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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:39 AM
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Rasmussen Reports Surprise John Edwards Up 9% (to 23%) Nationally Since 12/29
Source: OpEdNews


According to the latest Rasmussen Reports numbers, the anticipated Obama national bounce seems, instead, to be pointing John Edwards's way. The latest Rasmussen Daily Democratic Presidential tracking polls show that as of 1/6/2008, John Edwards has increased his percentage of likely US voters by +9 percentage points from 14% to 23%. This compares to Hillary Clinton's loss of -7 percentage points in the same period from 43% to 36% and Barack Obama's +1 point increase during the same period from 24% to 25%.

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Rasmussen Reports Daily Democratic Candidates (1/6/08)

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Date Clinton Obama Edwards

1/6/08 36% 25% 23%
1/5/08 38% 25% 20%
1/4/08 38% 26% 18%
1/3/08 41% 24% 17%
12/31/07-1/2/08 No polling - New Year's Holiday
12/30/07 42% 23% 16%
12/29/07 43% 24% 14%


NATIONAL AVERAGE: For the national race, Edwards’s improvement in the Rasmussen polling represents a +10.0% increase over the last six December polls averaged previously by Real Clear Politics. That same comparison shows Barack Obama with a -.75% decrease and Hillary Clinton with a –8.25% decrease in her national average--so all positive national movement in the Democratic Primary race seems to be in Edwards's favor.

Read more: http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_scorrick_080106_rasmussen_surprise_21_21.htm



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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:40 AM
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1. the link directly to Rasmussen
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 02:01 AM by themartyred
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll


Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Sunday, January 06, 2008
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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows John McCain and Mike Huckabee tied in the race for the Republican Presidential Nomination. Nationally, it’s McCain 19%, Mike Huckabee 19%, Rudy Giuliani 17%, Mitt Romney 15%, and Fred Thompson at 13%. Ron Paul attracts 4% support (see recent daily numbers).

New polling data released Sunday shows McCain with a slight over Romney in New Hampshire. Rasmussen Reports will release new polling data from New Hampshire each day until Tuesday.

In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, it’s Clinton 36%, Barack Obama 25% and John Edwards 23% (see recent daily numbers). While Clinton retains a lead in the national polling, RasmussenMarkets data suggests that Obama may now be considered the frontrunner for the nomination.

In New Hampshire, data released Sunday shows Obama leading Clinton by twelve.
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John has went up every day for the past week! And since the caucus he is up 5% and up 3% from the debate on Saturday!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:24 PM
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59. I'd like to believe he could make it.
But if he doesn't, Obama is acceptable.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:50 AM
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2. Yeees! Go John!
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:01 PM
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66. Please send this over to CNN
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:03 AM
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3. That's good news.
I'm hoping he can draft Obama long enough to make the big move on Super Tuesday while eliminating Clinton at the same time.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:20 AM
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4. every time I see your posts
I think "hey, that's the guy I wanted in 04!" I would love Edwards to pick Clark if he got the nomination. If not him, Obama would be fine, or Biden.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:25 AM
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15. Hillary has Clark on her campaign. Clinton/Clark are old friends from Arkansas.
Clark was put in charge of the NATO troops under pres. clinton. Clark has been fundraising & doing stump speeches for Clinton.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:37 PM
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61. Completely off-topic, but I wondered where
Clark was. For some reason I hadn't been seeing anything from him, but now I know why. He's been busy stumping for her in primary states.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:46 PM
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63. The YouTube video of her speech after the Iowa primary shows Clark
standing right behind her on the stage. Yep. That's where he's been.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:33 AM
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5. Excellent and encouraging news!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:15 AM
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6. I wonder what impact the dropping out of several candidates has had?
Versus how much of this is just fluidity among voters who have "had their mind made up" (at least enough to answer a poll) and have shifted? For example, is Edwards gain people moving from Clinton (where there is a net loss) to Edwards? Or could some of the change be folks who leaned Biden or Dodd, moving to Edwards, while simultaneously some who had supported Clinton have moved into the "I am not so sure" catagory?

