possibility, so long as there is the consent of the 23 million people of Taiwan."

For all his efforts at moderation, Beijing has branded his "provocative pro-independence activities the biggest threat to peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait." It has declared that "we will absolutely not tolerate Taiwan's independence" and would crush it "at any cost."

The sub-text of this harsh message is that Beijing doesn't trust Chen, no matter what he says. They also feel frustrated at the lack of credible political alternatives in Taiwan to advance China's unification goal. Indeed, Chen has consolidated his position by polling about 11 percent more votes than in 2000.


http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2004/06/10/2003174509



Pan-blues losing support, poll says
CHANGING ATTITUDES: The post-election antics of the opposition parties have cost them dearly, according to a poll conducted by the think tank Taiwan Advocates
By Chang Yun-ping
STAFF REPORTER
Friday, Jun 11, 2004,Page 1

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The two-month-long protest and resistance against the legitimacy of President Chen Shui-bian's (???) re-election by the pan-blue alliance has resulted in the loss of public support, which would lead to a marked defeat of Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan (??) by Chen should the presidential election be held now, a public opinion survey released by Taiwan Advocates (???) said yesterday.

The think tank yesterday held a press conference to release the results of a public opinion poll investigating the public's attitudes toward the two-month long protest by the KMT and People First Party (PFP).

Its findings showed that the disapproval rate of the pan-blues' protests has increased to 67.8 percent from 53 percent.

The poll also found that if the election were held today, 60 percent of the public would vote for the Democratic Progressive Party-backed presidential ticket of Chen and Vice President Annette Lu (???), while 40 percent of the voters would support the KMT-PFP alliance's Lien-James Soong (???) ticket.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/06/11/2003174569



China's a dying tiger, to be feared in decline
Jin Zhong??

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004,Page 8

When Hong Kong residents rallied to commemorate the fifteenth anniversary of the bloody Tiananmen Square crackdown, they mourned with a question in mind: Why did 1989's wave of democratization help end communist rule in Russia and across Eastern Europe, when at Tiananmen it heralded a rollback of people's rights that has lasted 15 years since then?

Princeton University professor Yu Ying-shih (???) once remarked on China's future with the saying "a dying tiger is the most ferocious." The 3,000-year-old tiger of China's feudalism devoured many, but the tiger of China's communist tyranny is even more bloodthirsty, preying on tens of millions. But the 1989 democracy movement sounded the communist tiger's death knell. Ever since the Tiananmen massacre, a sense of crisis has weighed heavily on China's government.

Earlier this year, some Beijing scholars described China's policy framework as "market economy, elite alliance, authoritarian politics," claiming that this framework will remain unchanged for the next 10 years. Such is the autocracy that has emerged in China since 1989. After a visit to southern China, the late Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping (???) gave the green light to a free-market economy, linking China's bureaucracy to international capital to strengthen the dictatorship's effectiveness.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2004/06/13/2003174890




US fires back at China over Taiwan
`STATUS QUO': The US Department of State's spokesman said yesterday that there had been no recent changes in Washington's policies or commitments to Taiwan
By Charles Snyder
STAFF REPORTER IN WASHINGTON
Friday, Jul 16, 2004,Page 1

The US on Wednesday rejected Chinese demands that Washington cut back on weapons sales and other cooperation with Taiwan, insisting that US policy had not changed in recent months.

State Department spokesman Richard Boucher made the comments in response to statements Tuesday by Chinese Embassy spokesman Sun Weide (???), who said that Beijing was "gravely concerned over the recent US moves on the Taiwan question."

"I don't know why one needs to talk about `recent US moves,'" Boucher said at his regular daily press briefing. "There's been no change in US policy regarding China and Taiwan."

