SHE'S IN TOTAL RECOIL

[TheWebHead]

HE has been described as "Governor Groper", a Nazi sympathiser and a pot-smoking sexual predator. But while Total Recall star Arnold Schwarzenegger bulldozes his way through a catalogue of sleazy accusations, they have plainly taken their toll on his fragile wife.

...Her gaunt features show a woman under immense strain and while she forced a smile for the cameras, her tired blue eyes were devoid of laughter.

Maria suddenly appears to look every one of her 47 years. Her hair, once lustrous, seems dry and brittle and the expertly applied make-up can't disguise her tension.

...Records show his father Gustav was a member of the Nazi Party, while Sue Moray also revealed that Arnie's late mother Aurelia was so besotted by the sight of Hitler in her hometown of Graz, Austria, that "she almost swooned".

In her book, Arnold: An Unauthorised Biography, author Wendy Leigh told how during a bodybuilding competition in Munich, Arnie gave a Nazi salute and was taken aback by the lukewarm applause he received.

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[emad]

1. Just wondering whose botox implants are going to fail first....

HIS or HERS?

[stlsaxman]

2. Poor Maria, and I mean that in all sincerety...

they meet, he gropes, they copulate, get pregnant/married...

i can just hear ahnold sayng to his buddies after he meets her-

"I vant to f*ck Madia Shlivah..."

Trapped in a marriage by Catholic beliefs and now the trap is sealed by
political protocal. Can she (does she want to) get out of this mess?

Poor Maria.

[Jivenwail]

3. Poor Maria?

Well, perhaps - I do feel sorry for her. But she is no different than any other "battered" wife. She's actually a classic example. Kept pyschologically downtrodden by a domineering, manipulative man. She's known for years about his philandering, groping, sexist way, but she made a decision to stay with him - for watever the reasons. Religion, the kids - whatever. She certainly did not have to stay, if she didn't want to. Obviously she wants to stay. So poor Maria, indeed. Her choice, her decision. She made her bed (so to speak) and now has to lie in it. One wonders just what would it take for her to admit she wanted out?

[JNelson6563]

5. yes I know someone just like that

It is sad to witness really but, in reality, some of these women dedicate their lives to making their man happy (well, trying but often failing) and, more importantly, convincing themselves they are happy. I have noticed that maladies such as OCD seem common among such women.

Julie

[Selwynn]

33. Sort of like Hillary?

oooooh I know I'm gonna get hurt for that, but sounds like your statements would apply in that way as well.

[0007]

7. A real women would take a hike

who are you kidding?

[Ferretherder]

8. I know what you are saying stlsaxman, however,...

...everyone should remember what hell Bill and Hillary went through with the attempted impeachment of THE LAST ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES....uh,....sorry - got carried away there. Please don't misunderstand, I felt many, if not most, of the charges of sexual misconduct leveled at Bill were politically driven and totally false. Of course that there little Monica thing was obviously true and none of us here would try to deny the obvious truth.

That being said, the whole thing with Shwarzwhoever is - and I mean this in all sincerity - a TOTALLY different thing. Bill Clinton's dallying with the ladies was 'off base', to put it mildly, but not of any concern to the public at large, as long as his private life didn't interfere with his ability to perform his job as POTUS. Shwarzenbanger, on the other hand, has always waved the 'family values' flag proudly, as all conservatives are wont to do, and decried the very hint of moral impropriety in any Democratic candidate or office holder, thus saying, in essence, that they, themselves, are FAR above reproach on such issues. We are, therefore, justified in pointing out this little hypocracy to the sheeple-at-large, and making it a campaign issue - an issue of HONESTY and TRUTHFULNESS.