Regardless, it is interesting - and frankly encouraging per the inevitability meme, how fluid the race is. I think whoever wins need to work for it, and will be a better candidate in the GE because of it.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:16 AM
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7. Yes! Dems might actually be waking up!
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:23 AM
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8. I'm happy to see this!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:57 AM
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10. yep, and new poll shows ONLY EDWARDS
beats ALL GOP candidates in OHIO of all places. Obama trails McCain and tied with Huckabee in matchup poll question. Hillary fairs even worse. All 3 beat Giuliani there, which doesn't bode well for him winning the GOP nomination.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/state/2008/01/05/ddn010608edwards.html
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:43 AM
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27. So am I!
:woohoo:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:50 AM
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9. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:19 AM
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11. the best news I have seen since Thursday
all this, in spite of being universally ignored by the corporate media and even fucking NPR
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:48 PM
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68. NPR has become a shill for the statist wing of the corporatocracy (neoliberals).
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:04 AM
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12. Did it himself without corp M$M coverage. It's call momentum, with Edwards we win in November.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:56 AM
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17. Yep, the M$M is terrified of this guy.
If they don't start to acknowledge him, I'm boycotting the media through cancellation of my cable service.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:24 AM
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26. Agree, M$M wants to tank Edwards, I saw many pundits
saying Edwards was done because he didn't win Iowa and because he doesn't have enough money. Neither is even close to being true.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:42 PM
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47. I Believe My Facts Are Correct & It's Been Reported That Chuck Todd's
wife works for Hillary Clinton. About 6 weeks ago when he and David Gregory were on Hardball after one of the debates they stated that D.C. Elites "hate" Edwards and the powers that be WON'T let him become the nominee. When Tweety asked them "who" Todd sort of laughed and said..."YOU know who we're talking about" and then said he wasn't going to say it on National TV!

I then heard David Schuster on another program, not sure where say almost the same thing, but HE wasn't in a conversation per se, just "reporting" information as he usually does. What I mean is that he was reporting this and other general political information at the same time.

While I had noticed even before the Hardball conversation what had been going on regarding MSM, it was then that my suspicions were confirmed! And THEY call this Democracy! And while they didn't mention anyone but Edwards, I DO think they EXCLUDED other candidates as well and the main focus "was" and for the most part STILL IS... Clinton and Obama!

So for Edwards one might conclude that he never let this stop him, and that HE IS a strong determined candidate and quite a fighter. Even though I've supported him for a very long time and also realize he has changed his mind on various issues, it's my belief that he's done so because he's a much more confident man and has matured a GREAT deal since his time as a Senator. I do admit that I was against the war, probably before The Idiot got himself appointed as POTUS!. There were reports that The Idiot was going to go into Iraq no matter what way back in 1997. Back then NOBODY would even listen to me and thought I was bat-shit crazy! Well, we all can see what actually did occur!

I'm sure "most" who voted back then realize what that vote did. Some just don't want to admit they could have been wrong. And I have always had my doubts about "what" Obama would have actually done had he been a Senator at that time. Not voting because you weren't there doesn't actually mean you wouldn't have voted as so many others did... FOR the authorization. And I know someone will post all about Edwards' actions back then... go ahead. What I'm seeing now IS a different person and he HAS changed, so WHAT?? In some ways I think the "heady" feeling of being a first time Senator explains much of what happened, ESPECIALLY when many many "old-timers" did the VERY SAME THING!!

So I say... Go, Johnny, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:31 PM
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52. I would expect anyone speaking honestly to have changed on a
few things over the last eight years. The country has changed and so has the magnitude of some of the problems it is facing.

