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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:17 AM
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Economy, Iraq hurt Bush in state poll (Illinois - sours dramatically)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0310260480oct26,1,3712220.story

Illinois voters have soured so dramatically on President Bush, his handling of the economy and his Iraq policy that half say they don't want to see him re-elected next year while fewer than four in 10 say they do, a new Tribune/WGN-TV poll shows.

Bush's nose dive in popularity has been so precipitous that, in just four months, his approval rating among Illinois voters has dropped from 57 percent to 46 percent, the poll found. Over the same time, the share of voters who say they disapprove of the job he's doing as president has climbed from 34 percent to 44 percent.

Though Bush lost Illinois by a wide margin in the 2000 election, voters in the state warmed up to him considerably after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. But the survey shows that the patriotic rally-round-the-president effect has rapidly melted away.

Especially troubling for Bush's standing in Illinois are the unfavorable attitudes toward him felt by voters who label themselves as political independents. Any Republican candidate must be able to attract the support of independents statewide in order to have a competitive chance to overcome the overwhelming number of Democratic votes coming out of Chicago.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:28 AM
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1. We are a Democratic State in Illinois
Everyone hates Jr here!
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:36 AM
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2. Actually you're a Republican state who's had their first Dem. Gov. in
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 02:38 AM by dArKeR
20 some years. You're more Republican than Texas. So I think this poll really reflects the end to Junior.

I still predict Junior will NOT be the Repuke nominee.

I also predict if the protesters keep it up and the Media Whores find some morals, Junior will have a psychotic breakdown.

If there are any real Psychiatrists around? I don't know what it's called but Junior can't live/function if everyone doesn't love him.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:41 AM
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4. Thanks dArKeR for the great info & on that note i'm going to bed.

Goodnight all
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RuB Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:34 AM
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5. Hey, you better be careful. Bushies skank mother said
those who attack her family especially her idiot son would die. So you take it back calling that crazy loon Bushie a crazy man!
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 05:02 AM
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6. You saw that also, old mama Bush got into it
She is defending her son. Saw that today on the T.V. Instead of setting the boy straight, they attack everybody else for pointing out that he is the idiot son. Nixons' mom did not even step in to defend her son. Nor did Ford, Kennedy, Reagan, BushI, Clinton,... Maybe their moms had passed away and could not, but those that were alive did not step in to defend their idiot sons.
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RuB Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:11 PM
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19. The lady defended George putting Betty's pigtail in the ink well saying
If Betty didn't wear pigtails George wouldn't have done it. That ugly woman Barbara Bush looks like the kind of witch who would say just that.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:31 PM
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20. Al Franken writes about Babs Bush
In "Lies" Al related a story about how he met the pearl-draped matron on an airplane and how she brushed his friendly attempts at conversation aside with "I'm through with you." She repeated that several times. When Al told the story to other people who were personally familiar with her they all said that they weren't surprised because Barbara Bush is known as being the Queen Bitch, just a horrible asshole-on-wheels. Of course, the media has worked hard on foisting the "cuddly Grandma" image of her.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 06:28 AM
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8. Not quite
Illinois is a state divided between Repugs and Dems. The Dems rule in Chicago and also in deep Southern Illinois, where there are more yellow dog Democrats than you can find most anywhere else. It's the suburbs and the central part of the state that is, and has been, Repug since 1856 (Champaign County went with Fremont in the 1856 election, and is very proud of that fact).
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:13 AM
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10. Bush Is A Malignant Narcissist
Check out this site and meet W face to face.

http://samvak.tripod.com/
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:01 AM
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13. and who, pray tell
will be the republican nominee? where, exactly, is someone going to come from in the three months remaining before New Hampshire (like it or not, the person will still have to win the primaries, most are binding these days) amd come up with $300 million dollars? You think that the Repukes are going to squander that $300,000,000 and raise another amount for someone else? (remember that it is not transferable)

no, really, who's it going to be, Cheney? Rummy? Condi?
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:27 AM
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14. That's Inaccurate
Sorry but that's just not so. The legislature has been nearly evenly divided for over 30 years, and the city of Chicago has been solidly dem for many, many years. Also, we have had at least 1, if not 2, Dem Senators since i've been alive, and i'm 47.

The overall distribution of House members in D.C. has never been more than 55:45 Repubs since i started voting, as well.

So, it's not a Repub state and hasn't been in my lifetime. Rather it's a typical split down the middle type thing and it swung WAY dem in the last 2 elections because the people are tired of the criminals in the Republican party here.
The Professor
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:38 AM
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3. Karl is starting to sweat profusely it's getting harder & harder to spin

the idiot son



Hats off to Illinois
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 06:26 AM
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7. and overwhelming Democratic votes coming out of Southern Illinois
Always get made when Chicago forgets that the southernmost counties in the state are solidly Democratic.

I hope that as Illinois goes, so goes the nation. People are waking up to the incompetancy and lies of this administration.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:05 AM
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9. a "precipitous nosedive"!! Great description!
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:29 AM
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11. The "Winner/Loser" factor
Rove's most original and successful strategy has been the "preemptive victory dance"--they start acting like they've won well before the voting starts, even when the polls are running the other way. Obvious enough how it works: people like to identify with a Winner, hate to identify with a Loser. Doesn't matter if the Winner is a tyrannical fratboy with delusions of godhood; he is surrounded with the glow of Winner Wonder and our eyes glaze over and we must vote for him.

Iraq was such a breezy easy triumph and made such good TV and was so totally painless and uncomplicated just the way we like it. War On Terror = "Everyone go out and shop!" No B, S & T for this boy, it's all McWar, McTriumph, McVictory, McPolitcs.

Oops, now bad stuff on TV. Suicide bombs, $87 billion-dollar bill and counting, blood and ineptitude hanging out all over. Change channel, no fun. Bad TV, bad president. Suddenly it's all drenched in Loser Light.

The triumph of shallow perceptions: You live by 'em, you're gonna die by 'em as well.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:49 AM
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12. A Cook County Sheriff hasn't been convicted of anything for 120 years
I'm sure I read this story a few years back, CNN, MSGOP??? Some where.

Don't have time to read if it's in here:
The Cook County Sheriff
http://www.ipsn.org/county1.html
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GreenGreenLimaBean Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:29 AM
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15. the Flyboy impression was the best thing * could've done
"Mission Accomplished" is sure blowing up in Rove's face right now.
We might not even need Rove implicated in the Plame Affair to get him
ousted from the WH.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:34 AM
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16. We in Illinois
are watching Chimpy do to the nation what our ex-criminal-governor, George Ryan did to our state during his 4 years in office. It was a criminal administration that was more interested in serving their special interests rather than the needs of the people. For me, it is like Deja-va and it really sucks! We in Illinois know first hand what rethuglicans are all about.
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itaintoveryet Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:53 AM
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17. going back to Mama Bush
but when i first saw her in the eighties i thought she was VP Bush's mother - did anyone else ?
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:28 PM
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18. I did too
glad I wasn't the only one that made that mistake of course I think it was a reasonable mistake. (A) I was young and (B) she did look a lot older than him at the time and now they both look old and Evil. When she opens her mouth she removes all doubt that she is evil. What was it Nixon said about her? It wasn't very nice I don't think he liked her much either. Now that's bad!
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