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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 07:08 PM
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NPR 8pm headline item: Rumsfeld Did Not Have Accurate Information!
Didn't hear who was apologizing for his lack of Info

He said Bagdad was back to normal in Electricity

, He was not personally making the ratraction.

Electricity somewhere near 2/3 normal.

Looking for link
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 07:12 PM
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1. Whoa! You know that buck I saw flying out of the White House today?
You know, earlier, when Ari spoke? Now I think I just saw if flying out of the Pentagon.

Duck everyone! Don't let it stop at you!

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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 05:57 AM
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14. NYT Confirms but buries in this story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/08/international/worldspecial/08POST.html?ex=1058241600&en=5a7e4e338e905470&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

No need to register due to the google partnership


Can't copy/paste


Water and Electricity still below pre-war levels

Rummy is a liar, NYT buries it in the middle of the story
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 07:15 PM
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2. link - Report Summary Released at Pentagon
Edited on Mon Jul-07-03 07:18 PM by NNN0LHI
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0306/06/ltm.14.html

BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Back to the Pentagon right now. The Defense Intelligence Agency report stating that prior to the war there was "no reliable information about chemical weapons in Iraq."
CNN has obtained a copy of the summary of that report.

Barbara Starr talked about it last hour, back with us with more -- Barbara, what do you have?

BARBARA STARR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Bill, well, you know, U.S. soldiers continuing to scour Iraq every day, looking for weapons of mass destruction, looking through many suspect sites, trying to see where Saddam Hussein may have hidden those weapons. But in the weeks since the war ended, they have come up with nothing.

Now, this may not be a surprise to some members of the intelligence community. What we can tell you is that we have obtained a one page summary of a classified Defense Intelligence Agency report from September 2002. That's when the administration was making a very strong public case that Iraq posed an imminent threat.

But look at what the DIA had to say at that time. The Defense Intelligence Agency saying there is no reliable information on whether Iraq is producing and stockpiling chemical weapons or where Iraq has or will establish its chemical warfare agent production facilities.

Now, as recently as yesterday, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in his view the intelligence was solid.

more

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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 07:22 PM
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4. IMPEACH ALL THEIR SORRY ASSES. NOW! what would they do to clinton
they would have already dropped an atomic bomb on him. this has to stop. where are the damned democrats?????>?
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 07:22 PM
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5. Well, this is about WMD, the headline I heard was about Electricity
In Baghdad.

Rummy said Electicity was back to normal. Must be the New Normal.


did you mean to post this in the ARi thread?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 07:25 PM
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6. Sorry. I read your subject line and assumed it was WMD related. My mistake
Edited on Mon Jul-07-03 07:26 PM by NNN0LHI
I should never assume anything.

Don

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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 07:30 PM
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7. drip,drip, drip, drip....gushhhhhhhhhh...where's shrub ? nt
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WhataBildeberger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 07:19 PM
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3. "I did not have sexual relations with that information."
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 07:39 PM
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8. too cute! -- n/t
B-)
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 08:04 PM
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9. 9 pm Headline: No Repeat , did they get a call from Rove?
still looking for link, nothing so far

Did anyone else hear this?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 08:56 PM
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10. I don't see a write up on the site
Was that a transcript up thread? If BARBARA STARSTRUCK is giving a report of the DIA Sept paper in *direct* contradiction of Rumsfeld, I don't think the severity can be overstated. NOW is when they should be racing with it.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:14 PM
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11. Is that the operative way of saying that they were lying?
How is it that we know the information they received indicated no WMD, yet they did not. The inaccurate information was what they were adding to it, and they knew it. It's called making up reasons for war. It is a war crime.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 10:23 PM
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12. Nuremberg: criminals..because they STARTED the war....(link)
Statement by American Justice Jackson at Nuremburg War Criminal Trials... August 12, 1945

"We must make clear to the Germans that the wrong for which their fallen leaders are on trial is not that they lost the war, but that they started it. And we must not allow ourselves to be drawn into a trial of the causes of the war, for our position is that no grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy."

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/jack02.htm
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 10:32 PM
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13. Incompetence is not an excuse
Just who is in charge in the Bush* Regime? Will any of these fools take responsibility for what is going on? It is never them who make a wrong descision its always something/someone else doing something wrong. It can't be that von Rumsfeld is wrong, it must be faulty information.

The country and the world will not be safe until these "morans" are out of office. If the system worked impeachment proceedures would already be under way. But then again if the system worked, these fascists would not have been able to steal the 2000 election.

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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 06:19 AM
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15. NPR has a more detailed report this a.m. with less inflammatory language
The report is now 'at odds' with Rummy's earlier statements
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:58 AM
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16. NPR is co-opted.
It has become another whore-mouthpiece for the Administration. Not only have I stopped pledging, I have demanded all of my past pledges back.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:56 AM
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17. "As we know, there are known knowns...
...There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know."

"There's so many variables, that the numbers of possible point answers create a range that simply isn't usefull, that's simply not knowable."

"Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah."

yeah? well, f* you Rummy.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:17 AM
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18. Rumsfeld is the one who CREATED the information (OSP)
This is BS.
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