With John Edwards it isn't like he has to speak about middle class issues. He doesn't need to work so hard for these types of issues to become the nominee. He could easily just switch to being a Repuke and probably have a very successful political career. He is promoting and working for the positions he is because he believes in them.
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:31 AM
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80. Media owners are surely against Edwards
Edwards is the most likely candidate to draw away their cash cow and push through campaign reform legislation which would cut out all corporate influence and reduce the number of TV ad buys considerably.

That's only the most direct reason the media owners can't have Edwards win. But he can do it anyway.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:03 AM
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30. EBAT that what it is going to take to get Edwards Coverage
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:33 AM
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36. I'll keep my internet service though.
This is the only real place left to get any news anymore.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:16 AM
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35. ITA.
Go John go!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:24 AM
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13. Please please donate to John. He doesn't have the millions the others do. nt
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:56 AM
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14. Obama Over Hillary 41 to 28
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 08:35 AM by From The Left
That's the real story here. Last summer, the pundits, pollsters and assorted racists said Barack Obama didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of stopping the $100 million dollar Clinton machine but as of yesterday, Obama's up 41 to 28 over Clinton and Edwards has fallen even further behind.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:03 PM
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55. yes, that's a different and powerful story
but it's not the REAL story as you put it so causticly while pointing out that in 1 day's polling Edwards is further behind. THE REAL STORY, no matter how much you, however long you've really been on DU, and the MSM wish to ignore it is this - across the USA, JOHN EDWARDS is up a significant amount over an average of days, and you even are trying to suppress that news... so you kinda figure out what I'm saying to you, don't you? Don't you?
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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:26 PM
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75. Your right!!
OBAMA is going to crush everyone after tomorrow. Sorry John but your moment is OVER dude. Shillery back to the senate and Bill back to hunting whores.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:40 AM
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16. My two cents
which is Bush devalued. From here as well as talking at work, people are just now waking up to edwards. it might be the vacuum left by Hillary(which is a relief) that has them looking at choices in a different way. It might be the clarion strong message for some. That explains the growth and also the tragedy that is rather late and not enough and not together. Oddly it doesn't seem to matter if is the wonks on DU or the person getting the spin from the TV. The media HAS conditioned the response even on DU in a negative way. You can blame the media all you want but the wave of destiny, more than mere front runner status or big bucks, is beginning to build under Obama.

If part of Edward's success is that the fighting between Hillary and Obama has turned people away then their grounds for some "change" in momentum. With the completely dangerous frontloading of primaries(without changing some of the formats constructed for a more drawn out, chaotic and back and forth campaign) he would have to thread the eye of the needle in ways that if I listed them would strike people as possible but highly unlikely. Were this the old days, the top three candidates, the now disappeared favorite sons(states, regional), lower tier candidates would almost all survive to the convention and balance out platforms, constituencies, alliances and second thoughts. People who keep insisting how reformed we now(like the post AT&T phone monopoly days) have to explain how great it is we might have a "winner" before we even get to a state where registered Dems get one person one vote choice.

Unwisely, in my book, they revealed the wisdom of their very smart campaign as being that long before now, one of Edwards' rivals would have faded. Not only is the timing well past that ideal but he is engaged in a rear guard battle with Hillary. If only they hadn't let us in on that plan A strategy one might have maintained more speculative hope. Not winning Iowa shows the other two had gambled on the reduction theory as well and surprisingly blew one of themselves away instead. It had to happen. Edwards could not have gathered as much from an uncontested Iowa win as from the still undervalued second place.

The way it is now, my first argument that Edwards brings some power to the progressive agenda has less hope than his winning because delegate strength is given only to the winner in a system designed to make that happen and quickly- so that the main power one has is in swiftly surrendering self and delegates before the convention. It is very unlikely this time that any of the three, so locked and viable as they are, will choose the other for Veep.

