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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:43 AM Original message |
Jet crashes into home; mother, grandmother, child killed |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. My Question |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. With 3 dead on the ground and a missing child... |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. For your education... |
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unhappycamper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. According to the Navy Times |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. he was over water with one engine still working |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. OMG.... |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. a typical military response will be |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Yep... |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. A few things... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. The big concrete runways were built in 1943, the base has been military since 1917 |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. The pilot and whoever directed him back over land.... |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. So why are you pissed off at them? |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Less loss of life if kept over water. |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I am sure if they KNEW... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. Our lives all hang by threads that may be broken at any time, so life is precious. |
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Phoonzang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. That is a random and odd way to die. |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. That depends. I live 2 miles from my airport and planes routinely fly over my house. |
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Phoonzang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yeah where I grew up I was right over the landing path for Hobby Airport |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. The landing corridor for the San Diego airport used to go right over my neighborhood |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
45. I work in an office park across the highway from Dobbins |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. I have thought of this |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
6. Why in the hell where they checking out this plane using a young pilot... |
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Lex1775 (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Depending on how long he has been flying... |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Look at the squadron... |
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Lex1775 (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
46. He was the only one in the plane. |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. That's not the case at all... |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
12. The video links on this page are incredible... |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. think of the jet fuel |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. This is going to be a total mess to try and clean up. |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
18. Shouldn't all military pilots have as standing orders to avoid dumping their aircraft onto |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I am sure that I am gonna be jumped on for this reply to you... |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Your second statement is correct... |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I think the plane was not controllable. If it was he would have landed at Miramar. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. He was unable even to put it down in Rose Canyon right next to the base |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Here's how things work... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Thanks for your service and your commentary |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. Good post |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
19. I've lived in San Diego since 1962 - We have about one crash of a military aircraft per year |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
48. Oh, so they are the ones responsible for the crowding. See my |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I've been fighting to preserve open space for almost 40 years |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. Such a tragedy...3 generations dead |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. My first reaction to your post was, "Guilt? Why the hell should he feel guilty?" |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. I'm sure the pilot will feel bittersweet... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I has teh dumbth. |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. True.. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Thx for input. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. Well four people are dead. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #54 |
61. I would not want to be in that pilot's shoes right now |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Evidently the pilot was very shaken up and his first thought was for what and whom the plane hit |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
47. Flight training should take place in nowheresville, IMO. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Miramar was the middle of fucking nowhere for most of its existence |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. So all the restrictions were lifted or nonexistant to begin with. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Treating it as a nature preserve would have accomplished the same goal |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 05:51 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. You're assuming... |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. You're not telling me anything I didn't already know. |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. You're not telling me anything I didn't already know either... |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Most of the commercial pilots I had met over the years are former |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Things have changed a bit |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. You're not telling me anything I didn't already know either... |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 06:21 AM Response to Reply #49 |
59. I am a big believer that the areas surrounding airfields |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Here's another interesting tidbit - Consultants warned the city about this in 1979 |
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bdab1973 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 05:14 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Apples and oranges... |
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Eugene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
51. AP: Congressional aide says crashed jet lost power |
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ericgtr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. Here is the statement from the surviving member |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 05:17 AM Response to Original message |
57. More accurate info here: |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
65. Link to today's SDUnionTribune. Really sad... |
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