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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:30 PM
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Enron Ex-CEO Skilling Taken to Hospital
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 03:32 PM by dArKeR
By DONNA DE LA CRUZ, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK - Former Enron CEO Jeffrey Skilling was taken to a hospital early Friday after several people called police saying he was pulling on their clothes and accusing them of being FBI (news - web sites) agents, a police source told The Associated Press.

Police found Skilling at 4 a.m. at the corner of Park Avenue and East 73rd Street and determined he might be an "emotionally disturbed person," said the source, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity.

Police did not charge Skilling with a crime. They took him to New York Presbyterian Hospital for observation. Hospital officials did not immediately return calls for comment.

Messages left for Skilling's lawyers, Bruce Hiler and Dan Petrocelli, were not immediately returned.

Skilling was at two bars in Manhattan — American Trash and The Voodoo Lounge — where he allegedly ran up to patrons and pulled open their clothes, the source said.

"He was shouting at them 'You're an FBI agent and you're following me,'" the source said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=1&u=/ap/20040409/ap_on_re_us/enron_skilling

(In memory of J. Clifford Baxter: Assassinated by the Bush Crime Family just before he was to testify.)
The strange and convenient death of J. Clifford Baxter—Enron executive found shot to death
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jan2002/enro-j28.shtml
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:31 PM
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1. bwaaa ahahahahaa
Better than prison ... eternal paranoia that he's busted !!!

Give him a padded cell !!

I LOVE IT !!!!


:hippie:
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:50 PM
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48. Hmmmm,...could be he is NOT at all paranoid,...
,...but rather knee-deep in the sh*t for which he sold his soul. A "padded cell" would discredit all that which would make him a valuable resource to defeat the corruption that is KILLING this country. Personally, I would prefer to see this incident being treated as "stress-related" because the guy is obviously buckling.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:31 PM
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2. Ah, the Old "I'm Crazy and Therefore Can't Stand Trial" Ploy
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 03:32 PM by Beetwasher
Looking for the competency hearing no doubt...
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:32 PM
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6. Bingo
Just like that old Mafioso guy...
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:34 PM
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8. The Chin!
In his ratty old bathrobe...used to see him around the neighborhood...you'd never say his name, just touch your chin....

if you knew what was good for you.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:56 PM
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24. I volunteer my services to do the competency evaluation.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 07:43 PM
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51. Cool
Thanks for the props!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:39 PM
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52. Yo, Haven't seen ya around lately.
Thanks for the pic. Been using it for a while now.
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lordwhorfin Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:08 PM
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42. He's been
taking lessons in 'reversible Alzheimers' from Ernest Saunders! They'll soon let him out of prison to go into business with Mike Milken.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:37 PM
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47. Beetwasher gets a blue ribbon.
If anyone really thinks this sly old bastard, who has climbed to the top of the dungheap in the coldblooded corporate world, has actually gone crazy. . .well, I got a bridge I wanna sell you.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:32 PM
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3. Fakin' it?
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 03:32 PM by MountainLaurel
Can they argue an insanity defense in a corporate fraud trial?

:shrug:
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:32 PM
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4. This could be a ploy
for an insanity defense in his trial - don't put anything past this scumbag
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:32 PM
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5. I am skeptical
I really am.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:33 PM
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7. It's an act (or PCP)
and it won't work - he's goin' down...
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:35 PM
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9. Is This a Belated April Fools Thread? n/t
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:36 PM
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10. $1,000 suit, 10¢ head.
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 03:37 PM by DemsUnite
The hellhounds finally catch up to Mr. Skilling.

The abyss is in view...

(edited for clarity)
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TheBlob Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:37 PM
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11. I could think of a few bars on the Lower East Side
where I'd love to see Skilling pull this trick again.

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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:37 PM
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12. Is this a new Emperor Norton in the making?
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:42 PM
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19. For shame.
Emperor Norton behaved with a classic nobility. He didn't steal other people's money. He just printed his own, and the people accepted it.

Norton was a loony, but he was a loony of the people.