What I expect to happen is that most party regulars, devoid of real progressives from the old days who would have been ahead of Edwards and whose surviving generation had been getting behind Hillary, will swiftly defect to Obama for a host of reasons, not least of which is his fiery campaign strength playing down the middle. Of course they could wait, but they have enough to know that Hillary, should she gut it out on sheer organization and attacks, has sealed November into vulnerability. The shell has been broken. The media is incapable of stopping its own frame and its exclusion of Edwards. Like 2004, that leaves the common choice of the people, which like then, leaves Edwards stuck just steps beyond the starting line and the Obama candidacy not really that bad(as Kerry's was). At worst, on balance in different things, Obama is as equal as Kerry and with just a few differences can swamp any GOP candidate, such as challenging in the South and harvesting Independents.

Earlier some blogs and groups backed Obama. There are no regrets now I take it. The Dean and DK super majorities on some sites went out like a candle in the mainstream wind. This time, if belatedly we have gotten our act together for Edwards it was from the impotent nature of strange divisions, the Quixotic search for purity, the quizzical fantasies about vote-getting, the constant nose to the MSM, that it is just another sign of too little too late.

So he will again have the incredibly impossible task of doing it himself, if he had a magical way to reach every American from the stump, in the mathematically slow process of winning minds against the clock, against the money and ads and fine competition, and against his shortcomings(every candidate has them last time I checked). He can do better than in 2004 and be sticking to it get a sizable delegate block. Unfortunately Hillary also will do the same if only to add hers to Obama's to keep the platform DLC correct and the Clintonian restoration alive in spirit.

...But there is a way Edwards can win though the schedule of the primary is against it. I would sound like another handicapping pundit if I keyboard quarterbacked this as a suggestion and so far I am sure he will try it without my .00002 cents. Unfortunately there are other things he has to as well that are
not in themselves going to help a victory.

This is no longer likely about a front runner or a message or mere momentum- although that would be advantageous enough. You have a very new magnetic powerful speaker starting to take on the "it" mantle on a very strong center theme and another just as able to do the same trying to compete with a message more specific and more fiery. Under a different primary system regardless of money disadvantages, etc, it would have been a royal battle indeed. It still might.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:12 AM
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18. that was at least three or four
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:04 PM
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69. The problem is that everywhere including DU, Kerry is trashed as being to the LEFT of Obama
And this is seen to be a bad thing by the people who abandoned Kerry (for winning/not winning, they couldn't get their stories straight) many of whom now support Obama. They never supported Kerry for being liberal (indeed, Kerry started out much less liberal and evolved into being more liberal, like Edwards). Obama has made quite clear he intends to go right from here in order to form a National Unity Government which will, e.g. paper over the Sibel Edmonds allegations, endorse the removal of public housing by Democratic allies in New Orleans, and commit other atrocities against the ideals of the Roosevelt era.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:12 AM
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19. Bill Clinton will have to drop out after NH...
That's what they said about Bill in 1992.

And he hardly went anywhere after that....

Go John!

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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:30 AM
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20. Go, John E., go!
excellent news
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:18 AM
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24. I agree. Go, John, go!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:36 AM
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21. And people want to say he's not viable after Iowa and NH...bull (n/t)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:03 AM
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23. It makes no sense at all to me...
but I've heard that same crap from so many people.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:22 AM
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25. Bull...after Obama wins by 10+ over Hillary in NH, Edwards will be forgotten.
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:05 AM
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32. If Edwards Wants to Stay
His best bet is to be Obama's Veep choice.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:07 PM
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70. I'm worried Obama move right, embracing Hillary supporters "Dem Strategist" and shutting out Edwards
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 09:14 PM by Leopolds Ghost
On the insistence of corporate Dem insiders who would otherwise shun Obama's campaign the way they shunned Kerry (partly for picking Edwards!!) Hillary supporters continue to shun and detest Kerry for being a conventional liberal and not a "fighter" by which they mean an alpha character who will keep us safe and stop with the self-recriminations (of criminality on both sides of the aisle.)
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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:33 PM
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77. YEP !
Edwards is already a "Dead Man Walking!"!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:59 AM
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22. Good.... Keep Going Strong John (nt)
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Mark D. Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:47 AM
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28. Real Clear Politics
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 10:56 AM by Mark D.
As another indicated, you can go here to see something important. The ONLY candidate in an average of ALL polls (which RCP has on its site, Google 'Real Clear Politics' (minus quotes) if you want to see it regularly) to beat EVERY GOP CANDIDATE in the general election is John Edwards. Clinton loses to McCain, Obama ties McCain. If you think the South did in McCain, over adopting an Indonesian child, imagine how they'll jump on Obama. We can be 'hopeful' but this is real.

