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Ed Barrow Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:28 PM
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Sheriff Joe Arpaio teams up with Arizona pol to plan a new 'tent city' for illegal immigration
Source: New York Daily News

The controversial Phoenix-area sheriff has teamed up with Arizona State Treasurer and candidate for governor Dean Martin to introduce an ambitious new plan for border security.

The Zero Tolerance plan includes a border fence and enhanced security, but proposes stronger detention policies than Martin's Republican rival, Gov. Jan Brewer.

Martin envisions a tent city to house the influx of illegal aliens expected to be arrested once the state's tough new immigration law goes into effect.

"I will work with Sheriff Joe to establish a statewide tent city specifically to house illegal aliens convicted of crimes in Arizona," Martin's plan reads.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/06/09/2010-06-09_sheriff_joe_arpaio_teams_up_with_arizona_pol_to_plan_a_new_tent_city_for_illegal.html
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:30 PM
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1. Concentration camp ?
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:40 PM
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5. I don't think that
anyone ever climbed over a fence to get into a concentration camp. That's a very fucked up post.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:43 PM
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6. The people that will be interned in that tent city will not do so out of their own accord...
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 07:44 PM by liberation
... the only think fucked up is your "logic"
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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:46 PM
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8. +1
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:48 PM
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9. Comparing the holocaust
to illegal immigrants that have criminal records is ok with your fucked up logic?
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bloomington-lib Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:24 PM
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22. I didn't hear him compare it to the holocaust
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 10:28 PM by bloomington-lib
There has been more than more group that's been put in concentration camps in our history. Japanese for example. Finding a group of people and confining them into makeshift prisons is a concentration camp. You can say they broke the law but when the photos taken of them show only latinos, no eastern Europeans or any other white people, shit will hit the fan in this country as far as race relations go. You can't deny that.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:07 PM
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23. Shooting to kill teenagers for throwing rocks is okay with your fucked up logic...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8526000&mesg_id=8526336

And as the other poster pointed out, nobody compared the tent city to the Holocaust. Nice strawman. You do realize that concentration camps existed before the Holocaust, and they've been used since then as well?
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 11:42 AM
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40. Most likely to be like the concentrations camps of 1933
they were different to the ones put in service by 1942
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 07:18 PM
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42. The Nazis didn't invent concentration camps, the British did
During the Boer War, the british rounded up boer women and children into concentrations camps. About 15-20000 died in those camps.

Didn't hear the holocaust mentioned once in his post. And they haven't installed showers or ovens yet.

I just see in your post another justification for brutalizing Mexicans by minimizing what will happen to them in these camps.
I'm sure in your eyes, every undocumented alien is some sort of Al Capone/Tony Montana super-criminal deserving of maximum brutality.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:35 PM
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17. The way Arpaio runs it, it can also be called a death camp on occasion.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:59 PM
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34. Sounds like they will be treated the same as US Citizens...
Who reside in Arpaio's tent city jail. If it's good enough for American criminals - which it is - then it's good enough for criminal aliens.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:31 AM
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38. it isn't good for either. nt
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tqla Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:38 PM
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2. Will this effen stupid law be stopped in federal court already?
Geezus Hurry up White House!
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:39 PM
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3. why isn't this asshole in jail yet?
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:45 PM
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7. Because he is the law?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:54 PM
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10. he should have been indicted on corruption charges by now
saw stories from earlier this year about grand jury investigations
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:59 PM
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11. The asshole we all
know as sheriff joe keeps getting voted in by Arizona residents. They must like him.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:22 PM
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16. They do like him.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:38 AM
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30. I don't!
I hate him!
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:23 AM
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37. NOT ALL OF US LIKE HIM!!
Sheesh.

There ARE Dems & liberals here...even some progressives,too.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:38 PM
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24. ONLY in fucked up right-wing Maricopa county
populated with the worst of the worst white bigots!!!

