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JudyInTheHeartland Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:58 AM
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House Arrest for Madoff in $7 Million Apartment
Source: ABC

House Arrest for Madoff in $7 Million Apartment
Park Avenue Instead of Jail for Man Accused of Historic $50 Billion Fraud
By RICHARD ESPOSITO and BRIAN ROSS

Dec. 17, 2008—

Bernard Madoff, accused of the largest fraud in U.S. history, will be allowed to remain in his $7 million Park Avenue apartment instead of being sent to jail, under terms of an agreement announced today by federal prosecutors.

Madoff was unable to meet the bond conditions set last week by a federal magistrate which required him to get four people to sign his personal recognizance bond.

According to the U.S. Attorney's office, only Madoff's wife and brothers were willing to sign the document.

But instead of ordering him held in jail, prosecutors agreed to home detention with electronic monitoring.

Madoff and his luxury apartment on Manhattan's upper east side will be fitted with an electronic monitoring device by the court's pre-trial services and Madoff will be under a curfew of between 7 p.m. through 9 a.m.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/Story?id=6480363&page=1
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:02 PM
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1. Steal $50 billion and still be able to sleep each night in your $7 million penthouse
Damn must be nice
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:04 PM
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3. Bullshit. Throw his ass in with the other criminals! 50 Billion lost!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:41 PM
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16. Due process of law?
I know these sorts of things seem quaint after Bushco, but let our judicial process do its thing.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:53 PM
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20. Since when is "due process" allowing someone to go without posting bond?
Nice try, though
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:55 PM
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21. Because the prosecutors agreed?
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 12:56 PM by high density
Yeah, elites get better treatment in our country. What's new?
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:58 PM
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22. That isn't due process and thats not equality
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:21 PM
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30. Not to mention confessing when the cops show up. If he were poor
they'd have kicked in his door in riot gear and left his ass in jail for as long as it took.

All pigs are equal, some just more equal than others.

After what we just saw in Detroit vs Citibank, et al - maybe we should talk about White Collar Crime and Blue Collar crime - the lines seem to divide out the same way
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:41 PM
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32. "...they'd have kicked in his door in riot gear ..."
I thought the same thing when I heard on the BBC how he was treated very courteously, even to the point the feds didn't want to bother the other family members.

I thought, "Yeah, steal $50 billion and receive kid-glove treatment. Steal $50 and watch as the cops kick in your door, haul you away in handcuffs no matter how you're dressed, and to Hell with the other family members!"
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:03 PM
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2. Murkasey's influence? No bail needed, no jail. Just go home
and be a good boy from now on.
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JudyInTheHeartland Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:46 PM
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29. Revealed: Mukasey's Synagogue a Victim of Madoff
http://cityfile.com/dailyfile/3530

Moments ago, U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey confirmed that he will be recusing himself from the ongoing investigation into Bernie Madoff. The Justice Department didn't specify a specific reason for his decision to step aside—early reports have suggested that Mukasey's son, Marc, may be planning to represent a defendant in the case. But we can report a much more likely—and personal—reason why the Madoff case poses a serious conflict for the AG. Mukasey's own synagogue was ripped off by Bernie Madoff's Ponzi scheme.

On the list of organizations that suffered Madoff-related losses is Congregation Kehilath Jeshurun on the Upper East Side, the synagogue that Mukasey has been attending for years and an institution that reported that it had invested $3.5 million with Madoff. The Jewish day school affiliated with KJ, Ramaz, has suffered losses as welll: The school reported having $6.5 million in Madoff accounts earlier this week. Mukasey, we've been told, has been attending the synagogue for decades, a fact confirmed in a 2007 interview with Rabbi Haskel Lookstein, with oversees both KJ and Ramaz, in the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz: "He hasn't missed a single prayer during the High Holidays. "He might skip a prayer here and there, but he's a believer and a devout Jew." He goes on to point out that he also happened to be Mukasey's summer camp counselor when the two were kids. Now that certainly sounds like a sensible reason for Mukasey to step aside, doesn't it?
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:04 PM
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4. Why isn't this guy in jail, like every other thief. This country is incredibly corrupt!
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 12:06 PM by demo dutch
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:07 PM
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6. maybe because mukasey''s son is his lawyer?
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:44 PM
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17. Where'd you hear that?
I thought his son was representing one of Madoff's defrauded investors?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:53 PM
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34. The son is representing Madoff's CFO Frank DiPascali
As the chief financial guy, DiPascali is rumored to have assisted Madoff in the scheme.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 05:08 PM
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38. no. Mukasey had to recuse himself from the case because of his son. don't know where I read i, sorry
but try googling mukasey and recuse. It was within the past 24 hours.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:05 PM
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5. Isn't jail part of the deal?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:49 PM
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33. It was, but Madoff couldn't get four people to vouch for him
so instead of being out on bond he is under house arrest.