The last 3 Democrats to win elections for the presidency were southern white men. Change would be nice, Obama has a shot to win still, yes, and he'd be a great president. But as said by my (also racially mixed, 1/2 white/black) girlfriend, America is more ready for a black VP than black President. We'd vote for Obama, you would to. The deep south? Also, John being older will be better for Obama as VP who will still be relatively young in 8 years of an Edwards/Obama presidency, and able to run with youth on his side then.

Clearly Obama ran for Senate to run for president. That's ok. John probably did that too. Clinton's a great Senator for NY so let's keep her there. Wes Clark would be a great VP but I think he'd be a better Secretary of Defense or State (though Richardson might be better as the latter). Biden of course, a great VP choice, great with his message too, but just not as popular as Obama, and doesn't represent change as much. Popularity shouldn't matter, but it still does.

When folks in a more old-fashioned state like Iowa (and this is not a bad thing, being old-fashioned in the right ways...) mostly turned out for change when voting overwhelming for a Democrat, well, it bides well in other states I would think. We need to win this. Anyone who saw the debate saw potential and likability in Obama, great for a VP to learn more on the job. Edwards showed he's ready to hit the ground running on Day 1 as he says. Enough experience, but not so much he won't appear a catalyst for change.

Hillary is ready too, but unlike Edwards, she will be running with Lobbyists attached, expecting the payback for their financing her way today. Like Kucinich said earlier "I'm not for sale". And neither is Edwards. It's possible to make a stink about him getting money for his campaign from trial lawyers. Like they don't have a right to contribute? Like they'd want to see consumers in the middle class (where they get 90% of their biz) vanish in the corporate controlled govt. scheme we see turning the US into a 3rd world country? NOT.

If a product you're using, made in China by slave labor, sold by the greedy bastards at WalMart (who Clinton was once helping be greedy) blows up and seriously injures you, who you gonna call? Trial Lawyers. End of story. They're the 'devil' until you need one. It's a case of folks scared by Edwards real potential, on the right, trying to make him 'bad' for being one at one time, or getting their donations. That and his hair, there's not much else they've got on Edwards.

The results are real. When the Democratic candidate polling nationally 3rd can beat all the GOP in a head to head polling average of all major polls, it says something. Imagine if he's first place or the choice as nominee. You get the idea, Edwards would simply be unstoppable. Remember last resort politics by the GOP. They try to do the 'nice stuff' first. Then they try to do the scare us with
terrorists routine. Last resort, in the crucial south? Racism/sexism. Edwards can be hurt by that. It's why the right-wing owned corporate media does NOT want to talk about him.

I too felt he could have done better against Cheney in the 2004 debate. But he surely did better than Lieberman and his shortfalls were since addressed. Clearly, given his ability to be forceful with allies like Clinton in the debate, he'll clean up whoever he's debating this time as a prez or VP candidate. Obviously, if Obama gets the nod, Edwards could be a good VP choice, as was really so obvious in the debate. That alliance wasn't just to edge out Hillary, they're thinking ahead.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:38 PM
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53. ITA
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 01:48 PM by AnneD
with the assessment-been saying it for a while now-Edwards is our best shot and a good candidate too. I like Obama a lot and in a cycle or two-he might be the one-but right now, it's Edwards. We are going to be going through some tough times. Edwards has been through tough times and it has changed him for the better. I trust him to do the right things. I haven't felt that way in a while.


