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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:52 PM
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White House Threatens Veto on Media-Ownership Cap
WTF! Bastards

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030722/ts_nm/media_ownership_dc

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Bush administration said on Tuesday it would veto a large government-spending bill if it reimposed media-ownership caps that were recently relaxed by the Federal Communications Commission
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:54 PM
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1. good....
this will be a BIG issue in the campaign, and the WH is clearly on the wrong side of public opinion.

In fact, the Dem candidate ought to vow to make repealing that ruling his FIRST priority as President.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:54 PM
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2. What ever will Trent Lott do?
This is interesting, because there is a bipartisan effort to reimpose the caps.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:55 PM
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3. Override that veto, guys...
Please !!!
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I AM SPARTACUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:55 PM
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4. the Smirko Regime's reasoning doesn't seem to add up to much
"The Administration believes that the new FCC media ownership rules more accurately reflect the changing media landscape and the current state of network station ownership, while still guarding against undue concentration in the marketplace," the Office of Management and Budget said in a statement.

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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:56 PM
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5. More proof that the media is controlled by conservatives
If liberals controlled the monoplolistic monster known as the "US media", conservatives would be screaming to high heaven to break it up.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:59 PM
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7. you got it, this is PROOF there is no so-called librul media
if there were, the repubes would be red-faced and spitting every day against this idea, letting the libruls get even MORE media control..

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alaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:10 PM
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9. Thanks for posts 6 and 7, bingo.
But what is the quickest expression you can use to counter the myth of the liberal media with this. Cons can't seem to handle any sentence of more than three or four words.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:59 PM
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6. As they say in Ireland...
this administration is beyond the beyonds. They are unbelievable in your face fascists -- I hope to God that Americans will see through these assholes.
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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:07 PM
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8. Orwellian
Just a few more years to allow Murdoch and Hollinger/Perle to buy up the few remaining vestiges of a free press, then shut down the internet...and Shazam....the whole world is in the dark and Freeperized.

Sneering Dick and the neo-con house of cards are tumbling with about 2 weeks of very weak sunlight, imagine if we had a free press ?
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:12 PM
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10. Good, let him hand the Democrats a powerful issue...
...for the 2004 election.

The FCC deregulation moves made by Michael Powell are overwhelmingly unpopular with the American public. Whatever your political stances, monolithic media blocs do not need to get any bigger, and the voters know it. Media ownership has become an issue again, one worthy of a presidential race. Let Kerry or Dean or whoever else beat him over the head with it.
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:25 PM
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13. Don't forget
That there are some real journalists out there that might dig in their heels & fight back on this one.
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:38 PM
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15. Oh, absolutely.
I think the responsible journalists that are still out there will resist this one in some way, but even the motion towards a veto on the legislation on the deregulation of the media ownership rules will reflect badly on Bush on election day.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 09:48 PM
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20. Even the Repuke morning host is against it
Don Wade, who is the morning host on WLS 890 AM in Chicago, and a total Repuke Bush supporter, was railing against this. And he never disagrees with Bush on anything.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:18 PM
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11. A bald-faced threat
No doubt about it. The media has been hammering * over the past few weeks, so it is no surprise that they would retaliate. These guys have utter contempt for any semblance of democracy. Weak, craven, and utterly pathetic.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:21 PM
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12. This does the media giants a FAVOR
They want dereg. They will only be friendlier to him for this.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:36 PM
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14. bring it on pretzel boy!
This is a local political issue, and both sides want their home town news coverage to remain local. Otherwise the nationals control the whole country. Even my repuke Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson supports putting the media ownership cap back on. I know my Congressman supports them, but of course he's a good guy (Lloyd Doggett - "Capital D")

Sonia
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:45 PM
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16. Do it, George.
Create havoc because you MUST oppose the will of the people.

And any Dem who goes, "Oh dear, we can't let that happen," needs to have body parts removed in a solemn midnight ceremony.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:49 PM
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17. Dangit!
You're not supposed to talk about the ceremony! Now we need to change the location and everything, sheesh.

:evilgrin:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:53 PM
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18. About that Spending Bill
Edited on Tue Jul-22-03 07:54 PM by Crisco
The Bush administration said any move to roll back the changes would scuttle the $37.9 billion spending bill, which also sets the budgets for the Justice, State and Commerce departments.

Justice? This could mean Asscroft won't have the funding to go after hookers and houkas. Quelle horror!

I guess now we'll see if the media really can turn on a dime and go back to love-love-loving George W. Bush.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 08:27 PM
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19. Remember, the GOP Motherfuckers THREATENED the broadcasters this week
They "threatened" the broadcasters against running "Bush Lied" ads that the Democratic Party wanted to buy on television. This is a war over the free press.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 09:51 PM
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21. To throw it back at G DUHbya
Bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 01:21 PM
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22. If Bush vetos, this will become a major campaign issue.
It’s been a busy day, but it’s great to blog here on Larry Lessig’s blog.

I’ll be writing all week, but if there’s a day I can’t make it, Joe Trippi, my campaign manager, will fill in for me. Thank you Professor Lessig for inviting me.

The Internet might soon be the last place where open dialogue occurs. One of the most dangerous things that has happened in the past few years is the deregulation of media ownership rules that began in 1996. Michael Powell and the Bush FCC are continuing that assault today (see the June 2nd ruling).

The danger of relaxing media ownership rules became clear to me when I saw what happened with the Dixie Chicks. But there’s an even bigger danger in the future, on the Internet. The FCC recently ruled that cable and phone based broadband providers be classified as information rather than telecommunications services. This is the first step in a process that could allow Internet providers to arbitrarily limit the content that users can access. The phone and cable industries could have the power to discriminate against content that they don’t control or-- even worse-- simply don’t like.

The media conglomerates now dominate almost half of the markets around the country, meaning Americans get less independent and frequently less dependable news, views and information. James Madison and Thomas Jefferson spoke of the fear that economic power would one day try to seize political power. No consolidated economic power has more opportunity to do this than the consolidated power of media

{You can read the post and comment at Lawrence Lessig's blog by clicking here.--MG}

Posted by Howard Dean at 06:31 PM
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/000683.html

...
I scorn all polls except those that support my views. According to this week's Pew Research poll about the F.C.C. plan (to break the ownership barrier and permit media crossover), "By roughly 10 to one (70%-6%), those who have heard a lot about the rules change say its impact will be negative." Nearly half of those polled had heard about this issue, despite conflicted media coverage.

This growing grass-roots grumbling against giantism is getting through to legislators ordinarily cowed by network-owned station managers or wowed by big-media campaign contributions. Unfortunately, the any-merger-goes F.C.C. chairman, Michael Powell, has derided objections to his diktat as "garbage," and the White House strategist Karl Rove dismisses the depth of voter resentment that Democrats will be able to exploit next year.

Catch the way the liberal Representative David Obey of Wisconsin, who put forward the Appropriations measure that passed yesterday, reaches out to social conservatives. He complained about the way prime-time network programming forced local affiliates to air film of Victoria's Secret models in their less-than-full regalia, a sight he does not consider suitable for his 7-year-old. Obey & Co. is stealing traditionalist Republican clothes, scanties and all, and many G.O.P. candidates don't want to offend a core constituency.
...
But public opinion is on the march. Some in-house pollster should awaken President Bush to a bipartisan sleeper issue that could blindside him next year.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/17/opinion/17SAFI.html?n=Top%2FOpinion%2FEditorials%20and%20Op-Ed%2FOp-Ed%2FColumnists%2FWilliam%20Safire
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