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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:34 AM
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Skeptical Iraqis Begin to Accept Death of Saddam Hussein's Sons
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAAQ8H7RID.html


Skeptical Iraqis Begin to Accept Death of Saddam Hussein's Sons
By D'arcy Doran Associated Press Writer
Published: Jul 30, 2003

TIKRIT, Iraq (AP) - Skeptical Iraqis began to accept that Saddam Hussein's sons Odai and Qusai were dead after a new audiotape attributed to the fallen dictator acknowledged his sons had become martyrs in the fight against American occupation. During a patrol in Tikrit early Wednesday, U.S. forces came across a black flag strung up in front of a local government building. The writing mourned the passing of Odai and Qusai. <snip>


MY Comment: if the tin foil hat folks are correct about Saddam and the kids being caught in May - and unfrozen as needed by Rove - the CIA tape of Saddam crying about their deaths is working to convince the Iraqis that they are dead. But the Reuters "heavy makeup / recontructed bodies/faces on charred bodies via undertaker clay" make one wonder if anything Bush says is true.


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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 07:20 AM
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1. Right on cue
Isn't that just so cooperative of Saddam, to issue an audio tape to confirm the death of his sons. Funny, how he didn't even sound that po'd at the US for killing his sons.
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dwillison Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 07:59 AM
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3. Didn't he try to have one of them killed himself? Isn't that
why one was wheel-chair bound?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:22 AM
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5. One had been injured
in an assination attempt, but I have never heard about Saddam being behind. Trust me, if Saddam wanted to be rid of his son, he would be coffin bound, not wheel chair bound.
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 07:56 AM
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2. But you know what, there still are no WMD
And the thing does not seem to be going away very quickly. I think right now they have 50-50 and phone a friend left. If the issue of the SOTU does not go away and they run out of people to catch or kill , they what will they do to change the subject, or get ratings up?
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mjb4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:21 AM
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4. are americans really stupid?
I know I have been saying this for 3 years now, but are they REALLY stupid? Bush numbers in the tank and there you have Uday and Qusay. And to convince the Iraqi's you have saddam. Early in May Saddam and Uday were trying to surrender. Saddam was said to be incoherrent.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:25 AM
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6. If Bush had these guys on ice to release any time
he sure wouldn't pick now in late summer when the largest number of people are on vacations.

He'd have one son killed during the Democratic convention, another killed during the first debate, and Saddam killed the weekend before the election.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:51 AM
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7. LOL @ the hussein boys dead? Riiiight... a friend of mine says it well
here....


Never mind, for example, that it is extremely unlikely that the Hussein brothers would be holed up in a Kurdish stronghold, where they are, according to Team Bush, universally despised. Never mind that it is equally unlikely that the pair would be holed up, together, in an unsecured location with no means of escape. Never mind as well that it is very unlikely that, between the two of them, they had just a single guard. Never mind that it is unlikely that the two would seek refuge in the home of a man who apparently sometimes claimed to be a relative, but actually was not. And never mind that that home has already been bulldozed, thus destroying all evidence of what happened there.

Never mind as well that neither Hussein brother was known to wear a full beard. That new look, according to U.S. officials, was part of their disguises. And that is a reasonable enough claim, I suppose, but is it also reasonable to assume that the two have been on a three-month feeding frenzy in order to pack on some extra pounds, also as part of their disguises? And never mind, I should add here, that the corpse identified as Uday appears to be sporting a beard that was created with a black magic marker. And never mind that we are left to conclude that the extra weight and facial hair enabled the two to live unrecognized in enemy territory, but will not prevent their corpses from being identified by the Iraqi people.

Never mind that officials at the scene of the firefight initially said that the recovered bodies were too badly damaged to be visually
identified, which would be expected given the firepower that was
unleashed upon them, but which was, nonetheless, directly contradicted by the release of the photos. And never mind that while Team Bush claims that captured Iraqi officials have positively identified the bodies, those same alleged officials have never been paraded before the Iraqi people, or the American people, despite claims that such displays are necessary to reassure everyone that the old regime is no longer in charge.

Never mind that no attempt was made to take the Hussein brothers alive, despite the fact that the real Uday and Kusai would be invaluable intelligence assets, since they presumably know where all the bodies are buried, and where all the mythical WMDs are hidden, and where all then fugitive Baathists, including their father, are in hiding. And never mind that live prisoners would have been far more convincing than photographic images of mutilated corpses. And never mind that it is decidedly more difficult to pass off a live impersonator than it is to falsely identify an altered corpse.

And never mind, finally, that there is something seriously wrong with
the claim that it took 200 or more of Rummy's best fighting men - armed with state-of-the-art missiles, grenades and guns, and accompanied by the world's most deadly helicopters, airplanes and tanks - several hours and millions of dollars worth of munitions to defeat an enemy force of two able-bodied adults, one disabled adult and one young teenager, armed only with AK-47s and pinned down in what could hardly be described (and yet still was) as a fortified location.

Never mind all of that because the Bushmen do not lie, so if they claim to have slain a couple of dragons, then it must be true. And if they claim that doing so marked a major turning point in 'post-war' operations, then that must be true as well. Clearly, we are winning the War on Terr'ism. America is standing tall.


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