Skilling is a white collar criminal who no one will remember a year after he's dead.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:56 PM
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23. Yes, after his fall...But before, well...
The man who would become the first and last emperor of the United States of America was born sometime in 1819, in London, England, although we don't know the exact date. He and his family moved from England to Algoa Bay, at the Cape of Good Hope, and got wealthy there. In 1849, at the age of 30, he came to San Fransisco with $40.000 and set up shop as a trader in rice. Rice was immensely popular in San Fransisco due to the large number of Chinese immigrants in the city at the time. He soon made himself a fortune, about a quarter of a million dollars by 1853, but lost it all in 1854 trying to corner the market on rice with an ingenious scheme that unfortunatly failed. He bought up all the rice in the city, thus soon driving up the price to astronomical levels. Disaster struck when two Japanese ships unexpectedly arrived in the harbor laden with rice. Norton was ruined.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:09 PM
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33. True enough
He was no saint. And perhaps it is that fallibility that made him such a folk hero.

I just doubt that Skilling is of the same calibre, Norton was truly one of a kind.

And one of my personal favorite figures of History. so my hackles went up seeing Skilling compared to him.

OK, so if Skilling stops a riot at the RNC by standing on the corner of 33rd and 7th and reciting the Lord's Prayer, I'll buy into the connection ;-)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:37 PM
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13. AT 4 AM he was either drunk or stoned
If he was an average joe..he would have been charged with a crime or shot by officers who claimed they thought he had a weapon.

Fuck him.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:39 PM
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15. Not on Park and E. 73
Unless he was Black or Hispanic.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:00 PM
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27. Oh I know I forgot that part :-)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:38 PM
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14. Boo Fucking Hoo
The only place he should be taken is to the gas chamber for execution, which is what we should do to all white collar supercriminals.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:40 PM
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16. Sad.
Skilling gets world class hospital care while the thousands of employees and investors get zip. Where is the national media attention when they suffer?

Sorry, I can't summon any sympathy for this particular minor devil.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:59 PM
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26. Excellent point. All those folks lost their healthcare coverage.
Skilling's still got his healthcare coverage. Skilling's still got his millions.

Criminal. Pure and simple.

Put me down in the group that thinks he's faking it, too.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:41 PM
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17. At risk of making fun of the mentally ill...
what a load of crap. he a psychopath, but not schitzophrenic

these people haven't a shred of dignity.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:41 PM
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18. How the mighty have fallen
Collector of bad and doubtful debts...:eyes:
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:45 PM
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20. Put him out of his misery..
Give him a lobotomy, then take all his money and return it to the ex-employees of Enron.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:58 PM
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49. he rather have a lobotomy..
than a bottle in front me!!
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:48 PM
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21. boo effing hoo
There is no insanity defense for economic crimes so get over it, Mr. Skilling. And I hope everyone whose clothes you "pulled" sues you for assault. Sheesh.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:51 PM
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22. Skilling is just enjoying
the taste of liberty before his upcoming quick trial and life sentence, we should give him a break.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:00 PM
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28. This is all over the Houston paper
This is strange. My wife and I both thought that he is faking it like the mafia don. You have to be competent to stand trial at the time of trial.

On the other hand, he may have lost it.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:59 PM
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25. "Police did not charge Skilling with a crime."
Neither then nor now...
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:01 PM
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29. He'll be lucky if he doesn't
end up in Kingdom Hospital.
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AirAmericaDude Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:01 PM
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30. Sounds like a party
Is there a DU celebration planned if he bites it?
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:01 PM
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31. Oh, he was just way wasted.
Probably getting that way a lot these days.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:06 PM
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32. The commit-suicide drug they gave him only made him paranoid.
The lab boys are gonna catch hell for this.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:15 PM
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34. The Feds follow me around all the time!
Do you see ME tearing at their clothes? Or ripping their earpieces out and grinding them beneath my heel?

No!

what a wuss. gives us paranoid conspiracy theorists a bad name I tell you! ;-)

fuck 'im, put him in Bellevue and sedate the mother on thorazine til he drools, then put his ass on the street again and let him fend for himself, smoking discarded butts and eating out of trash cans. Its the way things are done. You wanna be a wacko in NYC, Skilling? fine.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:15 PM
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35. Clearest sign that something's gone terribly wrong with Skilling...
He attempted to make off with people's clothing, rather than their 401k's.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:25 PM
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36. Oh dear.
As they say in the pews, "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord." Or as my mother would say, "La consencia, la consencia..."
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:46 PM
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37. Oh no. He's perfectly sane.
... "Skilling was described as being intoxicated and highly uncooperative when he was approached by police, the source said.