The rules are a bit different in the world of the elite.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:13 PM
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7. Remember, if you decide to steal, steal BIG. Like they always
say, if you gotta go, go FEDERAL. Hell, in this case they'll let you sleep in your own bed.

But there is some justice here. He ripped off a lot of rich people.
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:17 PM
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8. Another rich dirty stealing parasite just like Bush and Cheney.
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JudyInTheHeartland Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:19 PM
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9. Does anyone know how to look up which candidates he gave $$ to?
I'd love to know which Republo-thugs he has in his pocket.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:22 PM
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11. Be careful what you ask for
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:45 PM
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18. His Jewish background had me...
thinking this would be the case. Ugh.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:23 PM
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12. He's given a pretty penny to Democrats.
I haven't seen a list of contributions to Republicans.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:22 PM
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10. He Should Be Hanging From A Lamp Post.
Treasonous f'ing bastard!

Jay
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:56 PM
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37. What he did pales in the face of what bush/cheney did. nm
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:26 PM
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13. chappelle did a great skit on this type of double-standard..
our "justice" system is damn joke.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:27 PM
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14. of course, had he robbed a 7-11 or gas station for $250
he would have been in the tank from the beginning
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:40 PM
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15. Just proves financial thieves wear D's & R's on their
sweaters..
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:46 PM
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19. I'll play devi's advocate a bit here....
Armed robbery is always treated differently. Unfortunately, this is a white collar crime.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:59 PM
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24. You've Got To Be Kidding?
How about possession of rock cocaine? ..and why are you playing DA? He doesn't deserve the effort of thought.

Jay
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:01 PM
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25. Just talking about the law....
Bail is also set based on danger to society and flight risk. Is isn't meant as part of the punishment phase. I won't be outraged until he gets off at trial.
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hoboken123 Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:04 PM
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35. yep
That's what I came here to say.

The concern I'd have is the potential flight risk.
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:58 PM
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23. unbelievable! Oh wait.... believable... sadly
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:08 PM
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26. Home detention on Park Avenue? Come back, Abu Grhaib, all is forgiven
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 01:11 PM by rocknation
Reminds me of when Martha Stewart got home detention on her 23-acre estate, and the judge had the nerve to have a hissy fit when he learned that Martha dared to go jogging on her own property. And he's NOT a flight risk?

:eyes:
rocknation
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:27 PM
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27. Insane. They're baiting us.
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 01:31 PM by Loge23
They seem to be just tempting the people towards an uprising.
Perhaps Madoff (or one of his servants) can throw us all some cake from his balcony.
Billions stolen and no jail. We are so done.

There's an estimated 500,000 non-violent drug offenders in U.S. prisons. Many have had their assets confiscated. When will the people of this country stand up for equal justice?
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:27 PM
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28. Poor baby - how could he STAND to be locked up in that tiny little apartment?
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judesedit Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:33 PM
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31. THAT'S BULLCRAP!
This is justice?? A poor person steals food or clothes for his kids and he is humiliated, pays a large fine, goes to jail for a year and has probation for 3 to 5. If a single parent, probably loses the kids, loses their home because there's noone to pay the rent, etc. etc. These major thieves get slapped on the wrist, after stealing billions. Sounds to me like the prosecutors have some skeletons of their own. Vote all of these crooks out of office. It is time for real justice to take over in this country. Madoff will have to have plastic surgery to even be able to walk around in public in this country and probably others ever again. People take losing millions of dollars kind of personally and semi-automatic weapons are legal. Look out, Madoff. You've done pissed some people off. Hope you have a real nice place since you'll be in there 24/7 for the rest of your life.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:54 PM
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36. Why is everybody picking on Madoff?? Paulson did exactly the same thing for trillions.
Some call it a bubble, some call it a pyramid scheme and some call it a Ponzi scheme. Why isn't Paulson under house arrest?
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 10:20 PM
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39. That's it. I'm starting my own Ponzi Scheme.
Just imagine. Mr. Made-Off with the money set up his Ponzi Scheme. Raked in the dough for over 20 years. When it all came tumbling down, I've read that Made-Off siphoned off around $200 million and gave to staffers as Year-End BONUSES. Then, he took a big chunk of change (maybre $300 million maybe more) and sent it to unnumbered bank accounts. To be claimed by the family later, when the heat is off.

It's pretty clear: pull off a multi-billion dollar heist, and you will walk free.

Did you see the photo of Made-Off today, as he was walking back to his $7 million dollar condo? He looked happy. I bet he's going out Xmas Shopping tonite.
:smoke:

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