Edited to add that to some of us-this jump in the polls is not suprising. Edwards has been repeatedly ignored-even though he has good feedback. They really can't continue to ignore him much longer. Once folks look at him, they generally like him, esp independents. Even conservative can tolerate him. The only folks that can't abide him are the folks that want the status quo: Big Business, MSM, and the politicians that are owned by Big Business.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:13 PM
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71. I hope you're right, because Obama/Edwards or vice versa would be formidable.
Unfortunately I suspect many of Obama's "insider" supporters would string him up (metaphorically speaking) like they did to Kerry (and Gore) for adopting a populist message late in the campaign and by choosing Edwards as VP.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:51 AM
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29. Isn't politics is about trends?
I've heard a lot of pundits say that it doesn't matter so much where the candidates are in the polls, but where they're heading.

I like where Edwards is heading.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:12 AM
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34. Trends definitely tell more than static numbers captured at whatever point.
I like this trend VERY much. :)
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:04 AM
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31. Edwards As Obama's Veep
In the latest USA Today/Gallup, Edwards has actually lost points to both Obama and the Borg Queen. His best hope to spread his populist message is to strike a deal with Obama, if Obama selects him to be his running mate.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:11 AM
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33. Not a coronation! n/t
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:48 AM
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37. Follow The MONEY and It's a Simple Choice
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 11:49 AM by Phred42
It's Simple -
just review the donors list for each of the Candidate. THAT will tell you who they bend over for.




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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:52 AM
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38. Despite All Odds... Maybe America Is FINALLY Listening To This
man! Despite MSM and their efforts to PUSH the "chosen" MAYBE America is FINALLY listening to this MAN!

Please let the SURGE continue... the Man For America NOW!!!!

Go, Johnny, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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johnp Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:57 AM
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39. I would never vote for Edwards because I don't like his hair
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:14 PM
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44. Huh?
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:16 PM
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72. He looks French n/t
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:05 PM
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40. The media is doing a whole lot of damage.
The other two top candidates should feel some kind of shame for being propped up by the corporate run media while Edwards is being for the most part left out. I am thoroughly disgusted by this. I hope enough people see through this sham and wipe the stars out of their eyes and place their vote for real change. The corporate stranglehold vs. our freedoms are what is really at stake here. How obvious does it have to get that the M$M is channeling public opinion into votes that will ultimately lead to further corporate manipulation of us? Where is mention of Edwards being a viable candidate in this race? We will see how much Americans are either fooled by this game, or aware of what is really going on here. These national polling numbers show at least some awareness of Edwards' acceptance as a viable candidate despite the media blackout.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:09 PM
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41. K and R
Best news I've had for a long time! Go John Go!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:12 PM
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42. I'm very happy to see this, and it comes as NO SURPRISE WHATSOEVER to me.
The MSM is trying to ignore Edwards, but WE THE PEOPLE are paying close attention to his genuinely progressive message. He's a man with a plan, and Americans, when they HEAR about his plan, like what they hear.

Shout it out from the rooftops, people!!!!! Johnny's the one!!!!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:13 PM
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43. Swaweet!
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:36 PM
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45. If Edwards loses
Then I would like to see him as Attorney General. Remember when Bobby Kennedy went after Hoffa? Edwards would go after corporate crime. And even though he says impeachment would be too painful he's never said it's off the table. Though he has claimed the Bush administration had been criminal.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:40 PM
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46. You can't cherry pick the polls
I love John but if your going to read the polls you can't just read the ones you like. Rasmussen also has John at 18% in NH and 17% in SC.

http://www.pollster.com/08-NH-Dem-Pres-Primary.php

The reality is at this point is that national polls don't mean much or Guilliani and Clinton would have it all sewn up.

