General asks Pentagon to send 10,000 more troops

[Lori Price CLG]

General asks Pentagon to send 10,000 more troops

The US-led forces in Iraq have lost 70 soldiers this month and killed 10 times as many Iraqi insurgents in by far the bloodiest period since the end of the war, a spokesman said yesterday. Iraqi doctors say their dead are mostly civilians, the majority women and children.

The head of US Central Command in Iraq, General John Abizaid, called on the Pentagon to send 10,000 more troops to Iraq to quell the uprising, back-tracking on a year-long aim to reduce the US military presence. General Abizaid also said that some US-trained Iraqi policemen had defected to the insurgent forces of the radical Shia cleric Muqtada Sadr, while other Iraqi security forces had failed to fulfill their duties.

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[robbedvoter]

1. Rummy said: all you have to do is ask - so, let's see...

That'll play well with the "all's well in Iraq"

[bobthedrummer]

2. The administration and policies of George W. Bush aka The War President

are what led to this.

They used selective intelligence, they wouldn't listen to military leaders that gave sound advice-most of all it was the implementation of the failed "Bush Doctrine" of pre-emptive illegal war imo as an American that is shamed by this abuse of all our professional military that was decided upon, secretly, nine days after 9/11, all based on lies promoted by the neo-conservative traitors imo.

[Eye and Monkey]

3. This reminds me of a line from "Return of the Living Dead".

"Send more cops," croaks a zombie-corpse into a police patrol car radio.

[Lori Price CLG]

4. Why doesn't Bush go?

He could guard a Halliburton oil pipeline, and we could all hope for the best (worst, actually!) He could take his little dog, Cheney, too!

-Lori

[dArKeR]

5. I heard them say it will be the troops stationed in Germany who willl

be the ones. Am I cynical? Did Bush/Cheney/Rove make this decision because if soldiers are killed it's better that they're 'not directly from American soil' who would be in quick reach of the Media who might air stories which would convince more Americans that Bush is a liar, a coward, and incompetent?

[Frangible]

6. Their basic plan has failed

People do not embrace "liberators" who displace an existing government, no matter how messed up it is... have they learned nothing from history? Even in Nazi Germany, the Wehrmacht fought on even after Hitler declared they had failed him and didn't deserve to live. Why did they fight on? They were defending their homeland from an invader.

That is what Bushco does not understand. We never had a chance to win the "hearts and minds" of the Iraqi people.

The only way people embrace liberators is when they remove a foreign power and give them back their soverignty-- think WW2 France.

People keep blabbering on about what a success rebuilt Japan was. HELLO? WE NUKED THE FUCKERS. We were ruling by fear, not love.

You're never going to invade a country, overthrow their government, and have them love you. Period. You can make them fear you-- but that's ALL you can do.

You want Iraqis to love America? Then perhaps we need to stop doing what we want, and start doing what they want.

If you want peace and to have Americans there like it is now, you cannot do that with "love"... only fear.

[JNelson6563]

8. It is better to rule with fear than with love

if one cannot have both. ~~ Machiavelli

[NNN0LHI]

12. And I heard McCain suggesting Japan should build nukes to protect...

...itself against North Korea. Like the Japanese have forgot what we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki or something. McCain is an idiot.

Don

[wildwww2]

17. You are correct Don. McCain is an idiot. And a toadie for Bu$hco.

and the corporate lobbyist`s who have pointed our country in the direction of hell. He really suggested Japan should build nukes? My wife tries to defend McCain from time to time. But I know she will say that is the most stupid thing she has ever heard him utter. If it is true. My opinion is McCain lost his mind and his soul a long time ago.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[NNN0LHI]

18. Japan arming itself with nuclear weapons inevitable: McCain

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:3Rhe1ZmAFyMJ:www.japantoday.com/gidx/news249742.html+McCain%2Bjapan+should+build+own+deterrent&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

WASHINGTON — U.S. Sen John McCain said Sunday that Japan will be forced to possess nuclear weapons without active commitments from China to quickly resolve what he called a nuclear "crisis" in North Korea.