US officials have repeatedly communicated the US' continuing Taiwan policy to China, Boucher said. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice reiterated the policy during her meetings in Beijing last week with the top Chinese leadership, as did Secretary of State Colin Powell in a recent meeting in Indonesia with Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhao-xing (???), Boucher said.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/07/16/2003179141



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http://darkerxdarker.tripod.com/tiananmen.html

China's purged Communist Party chief Zhao Ziyang poses for a photo at home in Beijing in Autumn of 2002. Zhao is 84, with silver hair and in declining health, but still lives under house arrest 15 years after he was toppled for opposing the army crackdown on student-led pro-democracy protests. Picture taken in Autumn 2002. REUTERS/Stringer/FEATURE/CHINA-TIANANMEN-ZHAO




Local residents load wounded people on a rickshaw flatbed shortly after PLA soldiers opened fire on a crowd in Beijing in this June 4, 1989 file photo. Friday, June 4, 2004 marks the 15th anniversary of the military assault that killed hundreds, possibly thousands, and ended seven weeks of protests centered on Tiananmen Square. (AP Photo/Liu Heung Shing)




The bodies of dead civilians lie among mangled bicycles near Beijing's Tiananmen Square in this early June 4, 1989 file photo. Friday, June 4, 2004 marks the 15th anniversary of the military assault on pro-democracy protesters who had occupied the square for seven weeks. Hundreds, possibly thousands, died in the early hours of June 4, 1989 when troops shot their way through Beijing's streets to retake the square. (AP Photo)





This is a May 27, 1989 file photo of student leader Wang Dan in Tiananmen Square Beijing calling for a city wide march. Friday, June 4, 2004 marks the 15th anniversary of the military assault on pro-democracy protesters who had occupied the square for seven weeks. Hundreds died in the early hours of June 4, 1989 when troops shot their way through Beijing's streets to retake the square. (AP Photo/Mark Avery, File)



A Chinese man stands alone to block a line of tanks heading east on Beijing's Changan Blvd. near Tiananmen Square in this June 5, 1989 file photo. Friday June 4, 2004 marks the 15th anniversary of the military crackdown on a student-led demonstration for democratic reform and against government corruption, which left hundreds, possibly thousands dead. (AP Photo/Jeff Wide ner, File)


Chinese tanks guard a major approach to Tiananmen Square two days after the June 4, 1989 crackdown on democracy protests. A resolution was introduced in the US Congress condemning China for the brutal crackdown 15 years ago and offering hope to Chinese citizens that democracy will ultimately triumph in the communist-ruled nation(AFP/File/Manuel Ceneta)

[Maple]

4. 'History is written in the ledger books'

Taiwanese companies have invested $125 billion in China.

[dArKeR]

6. Formosan's have taught the dirty Communist bastards how to run

there businesses and served as the initial capital for many of the Communists businesses. I know this for a fact. My friends have worked in China for 14 years. They get hired on at about 70% higher than their Taiwan pay. But then after they've taught the Communists how to run things they are fired. (I guess that's Capitalism.)

I think from Formosa's perspective they thought if they acted with honor and integrity they could some how make the Nightmare to the north go away. I believe the bastard Communists had this plan to use the Formosans to arm China and wait until the Communists were strong enough to stick the dagger in the back of Formosa.

[Maple]

13. Taiwan is part of China

and the sooner they stop this absurd posturing the better.

The world is not going to go to thermonuclear war to prevent the reunion.

It is in fact US policy that Taiwan is part of China.

It is in fact in the Taiwan constitution that they are part of China.

Enough already. Move on

[dArKeR]

16. You present your point, with facts, links, and history, as well as aWol

presented the butching in Iraq! Congratulations Comrade Communist and moral educated person!

[Igel]

24. You're absolutely right.

I also think Beijing should apologize to the democratically elected government at once and the entire CP hierarchy should resign, disbanding the party. Then the government should move from the colonial outpost to Beijing so they can better administer their country.

[dArKeR]

7. Taiwan's History, Present, and Future

http://www.taiwandc.org/tpetimes.htm

[dArKeR]

8. MAC warns Lien of legal backlash

The Mainland Affairs Council yesterday said Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan's (??) meeting with Chinese President Hu Jintao (???) was "disappointing and regrettable" and cautioned that the KMT might have broken the law in negotiating with the Chinese authorities on issues that only the government is authorized to deal with.

Wu also slammed Lien for criticizing Taiwan's democracy during the Beijing leg of his tour.

