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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:54 AM
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CNN Poll: Approval of war in Iraq, Bush remain low
Source: CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Americans' opinion on the Iraq war and of President Bush has remained stable — and fairly negative — over the past few weeks, a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll out Saturday evening suggests.

Only 33 percent of Americans favor the war in Iraq, according to a just released poll. In a similar poll taken in December, that number stood at 31 percent.

The poll also suggests only 32 percent of Americans approve of how Bush is handling his job as president. That number is the same as it was last month....

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/12/poll-approval-of-war-in-iraq-bush-remain-low/
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:56 AM
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1. We have got to do something about this deluge of polls
There are too many polls.

Poll control legislation is a must.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:01 PM
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2. they just keep calling the same 24 people who still support him..
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:03 PM
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5. Polls are an improvement over such unfounded opinions.
Your source is?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:02 PM
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4. Let's make more of an effort to educate people about what polls really are
and how they work. This would make polls more instructive than they are at present.

Perhaps there should be legislation that requires a disclaimer similar to that on a package of cigarettes.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:21 PM
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8. you're joking right?
Polling is a form of reserach. As a scientist, I'd be pretty pissed if you drafted legislation to prevent me from statistically sampling in my field of study.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:49 PM
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11. I agree TEASER
Legislation to control polling? Sounds like something the Bush administration would want to do.

If you don't like polls, don't read them.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:01 PM
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3. Vast majority of Americans still think Pope is "likely to be Catholic". nt
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:59 PM
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6. Bush is the Savior of the Middle-East! After he returns from his "Save My Legacy Tour" ...
...he'll SURGE to 35%!

Then when the Recession takes firm hold he'll drop to 17%

Sorry, Karl. He's the Worst President in History and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:36 AM
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23. last week the prediction was that he would leave office at 40%
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:05 PM
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7. Dems will win in November
No one who is still talking about the benefits of the war in Iraq will win an election.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:44 PM
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10. why so confident?
Two of the people running on the Dem side voted for this illegal and incredibly unpopular war. Another candidate has continually voted to fund it. We're in for trouble if we think everyone's just going to overlook those inconvenient facts when it comes time to vote.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:04 PM
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12. Facts are still on our side
You have a point, but as long as Republicans are still talking about the how wonderful the surge is we will come out looking better. It's still something we have to spin (or cover up) but I do feel like the dems are in a better position on this issue.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:44 PM
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14. Only a slightly better position.
With the exception of McCain, the positions on the war held by the big name Dems and big name Republicans aren't all that different, though the rhetoric used to sell them are. If such a vast majority disapprove of this war, they can't all be Democratic voters, and with some of the positions Democrats hold on the war, why should they be? We can't just take these votes for granted.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:29 PM
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19. Right, don't take them for granted
work hard to convince the voters dems are right, but I'm still feeling pretty good. I'll take where we are compared to where the republicans are any day.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:13 AM
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20. same here
Dems, even the ones who I disagree with, have a better stance on everything. The mistake would be to act as if the only differences were on issues such as the war, while letting other issues that have a greater day-to-day effect on most americans lives go unnoticed.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:23 PM
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25. Polls are showing that the economy is the No. 1 concern
If those polls are accurate, then people aren't thinking about the war as much. I suspect that this is because it is so universally unpopular that people have made up their minds that it's going down the tubes.

The Clinton campaign was very smart in coming up with a package to deal with the subprime mortgage crisis. I'm not a homeowner and I haven't read up too much on her stimulus package, but that is going to be the right idea for a lot of people.

Campaigns are a lot of hard work and we can't get lazy and assume that people agree with us based on polling data.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:40 PM
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26. I'm also not a home owner
and I think these 'stimulus' packages are really rather silly - short term fixes as best. What I'd really like to see (not counting single-payer universal healthcare, which should be priority #1) is a push for a minimum wage that a worker could actually live on, and a complete over hall of the tax code, making it truly progressive. I think if those things were done, stimulus packages wouldn't need to exist.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:55 PM
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27. I live in San Francisco
Home of the no down payment and crazy interest home loan. It seems to me that this subprime crisis is a result of people losing their F'ing minds and buying houses they knew that they couldn't afford. The market reacted accordingly and prices went up because demand was so high. Developers started building expensive homes because there's a greater markup for luxury and people bought them during the mania. Now we're paying the price.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:44 PM
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28. I don't really have a lot of sympathy for people dumb enough to get involved in this mortgage scam
People who can't afford houses shouldn't buy them. From some things I've read though, it seems that lenders were actually lying to buyers to try to get them to take out loans, which is completely wrong. When I lived in LA a few years ago, some of my friends rented a house from a guy who had bought it as an investment who was trying to sell it the whole time they were there. The eventual buyer was the original owner who was again buying as an investment, because he consider that house to be "good luck".... no one ever wanted to live in that over-priced piece of crap. I'm sure someone has lost an awful lot of money on that shit-house by now.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:48 PM
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29. I'm the first to admit that I don't know a lot about this
The term predatory lending rings a bell.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:35 PM
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9. Gonna be hard to get up to that 45% the White House seems to think W will by next year
there was a story this week that they think W will get back up to 45% (higher than Reagan at least) before leaving office.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:06 PM
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13. that 45% is his eulogy
The bump you get from people not wanting to piss on the man's political grave.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:06 PM
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15. Note: 66 percent disapprove,,,most ever...
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 03:07 PM by Stuart G
Only twice before have as many as 66 disapproved of the job Bush is doing as President.. 66 is the highest non approval rating with Bush and this poll reaffirms this now

The liar in chief has no cloths and 2/3 know it...here is a link for all to see progress of this wonderful trend.....
and most poll results over the last few years..........................Stuart G.

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:09 PM
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16. Where do they find these people?
If even 32% here like monkey man is it any wonder we're going down the toilet?
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:28 PM
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18.  It is simple..........they find them in the mirror
..It is my guess that between 25 and 30 percent of the people in this country are:
..........A. very stupid, and ignorant about world affairs..
.........B. are habitual and compulsive liars like the Chimp.
..........C. support Republicans no matter what..
Let's say..10 percent are stupid, and 12 percent are habitual and compulsive liars, and 10 percent support The RePugs no matter what...
add em up and you got 32 percent........cut it anyway you want..you still get a number of people who don't know a liar from a fryer, or forest fire.......Stuart G.
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mallard Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:02 AM
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24. I think many of them are on the food chain ...
... as far as the war budget goes.

It's not as though all that money really goes to troops and/or Iraq per se.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:19 PM
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17. As Garrison Keillor once said, "These are the same people who think Noah and his family rode to
church on a dinosaur." So consider the source.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:25 AM
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21. It doesn't matter.
Bush doesn't care what people think,
and neither do the corporations.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:28 AM
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22. What made it go up to 33? The belly dancers? Holding hands with sheiks?
he used ti be in the 20s for a long time now...sheesh!
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