Skilling has been charged with fraud, insider trading and other crimes in the energy trader's colossal collapse.

Skilling is accused of participating in widespread schemes to mislead government regulators and investors about the company's earnings. He has pleaded innocent to all 35 federal counts against him, and posted his $5 million bond with a cashier's check. "
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/100/nation/New_York_police_took_former_En:.shtml
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:10 PM
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54. If it had been anyone other than Skilling,
the police would have taken him to the clink instead of the hospital.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:47 PM
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38. I feel kinda sorry for Jeffrey,
he was the only one who was willing to testify before the Senate Subcomittee. All the other weasels raised their right hand and took the 5th Amendment. Skilling talked.

Not that he said anything, other than "it wasn't my fault. Honest." The market lost confidence in Enron, but that's ALL it was. That's the reason the stock tanked and the company spiraled down the toilet like a pile of crap.

"Not my fault."
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:54 PM
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39. Is he too broke to bribe a juror?
Can't he cough up the dough to cause a mistrial? How the mighty have been humbled.
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ctex Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:11 PM
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43. No, he has $23 million for legal expenses!
When Jeff was indicted all his assets were frozen, but he petitioned the court to release up to $23 million of these assets for legal expenses. If he spends all of this it will be the most ever spent by an individual defendent in a legal case.
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tedzbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:03 PM
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40. Sounds like Cocaine induced psychosis.
I am a clean and sober addict in NA and this news item sounds exactly like a hard landing from a Cocaine/alcohol binge. I didn't do coke/crack myself, but from what my friends tell me, paranoia where one thinks everyone is the cops or FBI is the norm.
I hope Mr. Skilling goes into a chemical dependency rehab before he goes on trial...or before he kills himself.

:kick:
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:40 PM
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55. cocaine
I once knew a guy who was waaaay too far into cocaine and he was ultra-paranoid, when he was coked up he would always be peeking out of the curtains thinking the cops were watching him. Very scary and very sad. Although this individual was a loser & sold cocaine he was no way near as big a criminal as Skilling.

Enron -> George W. Bush -> cocaine abuse.
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Arbustosux Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:08 PM
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41. Sounds like he needs some ElectroShock Therapy!
strap him down boys...
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SmokeyBlues Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:18 PM
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44. Wouldn't you know it!
"Skilling was at two bars in Manhattan -- American Trash and The Voodoo Lounge..."

How appropriate.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:20 PM
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45. Perhaps a candidate for a Cliff Baxter murder charge?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:31 PM
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46. Perhaps Jeff Skilling's a candidate for the Cliff Baxter murder
Cuz I still don't buy into the Suicide thing.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 07:14 PM
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50. Houston News attributed this to being drunk
One of the Houston local news broadcasts made it sound like Skilling was merely drunk. According to that broadcast, Skilling has already been released. If he was trying for an insanity play, he would stay in much longer.

The news put one of the criminal defense attorneys on who made the brilliant observation that this will not help his defense.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:57 PM
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53. F**k him and Bush's buddy Kenny Boy too
A normal, innocent human being would have a nervous breakdown if they were charged with all these crimes. But Skilling isn't normal nor innocent so fuck him. He's a greedy scumbag like the rest of the Enron execs.

Can't wait until they charge Kenny Boy and the stories surface about his friendship with Shrub and how they were carted around on Enron jets during the 2000 campaign.
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Mr_Lefty Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:46 AM
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56. Protecting Kenny Boy
This guy didn't strike me as the paranoid type.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:43 AM
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57. as long as the enron bastards are free
I know the justice system in this nation is a crude joke
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:49 AM
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58. Well, his Enron rival (Rebecca Mark) is laughing all the way to the bank !
Edited on Sat Apr-10-04 11:53 AM by frankzappa
She was the Enron executive who was tossed overboard by Ken Lay in favor of Skilling. But not before she cashed in her Enron stock chips (a year or two before the house of cards collapsed)

(1.4 million shares for $$79.5 million)

http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=rebecca%2bmark%2benron&ei=UTF-8&cop=mss&u=www.apfn.org/enron/mark.htm&w=rebecca+mark+enron&d=AC01E2C5A7&c=482&yc=15086&icp=1

:evilgrin:
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