At a press conference last night, council Chairman Joseph Wu (???) urged the KMT to disclose the contents of Lien's closed-door meeting with Hu to the government and the public after his return to Taipei.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2005/04/30/2003252535

Let it be clear. The only people in Formosa who support the KMT or PFP are the dirty murderous bastards who fled China (and their children) and invaded Formosa.

[dArKeR]

9. Foreign minister criticizes Lien's trip

Minister of Foreign Affairs Mark Chen (???) said yesterday that Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan's (??) trip to China has had a negative impact on the country's diplomacy, and voiced concern about Beijing's possible obstruction of Taiwan's bid to join the World Health Assembly (WHA) next month.

China's passage of the "Anti-Secession" Law, which authorized Beijing to resort to "non-peaceful" means against Taiwan if it tries to move toward formal independence, brought Beijing criticism from the international community, the minister said in a press conference.

However, by hosting Lien and People First Party (PFP) Chairman James Soong (???), Beijing has eased the international pressure it has been under since the law's passage, Chen said.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2005/04/30/2003252549

[dArKeR]

10. Lien kow-towing to Beijing, green camp says

The pan-green camp lawmakers yesterday accused Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan (??) of currying favor with China by giving a speech full of what they called "greater China nationalism" at Peking University earlier in the day.

According to Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) Secretary-General Lee Yi-yang (???), Lien will "pay the price" for trampling on Taiwan's democratic development and betraying mainstream public opinion.

Lien claimed in his speech that Taiwan's democracy is threatened by a rising trend of populism in the nation, while its people's well-being is at stake because of a pro-independence movement trying to draft a new constitution and change the official name of the country.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2005/04/30/2003252550


DPP Chairman Su again blasts Lien over visit

Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) Chairman Su Tseng-chang(???) continued to lambaste Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan (??) yesterday for visiting China shortly after Beijing's enactment of its "Anti-Secession" Law authorizing the use of non-peaceful means against Taiwan.

"We've seen dining, drinking and gift exchanging, but we haven't seen Lien express a single word in China to reflect the Taiwanese people's feelings about the Anti-Secession Law," Su said at a press conference marking the launch of a publicity campaign to drum up support for the DPP in the May 14 National Assembly elections.

Ridiculing an earlier news report that said China may give Taiwan two pandas as a goodwill gesture in response to Lien's China visit, Su said that "what Taiwan needs is for China to destroy its missiles targeting Taiwan, and not a couple of pandas."

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2005/04/30/2003252553

[dArKeR]

11. Is there anyone left who can use their own brain? KMT murdered more than

Japan so why aren't these university student who tried to torch the Japanese embassy and called for a total boycott on Japan... why aren't they protesting a more murderous KMT?

Wouldn't it seem to be a question Mikey Whore Chinoy should be asking? (I don't have a TV now so I'm not sure if Mikey is still on CwhoreNN.


KMT, communists should work together, Lien tells Peking University students
n a speech at Peking University, the KMT Chairman Lien said the two parties had the same agenda but that the 'status quo' should be maintained
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2005/04/30/2003252552

[dArKeR]

12. What to do with Lien's treachery?

So Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan (??) thinks that Taiwan is not a real democracy -- or so he told students at Peking University yesterday. Well, perhaps he ought to know. After all, the system of government that Taiwan has -- where it is not a remnant of the 1947 Constitution -- is the result of six rounds of constitutional reform, all of which occurred under the previous Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) government. In that government, Lien successively occupied the posts of Taiwan provincial governor, premier and vice president, making Lien one of the principal authors of the current political setup.

It is hardly surprising, then, that he should be so flabbergasted that such an arrangement should twice fail to confirm his career trajectory into occupancy of the Presidential Office.

After a year of claiming the shooting of President Chen Shui-bian (???) was rigged to secure a sympathy vote, it was somewhat embarrassing for the pan-blue camp that the shooting was found to have been committed by a pan-blue supporter. When Lien, in Beijing, castigated the "partiality" of Taiwan's judiciary, could he have been admitting to the lack of a high-level investigation of possible collusion between the pan-blue gunman and the Lien campaign?

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2005/04/30/2003252581

[teryang]

14. Texas is still part of Mexico

And Hawaii is an independent country as well.