Now, to my point, as regards Mrs. Shwarzendumber. It is NONE of our business whether she finds his behavior too much and leaves him, or whether she 'stands by her man', as it were (Not to say you were suggesting anything untoward, stlsaxman, regarding their situation). The repugs wanted us to believe that Hillary was somehow 'consumed with her own visions of power' or 'taking one for the team' instead of just maybe she LOVES her husband and is willing to work things out with her lifelong partner. Mrs. (uh, ok, I'll stop the jabs at Shwarzengroper)...Maria will have to work things out for herself on this one, and all of us here at DU should be content to let her do just that.

[KharmaTrain]

15. You Made My Morning

There's another issue I could mention that is sure to bring flames...thus I'll toss the bomb and run.

Isn't there some indictment here on her upbringing in the sheltered/fishbowl world of the Kennedys? Especially Maria. First, she's thrust into the rise and fall of her uncles as a child, then her father's disastous VP bid (remember Thomas Eagleton) in '72 and then the cut-throat world of network TV News (ala Broadcast News).

Maria hasn't had an easy road. I'm sure she's had to fight for her own identity, first being part of the most visible family in the nation, next in earning respect over her name and/or looks at NBC and now as the "loyal wife" of a man who oozes with sleeze.

Yes, how her marriage or life is and their relationship is a personal matter and we can only hope she and her children are at peace in their world. However, that doesn't evade from the issue of her husband's assault on women and his blatantly ignoring or brushing off the accusations as partisan "puke" attacks.

[readmylips]

17. Maria hasn't had an easy road????

Maria got her job on TV because of her name connections. You try getting a high profile job on tv with your name? Maria threw herself into the Kennedy name to make herself a name and didn't have to fight for anything. Afterall, she's not Caroline Kennedy or any of the immediate Kennedys that could have taken better advantage of thier name. She's Maria Shriver Kennedy, now Maria Scharztheroper. Maria wanted to be in the limelight, that's the price she pays.

[KharmaTrain]

19. A Double-Edged Sword

Yes, she's sure paying the price. I've already posted that she deserves the trashing she's getting and her actions in virtual denial of her husband's behavior creates a lot of suspicion about their relationship and her overall emotional sanity.

The Kennedy name has served to destroy as much as it's helped...look at RFK's children and can create as many barriers as it removes. It's one thing for NBC to give her a job just based on the name, but she, to her credit earned it and has kept it. Don't you think that the Kennedy name and association with as much a turn off (especially in them there "Red States") as it is a plus?

Look at many children of famous people that have tried to use the name to advance a career and how they've failed (Neil Bush).

I don't think even in our deepest darkest moments there's not one of us who hasn't thought how great it would be to have all that wealth, access and attention, but I wouldn't trade it for my privacy, health and family. Maria gets no pity in these quarters, I'm just a spectator like everyone else outside California.

[JackSwift]

28. She's just as much

Rose and Joe's granddaughter as Caroline is and been around politics just as long. She knew what she was getting into. Other than party affiliation, Arnold is just like her gropy male relatives, and has much of the same political opinions. As much as I enjoy Arnie's idiotic action movies, he has always been an arrogant ass in his personal life. She should have seen that.

[juajen]

31. Excuse me, there is no evidence

that any thing that Bill Clinton did was without the consent of the woman involved. Though the Paula Jones thing and the Kathleen Willey thing were supposed to point to this, it was not proven and the evidence was extremely suspect. These two cases are drastically different and I hate seeing the comparison. What AS has done is sexual assault, abasement and shameful, and usually out in the open with plenty of witnesses. Bill Clinton was chased and, unfortunately, sometimes got caught. Most, if not all, of the women who accused BC had a hidden agenda; AS's women were sometimes underlings, interviewers, newspeople, a waitress, etc. who were afraid of AS's power, physical and financially.

PLEASE stop comparing him to Bill Clinton. We have all seen the warm and caring love he gives to Chelsea and Hillary, and the warmhearted relationship he had with his own mother. AS won't let his mother or his wife wear pants in his presence. Got that? "Won't let". A total disregard for women's feelings equals a mysogonist to me. AS certainly deserves this title.