Even here in fucked up New Mississippi (arizona) Maricopa is an outlier...
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:40 PM
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4. Every time I hear about Sheriff Joe, it sounds like he is almost ready to be
walked away in handcuffs. What is the latest?
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dhill926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:06 PM
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12. why waste valuable state resources on housing them.....
in tents. Just shoot them. Goddamn this shit is fucked up.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:08 PM
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13. Whats next?
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 08:20 PM by AsahinaKimi
Are they going to re open and use the old Japanese interment camps like Gila River?
:sarcasm:


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:45 PM
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:40 PM
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25. There was a time
when tea-bagger racist bullshit like this wouldn't have appeared on DU ...

Unless followed by a quick tombstone...

Alas, here in the USAmerikan racist Empire your drivel seems to be becoming the norm...
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:41 PM
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26. Actually, Gila River was a paradise
compared to fascist joe arpaio's death camps...
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:30 AM
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29. exactly right
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 02:32 AM by AsahinaKimi
AND FOR THE RECORD..I would bring them into my home. Maybe Berserker should read what it says on the Statue of Liberty? IF you don't know, Google it.
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Vincent441 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:13 AM
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31. all the people that came from Ellis Island came here legally
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:54 PM
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35. The ones checking their papers on the Island were the descendents of "illegals" (n/t)
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:08 PM
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14. Only in their DREAMS
Let's be realistic. Martin doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the GOP nomination against Brewer--he's just pandering for attention for his doomed campaign.

The race in the general will have Goddard, the almost-certain Dem nominee and current Attorney General, squaring off against Brewer, the incumbent Governor.

And, who knows--Sheriff Joe might even be indicted by that time.:)
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:10 PM
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15. 115 in the shade. Joe is really quite a piece of work.
I hope he likes the heat himself. I heard hell has some pretty warm locales.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:43 PM
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18. And here the right wing thinks Obama is preparing concentration camps.
No, the camps are going to be built by those on the right.

Will someone stop this, before it gets too late?
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:49 PM
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20. Sure
invite them to your home. It's all good. No concentration camps that way.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:49 PM
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33. I'm afraid I don't see how that will stop anything...
I'm afraid I don't see how that will stop Sheriff Joe from erecting internment camps... :shrug:

Unless of course you were simply trying to be clever.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:37 AM
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39. WTF is wrong with you?
throw them in tents in 115 degree weather? Oh, but it's a dry heat. Neither this proposal nor the current tent jail is acceptable for a humane society to have.
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j420norcal Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:18 PM
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21. I thought they wanted these people OUT of Arizona...
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 10:33 PM by j420norcal
Now they want to spend tax payer money keeping them there??

Is this temporary housing while they figure out citizenship status or something more permanent?

Edit: After re-reading I now realize this is for those illegal immigrants convicted of crime.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:45 PM
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27. You have touched on the most ironic part of this bullshit law
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 11:47 PM by ProudDad
It mandates 6 months in county jail for any "illegals" discovered before handing them over to the Feds...

So, think about this, this bullshit right-wing racist republican arizona legislature (and their stooge Brewer in order to get her unelected ass finally elected) mandates that the cash-strapped counties get an additional unfunded mandate having to act like ICE and spend even more on jails and courts and lawyers and judges...stressing their budgets even further...

As usual, when it comes to bigotry, unfunded mandates are fine...

And if they actually DID get "rid of those people", the arizona economy would go even further in the toilet...

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha...funny republican assholes...

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 03:29 PM
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41. I'll go you one better for irony, ProudDad
When undocumented immigrants are handed over to the feds for deportation, there aren't enough detention facilities to hold them all. So the feds hang onto only those that have serious criminal records, and RELEASE the rest pending deportation proceedings.

It takes five years or more before a hearing is held, and during that time the "illegal" gets LEGAL STATUS--and can even get a green card to work. So the effect of the law, instead of getting rid of "illegals," is to give most a "get out of jail free" card for at least five years, with permission for legal employment!

No wonder Sheriff Joe announced he won't turn them over to the feds. :rofl:
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:56 PM
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36. No, the "crime" is a 6 month state jail term for "tresspassing" for "being here" (n/t)
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:46 PM
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28. fascist; sheriff joe is a horrific waste of skin! (n/t)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:28 AM
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32. Damn
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