BREAKING; Mark Warner calls for Rumsfeld's resignation.

[killerbush]

Possible 2008 presidential candidate Mark Warner has joined the growing list of high ranking officials, and retired military leaders who have called for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to resign. This puts him in direct opposition to other possible candidates like Hillary Clinton and Tom Vilsack.

Warner released a statement saying, "The lines of mistakes in this war are almost unprecedented. The failure to make a change in the architect in Rumsfeld, with calls from the armed services and others-we are just in making those calls".


http://www.huffingtonpost.com

[thereismore]

1. it also puts him above Vilsack on my list for 08. Below Kerry however. nt

[emulatorloo]

11. Yes, Kerry called for Rumsfeld's resignation a long long long time ago

Maybe even before the article I'm citing -- google turned up a brazillion hits.


http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/25/kerry.rumsfeld/

Kerry reiterates call for Rumsfeld to resign
Says command must pay the price for Abu Ghraib abuse

Wednesday, August 25, 2004 Posted: 1657 GMT (0057 HKT)

PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- Citing the conclusion of an independent panel that higher command was also responsible for abuse of prisoners at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, Sen. John Kerry Wednesday reiterated his call for Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to resign.

"It's not just the little person at the bottom who ought to pay the price of responsibility," the Democratic presidential candidate said in a town hall meeting of Steamfitters Local 420 at a Philadelphia union hall.

Kerry said the Schlesinger report, which was released Tuesday, "said specifically that Secretary Rumsfeld set the climate in which these kinds of abuses were able to take place," he said.

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PS so much for the Joe Klein BS that Kerry never talked ABU GHRAIB too

[Peace Patriot]

15. Thank you for this information on Kerry. I myself had forgotten that his

call for Rumsfeld's resignation was in the Abu Ghraib context. I've said he didn't speak out against torture. I was more thinking of the debates, and my disppointment that he didn't call Bush on it there. But that's no excuse for saying he didn't address this issue at all. Mea culpa, President Kerry!

[Minnesota Libra]

22. Kerry called for Rumsfeld's resignation in Aug 04?? What about Al.....

....Gore? Do you know if he has called for Rumsfeld's resignation or any of their resignations as well. This could make or break who I vote for in 08 so I'm VERY INTERESTED in anything you have to say on this.

[OKIsItJustMe]

23. And Al Gore called for it before Kerry

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5068417/

Updated: 3:23 p.m. ET May 26, 2004

NEW YORK - Al Gore issued a fiery denunciation Wednesday of Bush administration policy in Iraq and demanded the resignation of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, CIA director George Tenet and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice.

Raising his voice to a yell in a speech at New York University, Gore said: “How dare they subject us to such dishonor and disgrace! How dare they drag the good name of the United States of America through the mud of Saddam Hussein’s torture prison!”
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[wisteria]

2. It took long enough! n/t

[greyl]

3. Hot damn! :) nt

[ShortnFiery]

4. Will Wonders ever cease!

And this guy is NOT a liberal by any stretch of the imagination.

I wonder what Jean Schmidt would have to say about a SOLID Centrist (too right for me to vote for President) telling her Dear Leader to fire Saint Rumsfeld? :P

[Roland99]

5. meh...who freakin' cares. He's going to be a DLC-dandy

I've been calling for Rummy's head for 2 years now.

[Terran1212]

21. Don't just fire Rummy, Arrest him.

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[Jack Rabbit]

Thank you, Governor Warner

However, as we all know, Mr. Rumsfeld is not the real problem.

Who shall be the first of our so-called leaders to call for the removal of Bush and Cheney? We demand their removal.

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. I hope he didn't misspell "precedented" in the actual release

:eyes:

Matter of fact, who can make any sense of the posted statement? :shrug:

[greyl]

8. lol

This is the copy from the article Huffington links to:

"The line of mistakes in this war is almost unprecedented," he told The Des Moines Register, including "the failure to make a change in the architect in Rumsfeld, with unprecedented calls for his resignation from the armed services — and those are just the public calls."

And, you're right about it not being exactly eloquent. ;)

[Renew Deal]

9. Warner is getting sharper

He's the biggest mystery of 08. He will either be the great savior or a disaster. I haven't figured that out yet.

[atomic-fly]

10. Thanks Mr Warner, gives me some hope!

fellow virginian.

[WhiteTara]

12. did he raise his arched brows when he said it?

Have to say, he doesn't impress me at all. He sounds like a triangulator.

[cliss]

13. Keep that chorus singing,

and keep hitting those high notes.

It ain't over yet for Mr. Rumsfailed. He thinks he's escaped danger (wipes the sweat off his brow)...."whew, man that was a close call". "But I got up there and told the American public the generals are 'mad at me' because I tried to 'modernize' the military. They are old-school and stuffy, so they got mad".

"But it looks like I won. I dragged out all my old friends and had them cover my ass."

HARDLY, Don. Iraq is not getting any better. And neither are you. Be out by this afternoon.

[rodeodance]

14. hot dog--He is keeping the issue on the front burner. MORE!

[Peace Patriot]

16. Cheney is equally--if not more--guilty of the war on Irag, as Rumsfeld.

And Bush of course was eager to "git Sodom" and kill and torture lots of people and strut around in a uniform that he disgraced--and signed off on it all.

It's pretty safe to call for Rumsfeld's resignation NOW.

He should be introducing a bill of impeachment in the state legislature, as someone just did in Illinois (thread on it today).

[OldLeftieLawyer]

17. Nice - he's our neighbor....

........ but it's NOT RUMSFELD WHO IS THE PROBLEM!!!

It's the policies, and that means Fuckface and His Band Of Illegal Squatter Thugs In The Oval Office have to be brought down.

[sidpleasant]

18. Rummy's not going anywhere

If he resigns then that means that the Senate gets to hold confirmation hearings on a new Secretary of Defense - under oath. Bush can't afford to have anybody grilled under oath for days about Iraq and Iran.

[lyonn]

24. recess appointment should take care of that problem

Remember Bolton? And a few judges. bush knows how to work His system.

[caledesi]

19. We are going to hear from more and more peeps...here's my take

The Dems are putting pressure on * to fire Rummy and * won't do it bec it would be like saying the invasion on Iraq was wrong and a failure. My take is that the reason the Dems will start more and more pressure on * is bec it is a back-door way of stopping the war in Iraq. The Dems want a big-fish to go down bec then people will wake up to this nightmare and demand that our troops come home.

You heard it here.

[0007]

20. This is a start toward the end...Good for Warner