[bemildred]

15. I think this whole "federalism" thing has outlived it's usefulness. nt

[derby378]

17. And Lithuania is still part of the Soviet Union - yeah, right

Ever wonder why we have an amusement park named "Six Flags Over Texas?" Because we were under French, Spanish, Mexican, Texan, American, and Confederate flags at one point or another. It happens.

[teryang]

21. Interesting that you bring up Lithuania

Lithuania is now independent because of the demise of Soviet power.

Is mainland China in decline? I hadn't noticed. Did you ever wonder?

[Igel]

26. You're right. Let's have them invade another country.

Maybe Vietnam, Russia, or India.

No, wait, India's on the upswing, so invading them would be immoral. I've seen the light: no more petty progressive ethics! Freedom through oppression, might makes right, the only good country is one occupied by the strongest army. I see your point entirely.

So, Russia or Vietnam, then? After Taiwan, of course. First we have to wipe out those not acknowledging Han supremancy and its just need for Lebensraum. Or is it too early to be so explicit?

Or maybe your post does make me wonder.

[teryang]

27. You can be right and wrong at the same time

The neo-cons wish to use Taiwan and Japan to "roll back" Chinese power. Letting these sort of delusions govern foreign policy in an area where American power is faltering is extremely dangerous and could result in the deaths of millions.

I find sanctimonious moralizing about Taiwan a little absurd. We supported the KMT for decades. We do business in the billions with China every day. We gave them ICBM telemetry and miniture nuclear warhead technology (MIRVs). Principled stands on Asian politics merely disguise strategic maneuvering. I find these posts from pro-Taiwan/Formosa sources as biased as any I have ever seen on this board.

[dArKeR]

18. Lien, Soong are `fools,' Lee says

Calling Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan (??) a "fool," former president Lee Teng-hui (???) yesterday said that only President Chen Shui-bian (???) can solve cross-strait problems, and not "unrelated" people.
"To stop the harsh criticism voiced by the international community against the `Anti-Secession' Law, China drags over two fools from Taiwan to have a talk," he said. "The five-point agreement reached between Lien and Chinese President Hu Jintao (???) does not help solve anything. President Chen, who represents the people of Taiwan, is the only one who has the power to untie the knots of the tangled cross-strait impasse."

Lee also said that he does not see any use for Lien to talk with Hu and other Chinese authorities because they are from a country which is neither free nor democratic.

As a former president, Lee said that he shows respect for President Chen and will always support him. "Lien refuses to address Chen as president and supports the use of violence, letting gangsters beat up Taiwanese people at the airport," he said.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2005/05/01/2003252669

[dArKeR]

19. Taiwan `will never fail' in talks with China, DPP says

The legislative caucus of the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) said yesterday that Taiwan will "never fail" if the two sides of the Taiwan Strait engage in government-to-government dialogue.
DPP caucus whip Lai Ching-teh (???) was responding to US suggestions that China start a dialogue with President Chen Shui-bian (???) and the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP).

Lai said that state-to-state dialogue would conform with the interests of the US and Taiwan.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2005/05/01/2003252670

[MontageOfFreedom]

20. One country finally woke up, did they. n/t

[dArKeR]

22. Lien plays his last card

Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan's (??) meeting with Chinese President Hu Jintao (???) was most disappointing. Not only did he fail to convey Taiwan's resentment over the "Anti-Secession" Law, he gave credibility to the so-called "1992 consensus" in a five-point press communique released jointly with Hu.
Lien's acknowledgement of the "1992 consensus" on "one China" covering the two sides of the Taiwan Strait is problematic for several reasons. President Chen Shui-bian's (???) government has never acknowledged the existence of this "consensus." In a recently released autobiography, this view is supported by the late Straits Exchange Foundation (SEF) chairman Koo Chen-fu (???), who represented the government in the 1992 meeting with Chinese representatives in Hong Kong in which the "consensus" is said to have been reached.