There is no scenario out there where John can go down from what he did in Iowa in NH and SC and win. He must place second in one or both of these states and that is getting more and more remote.

I am still giving to John and hope he wins but if he comes in third two more times alot of other people will stop giving. It looks like the fat lady is in the parking lot.
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:26 PM
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51. There´s always hope on Super Tuesday +
at any rate by JRE staying in the race he can at least influence the platform. We´ll see. I am an avid supporter of JRE & EE too and I am glad he´s staying in the race.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:46 PM
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48. America is listening....
Even if M$M doesn't want them to.
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:14 PM
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49. Edwards will still lose..
He should endorse Obama and gun for the #2 slot like he did last time.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:20 PM
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50. Your own TahitiNut (me!) was telephone-polled by Rasmussen on 1/6 (yesterday)
Yes, DU, there is a Santa Claus ... and actual telephone polling that is used (in some way) to provide these numbers.

It was an automated ... punch the number ... poll. It took about 10 minutes.

:hi:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:08 PM
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56. that's SWEET!
YAY! You definitely effected those numbers, thank you!

:hi:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:14 PM
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58. It was a bit of a kick. It's a 4-day rolling poll, so my answers will last for 4 days.
It was actually a relatively reasonable poll ... very little of the "push poll" smell. I can't, of course, witness the manner in whiich the results are 'massaged' but I can say that the questions were reasonable and the menu of repsonses were as well.

There was one exception. The first question was about how I rated the job Smirk was doing ... and the only responses offered were "excellent," "good." "average," and "poor." So ... I was required to over-rate him as "poor."

I wish they'd included "abysmal" or "atrocious." Oh well. :shrug:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:43 PM
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65. LOL
yes, TahitiNut, why wasn't "Impeachable" an option on the Shrub question! HA
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:01 PM
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54. There's no need to fear. Underdog is here!
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Gen. Jack D. Ripper Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:10 PM
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57. I want Edwards to get the nomination, but if he doesn't
and the nomination goes to Obama, I'm looking forward to an Obama-Edwards ticket.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:25 PM
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60. Hear, hear.
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 02:26 PM by utopiansecretagent
Go Edwards!

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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:25 PM
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73. OBAMA WAVE
I agree. I don't think John is going to win. I'm resigned to OBAMA being the nominee. Edwards has been essentially frozen out by the MSM on orders from Cotpiracy central. You talk against the evil empire and u die.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:37 PM
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62. Very cool!
I hope it keeps going up.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:53 PM
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64. It was just a glitch
The Rasmussen bounces around. Edwards is back at 20% today. Hillary dropped to 33% and Obama's up to 29%. That's more in line with what could be expected.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:46 PM
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67. Kick! nt
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whatdoyouthink Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:25 PM
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74. I really think this will go down to the wire
I think Obama - will peak say in a week or two - then level out and downward some - right before Super Tue - then up for grabs


Vote for John Edwards 2008
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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:29 PM
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76. NOPE YOUR WRONG!
OBAMA will smash them all after tomorrow. The public wants a totally NEW team in DC and Shillery is finished as is JE. JE got his shot in 2004 and no offense but he didn't even manage to deliver N.C. for Kerry. He's finished.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:37 PM
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78. nope you are wrong(nt)
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:39 AM
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82. Get Your Grammar On Dude That Is You're Wrong Not Your
Edwards is going to kick ass in NH. Nice to see you so active on the board after signing up. :sarcasm: So now you are here telling us who will smash whom... GET LOST.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:52 AM
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79. It's too bad that he still won't get any press out of this
I rarely like to blame it all on the media, because I often find it lazy, but Edwards just can't seem to get ANY coverage even after beating Hillary in Iowa.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:41 AM
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81. Thank you for this very important info
that the corporate media will not cover. They are trying to make a ghost of Edwards. Lets face it folks corporate America will lose its free caviar and champagne lunch at our expense if Edwards is elected.
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