[Lorien]

24. I agree, but

what Maria is going through is totally different than what Hillary was put through. Extramarital affairs are usually driven by one or a combination of four things; a). a persons need for approval or affermation of their desirability, b). sexual addiction, or c.) people involved fall in love with another, but still love the one they are with (it is possible to be in love with more than one person at a time,after all), or d.) revenge. I think Bill's affairs were part a and part b, but that's only a guess. What Arnold did that was criminal WAS NOT SEX! The whole "love child" thing may have fallen inio the previous catagories (and therefore is none of our business), but sexual battery is driven by ego, a desire to dominate, feel powerful, and humiliate those being dominated. It's a precursor to rape. The mindset behind Arnold's actions point towards Arnolds mental and emotional instability, and in all likihood, Maria IS an abused wife! People who cheat on their spouses as Bill did often feel guilt and treat their spouses like royalty afterwards (when George Burn's wife wanted a new piece of jewelry, she use to say to her friends "I just wish George would have another fling-then I would have matching earrings"!)it doesn't make it OK or healthy-but some spouses don't feel it's a dealbreaker,so who are we to judge? Abusers usually treat all women the same way.I think that Maria needs those who care about her most to intervine; it may be the only way she is able to leave the relationship. Perhaps the public disclosures of her husbands criminal acts will help propel her towards saving herself, but somehow I doubt if she can do it alone.

[BQueen]

4. Great Headline, Great Article.

Arnie's escapades are stomach-churning. What an arrogant POS.

[Fridays Child]

25. Too bad it's published in the UK instead of LA. Maria seems to be...

...in very poor health, and I won't take a cheap shot at her. Everything from shame and fear to cultural influences discourage women from leaving controlling and abusive men. I've come to believe that some of the defensive behaviors of these women may actually wreak organic brain changes, given a long enough period of time. Much as we want or expect her to be a strong, independent woman, it could be too late for Maria.

[Lexingtonian]

6. it's not a good time to be Maria Shriver

I mean, to keep any dignity she's practically obligated to divorce him now. Well, not divorce. Just to 'happen to' live separately. 'Cause boy, do people see how far she married down!!!

[rocktivity]

9. She looks terrible--not attractive wise, but healthwise

I realize now that I saw her on TV a couple of days ago--I just didn't recognize her.


rocknation

[reprobate]

10. She looks like a deer caught in the headlites.

....or a person caught in an untenable situation, but has no escape path. That's the look of depression.

[punpirate]

12. It's her business if she wants to starve herself...

... to be appealing to Ahnold. That's between her and him.

If she wanted to marry him and have kids, that's her business, too, no matter what the terms or personal reasons.

But, the moment Ahnold decided he wanted to be the newest shining light of the neo-cons, she didn't have to either approve of that or support that effort, and yet, she has.

I guess I have a very hard time understanding how someone with the sort of political legacy of her families can turn her back on everything her father and her uncles tried to achieve in favor of someone who will use the office for personal aggrandizement and the further enrichment of the wealthy in this country, at the expense of the public.

Schwarzenegger's desires are as transparent as water in this power grab, and I wonder why Maria Shriver chooses not to understand what is going to happen. Yes, I know all about enabling bad behavior, but this is a woman raised amongst people who empowered her to be stronger and more morally certain than this translucent image of a man. *sigh*

[northernsoul]

21. I'm sorry to say this

but I've seen healthier looking cadavers.
Seriously.

This woman needs serious help. Pronto.

[Bake]

30. I was pretty shocked by the "before and after" pictures

a few posts above. Very very shocking. She looks BAAAAAD.

Bake

[juajen]

32. OK, as to that

Those photos are unfair. She is on TV right now as we post, and she looks very attractive. She is too thin, but that is very "in" among her set. She also appears on TV which adds weight, so she has to be careful. The photo where she looks like death, I believe, is either a very bad photo or was, shall we say, manipulated. I, too, am concerned for her health, but she does not look as bad as it's being portrayed on these posts. That said, I cannot understand how she can take up for that serial groper.