Lien's acceptance of the "consensus" clashes with Taiwan's cross-strait policy. He is also treading on dangerous legal ground. The existence or not of the "consensus" impacts on the political status of the country. The power to acknowledge such a consensus is reserved by the government. Evidently, Lien has not learned his lesson from KMT Vice Chairman Chiang Pin-kun (???), who is under investigation for similarly encroaching on the authority of the state.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2005/05/01/2003252710

[dArKeR]

23. Lien betrays democracy in China - Voice of America (Conspiracy)

On Wednesday, as Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan (??) led his delegation to China's tomb for Sun Yat-sen (???) to pay their respects, repeatedly ingratiating himself with his Chinese hosts, a report on Voice of America said that a movement to reconstitute the KMT had appeared in China because of dissatisfaction with the party's China-friendliness and the Lien-led delegation.
According to a report on the Web site of the US-based Huanghuagang Magazine, representatives of secret societies and organizations from 17 Chinese provinces met before Sun's tomb in Nanjing on April 23, where they swore to reconstitute the KMT.

Quoting this report, the Voice of America reported on Wednesday that a statement by the "reconstituted KMT" claimed that secret societies and organizations throughout China had planned to reconstitute the Chinese Revolutionary Alliance, a precursor to the KMT, on Aug. 20, the 100th anniversary of the alliance's formation. On that day, they had also planned to call for a peaceful republican revolution and an end to the Chinese Communist Party's (CCP) dictatorship.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2005/05/01/2003252713

[dArKeR]

25. `Hell Camp' remembered

From November 1942 until the surrender of Imperial Japanese Army in Taiwan in August 1945, the township was home to the infamous Kinkaseki "Hell Camp." Over 1,000 British Commonwealth and Allied troops were interned in the camp at one time or another and all were forced to work in the local copper mines.

The POWs were subject to inhuman treatment, denied the most basic of medical facilities, flogged by their jailers -- some of who were Taiwanese. And many prisoners were, quite literally, worked to death.

Following the surrender of Japan, the surviving POWs were shipped home and the camp's wooden buildings were dismantled piecemeal by the local populace. The only evidence of the once notorious POW camp to survive the looting were several concrete foundations, a half-dozen wall supports and a solitary concrete gatepost.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2005/05/01/2003252765

Posted cause almost never see a story of the true history of Formosa. Japan ruled Formosa before the KMT invasion in 1949. Japan rules Taiwan from about 1910. You have to go back about 300 years before you can find some kind of Bastard Chinese Cave Man rule in Formosa.

[dArKeR]

28. Lee says Lien visit threatens freedoms

Former president Lee Teng-hui (???) yesterday warned that Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Chairman Lien Chan's (??) visit to China has sparked three crises that will eliminate Taiwan's sovereignty, freedom and democracy, and said that Lien might collude with China to launch a "political blitz" to destabilize Taiwan, such as a bid to recall the president.
Lee made the remarks at a forum discussing "the imminent crisis that Taiwan is facing" held by the Taiwan Advocates (???) yesterday afternoon at the Grand Hotel. About 1,500 people attended the forum to listen to Lee and four other political analysts deliver their viewpoints on the significance of Lien's trip to China.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2005/05/02/2003252819

[dArKeR]

29. New Party thugs in airport clash

Police yesterday accused New Party Chairman Yok Mu-ming (???) and his Secretary-General Lee Sheng-feng (???) of pushing police at CKS International Airport last Tuesday.
"Evidence showed Yok grabbed a club away from police and pushed them. We also think he ordered gangsters to attack pan-green supporters," said Aviation Police Bureau Director Chen Tzi-chin (???) yesterday.

"They were accused of interfering with public functions," Chen said.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2005/05/02/2003252812

[dArKeR]

30. Chinese dissidents slam Lien for silence on rights

Two prominent Chinese dissidents exiled in the United States expressed disappointment Saturday at the meeting between the top leaders of the Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) due to their failure to talk about China's democratization.
Wang Dan (??), one of the student leaders of the 1989 Tiananmen Square pro-democracy movement in Beijing, said in a speech to around 300 overseas Chinese in Los Angeles that he felt disappointment and regret over the outcome of the meeting between KMT Chairman Lien Chan (??) and CPC General Secretary Hu Jintao (???) last Friday in Beijing.

Wang said he agreed with some of the points made by Lien in a speech at Peking University, but he lamented that the KMT chairman did not touch on relevant issues regarding China's democratization during his meeting with Hu.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2005/05/02/2003252828