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varun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 06:15 AM Original message |
Vatican Starts Campaign Against Gay Marriage |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. Hmmm |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. A question for Catholics.... |
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chemenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 08:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. As a Catholic, speaking only for myself |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-03 09:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
130. I agree 100%, As a Catholic that returned not long ago, |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 10:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. because i don't ascribe to that |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 10:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. OK |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 11:21 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Wow, a post that is offensive, rude, ignorant and narrow-minded |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 02:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. The words of your Pope are |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 08:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Just shows how truly little you understand of Catholic Dogma |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 10:00 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Uh huh...yea ok , |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 02:02 AM Response to Reply #51 |
63. Well, educate me then. I DON'T trust you... |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 06:51 AM Response to Reply #63 |
71. RapidCreek & Tedthebear have reason on their side. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 08:34 AM Response to Reply #71 |
93. good to see you gettin' the plug in |
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saskatoon (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 04:27 PM Response to Reply #93 |
116. Ok, here's the deal from an atheist (me) who was a devout Catholic for man |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-03 12:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
82. No, he's not misinterpreting. |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 03:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. so offensive |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 09:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. What the hell does your post have to do with what I am saying? |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 09:17 AM Response to Reply #55 |
75. Sorry, don't trust you |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 04:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I do not appreciate your accusations of bigotry, smartypants! |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-03 10:06 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. I'm not a Catholic |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 12:41 PM Response to Reply #79 |
102. Now you are slandering me!!!!!!!! |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-03 12:47 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. I'm Catholic, and I agree with Rapid Creek and tedthebear. |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-03 05:12 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. you're blind, then |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 12:06 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Hmm. I guess my experiences as a Catholic must pale . . . |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 12:13 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. I am not comparing Catholicism to Nazism or the KKK |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 07:10 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. that is illogical |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 12:16 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. No, it's VERY logical. |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-03 06:54 AM Response to Reply #100 |
128. does that include |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 08:42 AM Response to Reply #55 |
95. from what I understand |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 04:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
44. Hate, hate, hate |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 08:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Find a new parish? |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 04:45 AM Response to Reply #50 |
64. I'm glad that I'm not alone |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 04:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
77. Your parish IS part of the problem, youngred! |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-03 10:08 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. please |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 09:10 AM Response to Reply #77 |
97. ted, do you know the main difference |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 12:21 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. What the hell does that have to do with anything??? |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 12:50 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. apparently you are ignorant of |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 01:51 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. No excuse!!!!!!!! |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 02:19 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. um, I'm an atheist |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 02:57 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Ted, take a deep breath. Julie's on OUR side. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 07:30 PM Response to Reply #111 |
121. I think that folks who were never Catholic |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-03 01:54 AM Response to Reply #121 |
126. Still no excuse... |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-03 07:14 AM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Believe me |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-03 12:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
84. youngred, that's the same argument the . . . |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-03 09:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
88. Thank you, Cboy4, for all of your outstanding contributions to this |
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karlschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 01:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
107. Religion is the opiate of the masses. Run, don't walk, away. |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 03:00 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. Good advice, karl, but why not direct them to |
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karlschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 06:11 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. I should have done so. Had to take a quick charter, just got back. |
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dArKeR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 08:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
94. Question 2: Did the priests speak in sermon not to child molest? |
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absolutezero (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 10:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
99. I'm catholic |
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EFF BrandyWine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 03:32 PM Response to Reply #99 |
113. I believe it's listed under The Purity Laws... |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
3. Wouldn't it have been nice... |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 10:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
23. Wouldn't it be nice |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 11:01 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Bashing? |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 11:26 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Read the post I was replying to |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-03 12:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
85. Facilitating pedophilia for decades a "mistake?" |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-03 09:41 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Thank you, Donco, for all of your outstanding contributions to this |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
4. If they lost their tax exempt status they would change their opinion |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 07:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Interesting point |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
5. they have a right to think as they want |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
7. Once again Catholic Church right wingers are playing US politics |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 08:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
96. Hope the next Luther isn't an anti-semitic "Paulist" |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 09:22 AM Response to Reply #96 |
98. I hate to say it but AMEN!!! |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
8. Catholics consider marriage |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 08:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Exactly! |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 09:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. They deliberately don't want to get rid of the "Marriage" label. |
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Arlington (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 09:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. this is the correct line of debate |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 04:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
48. Amen |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 11:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Bull... |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 11:29 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Well marriage to the pope is a sacrament |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 12:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. The topic at hand is |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 08:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. Nope |
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varun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
9. Catholic countries are having same sex marriages... |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
12. Don't they have anything better to do? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 09:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. They do that already |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 09:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Yes...but that is pretty bad |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 09:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Deleted message |
bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 09:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. AMEN! my brother! |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-03 10:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
89. My congratulations, bushisanidiot ! |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
15. Hypocrites |
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IDUDOYOU (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 09:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. The Vatican issues numerous statements all of the time |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 10:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. they can be more enlightened |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 11:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
60. The Pope said that the Iraq invasion was immoral, too. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
21. Religious versus Civil marriage |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
28. Catholics are more "faith centered" than "clergy centered"... |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
29. Catholics are more "faith centered" than "clergy centered"... |
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Wonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
30. Huh! What Happened to their Campaign Against Child Molesting Priests? |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 11:30 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. multi-tasking |
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Betty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 01:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I would suggest they multitask |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 04:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. what irony.... |
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Wonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 04:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Yes I see what you mean there! |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 08:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. Where ANYWHERE |
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Betty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 10:58 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Where did I say |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 10:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
123. It depends on the priest |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
37. "join the offensive"... |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
39. With all the really serious problems in the world, they're focusing |
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PROGRESSIVE1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
40. "Vactican Starts Campaign against Gay Marriage" |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 03:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Why hypocritical? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
42. The issue is equality before the law, not what any religion says! |
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dback (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. DId anyone see Star Jones on "The View" today on this? |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
49. 2 words... |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 01:16 AM Response to Reply #49 |
61. Two more words: Nice post |
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RaRa (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
54. The Pope has Zero credibility |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 10:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Only |
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young_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-03 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
59. Can't the scientists tell them it's biological? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 04:49 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Telling |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 07:22 AM Response to Reply #59 |
74. Popes don't care what SCIENTISTS say. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 12:52 PM Response to Reply #74 |
104. um, Rev, not to rain on your holy parade |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 07:22 PM Response to Reply #104 |
120. Julie, who's joining? |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 10:02 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Interesting |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
62. Vatican also opposes hetero cohabitation |
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Aaron (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 05:10 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Ty for the good insight IG |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-03 03:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
131. What problems do mainstream Protestants have with Science? |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
66. You guys are great! |
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whirlygigspin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 05:13 AM Response to Original message |
68. I'll say this slowly |
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OldEurope (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
69. what makes me really angry, is this: |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 06:38 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. It also means that a child should not live with a parent that is gay |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
72. This has way more to do with US politics than with Church policy. |
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dusty64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
73. The fact that this organization |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-03 05:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Right on! |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-03 10:10 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Catholic schools |
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PROGRESSIVE1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
105. And Children should start a campaign against Pediophile Priests! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 02:41 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. I don't approve of post !06 by karlschneider |
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karlschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 06:13 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. And you needed to make your complaint public because..............???? |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 06:50 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. To show the contrast between what I am accused of doing and |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
114. The coming theocracy: why religious tolerance is overrated |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-03 02:19 AM Response to Reply #114 |
127. Thank you for an excellent post. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
115. Commitment between consenting adults is immoral. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
124. Mistake #1 |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-03 10:45 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. The same goes for recognizing... |
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