[colorado_ufo]

23. This woman is carrying a heavy load, and it shows deeply

in her face. I worry for her health.

They have children, and no doubt this - and her religious faith - enter strongly into her decision to stay with Ahnold. There is also the matter of a long personal history that they share, family secrets, the threat of public embarrassment, loneliness, and a lot more. And those are just the practical matters - she may actually still love him. To an intelligent and sensitive woman, breaking up a marriage with children is not something to be undertaken lightly, even with the cushion of money and a family name.

This woman deserves the same compassion for her situation that we would give a woman of any other social and economic standing.

[readmylips]

11. Arnold & Maria are both disgusting....

The Kennedys are such a tight-knit family, why aren't they defending the groper or standing by that poor sack of bones, Maria. This is pretty strange. Not even one Kennedy has spoken out.

I don't feel sorry for Maria. She knew what a pig Arnold was before she married him. All of Hollywood knew he was a pig. Maria chose to that nazi predator to father her children. Her children are all-American kids. This will come back to bite her in the a$$.

My sister married a predator and a pig just like Arnold. After their marriage, his pigness got worse. She was in denial for years, until we stepped in and finally got rid of her. Her husband ended up in jail for touching teenage girls. My sister had to come back to her family on her knees. She finally got married to a nice guy and he adopted her son and changed his name. But my sister is not a famous person, and it would be more difficult for famous people to correct a wrong the way my sister did.

Predators pick their targets; the innocent, the shy, the less powerful, less influential, women and children. No wonder Arnold loves Hitler. He has the power to hurt people in his hands, and people laugh it up. Predators are charming, think their actions are funny, and they are such huge liers.

[Timefortruth]

13. Her mother offered some lame support earlier on

and I found even that to be disgusting. The reason her family hasn't offered more support is that she betrayed them. If she needed a kidney they'd likely come through for her, but I can't think of a reason that they'd support Arnold.

[KharmaTrain]

22. You're Not Seeing Any Other Kennedy

lending any type of support to their cuz. What's with that? She must be feeling very alone in her private moments.

[bleedingheart]

14. She is doing what her grandmother Rose would have done

standing by her man no matter what.

I can't say whether that is right or wrong but she is intelligent enough to make her own choices...and if he is her choice than that is her bed to lie in....

[pippin]

18. and , don't forget, what Jaqueline, and Ted's ex

Joan also did. If Arnold doesn't win my guess is that his currency as a marketable star in Hollywood will go zilch. Likewise, my guess is that she too will be dropped by NBC after all the unsavory dirt and the way she now looks.

[KharmaTrain]

20. Spot On

:thumbsup:

[0007]

16. In Arnold's world

there are cows and heifers. The cow is mooing, "how disgusting." The heifer is bellowing, "I want to be roped and groped."

Only one thing on this playful bull's mind.

[freethought]

26. Arnold should have known!

He should have known this stuff was going to come out! Maria is caught in the middle of this crap.

[gauguin57]

27. Maria has been anorexic for years.

Look at her photo on her wedding day. Normal-sized woman. Ever since then (maybe because of pressures of network news/husband who can't keep hands off other women/whatever) she's looked more and more anorexic on TV. We're just noticing more now because she's away from her protective NBC studio lighting.

And she should be used to this. She grew up in a family filled with Kennedy men (and the occasional Kennedy woman -- yeah, I'm lookin' at YOU, Kerry!), after all. Isn't it funny that Maria seems to have married what she's always seen around her.

Trapped by Catholic beliefs? Nah ... LOTS of those Kennedys have gotten divorces.

Maybe she just loves the lunkhead.

[Uzybone]

29. Wow, this article is stunning

I knew about the sexual dalliances long before Arnie decided to enter politics but the charges of racism are new to me. Has he ever answered to those charges?