"I think that the Chinese have to understand that unless they become very engaged with North Korea and bring about a very quick resolution to this crisis that the Japanese will have no choice but to nuclear arm themselves," McCain said on a Fox News television talks show.

"It is a crisis," said the Republican from Arizona. "So I think that the Chinese ought to understand that it is not in their interest in any way to have a nuclear-armed North Korea."

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[teryang]

19. Why isn't an American deterrent sufficient?

It has been since WWII. Is our defensive treaty with Japan now meaningless?

If this is true (which it isn't) why didn't Japan go nuclear after China went nuclear?

[tlcandie]

20. In fact, Cheney's visit is in part to secure a deal with Taiwan

to sell them a HUGE weapons deal including missles. So, it would seem that this admin's thinking it just get MORE weapons and be the biggest, baddest MOFO around and that is what will keep you from getting nuked or invaded!

Might makes right!!!

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/D8E14218-46E8-4FC6-8C3D-7EF15D5E29FE.htm

Taiwan missile deal follows Cheney to China

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The China Times said the defence ministry planned to buy anti-missile weapons, including six Patriot PAC-3 missiles, worth $3 billion.

The order is part of a huge weapons deal offered by US President George Bush to Taiwan in 2001. Taiwan proposed a $15 billion special budget last year to pay for the anti-missile systems as well as submarines, Kidd Class destroyers and submarine-hunting aircraft.
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[TheWizardOfMudd]

7. Only 10,000?

Watch Bush call for Congress to reinstate the draft tomorrow night.

[0007]

9. Bingo! You may have it right TheWizardOfMudd

We'll know tonight.

[tkmorris]

10. No way nuh-uh no how

They cannao possibly call for a draft until after the election. They try it now they will lose and the draft will not happen. They can't be stupid enough to even suggest it.

Can they? Oh, Great Goddess, I sure hope so. There'll be a bloodbath if they do in Congress.

[dusty64]

14. I'm afraid you're right, it

will happen after the election if he somehow gets reinstalled. They wouldn't dare do it while there is a possibility they can still be held accountable, meanwhile the escalation begins.

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. Can't do that until after the reselection

It wouldn't be prudent.

[noyoda]

13. Wish my memory

WAS better. I positively know there is a House rules # and a couple of high profile Democrats are co-sponsor's. But they are waiting till /if they get elected. I was surprised at who the sponsor were but now can't remember their names,

[hadrons]

16. Charles Rangel is a co-sponsor to a draft bill ...

but he's doing it more as a wake-up call to the young people than anything else

[Ganja Ninja]

15. Is this 10,000 on top of the extra 30,000 troops that are ...

being held up when they were supposed to be rotated out? Technically we already have a draft. It's called stop loss. Why draft when the Bush's can enslave our troops by never letting them out of the military?

[bobthedrummer]

21. Soldiers blogs report the extension past a year is 4 months or "until

mission completed":grr::argh::grr:

...RANT ALERT...

One thing has really got me pissed-off, the employment of mercenaries. The mercenaries failed to do their job of "providing security" and earned such hatred that their corpses were burned and mutilated, tough shit as far as this 7th generation American is concerned-you signed the contract and went there by CHOICE for the MONEY and PROFIT OF WAR--the use of mercenaries:grr: has failed and only made things worse for all Americans and our professional military whose advice was ignored by the War President's administration lying it's way to a war planned for in the era of President Clinton who, at least, went after OBL the Saudi, unlike letting the bin-Laden family bribe it's way out of here when we closed our airspace after 9/11.
15 of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabians. Hello, can you remember BCCI? Must have been the original INTELLIGENCE FAILURE from 1947 recruiting NAZIS and giving them jobs and identities as AMERICANS working in national security and finding a POLITICAL HOME IN THE RW OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!!!:nuke:

[Lori Price CLG]

24. That is good thinking, and we'll see soon...

I see it getting 'drafty' around here...
-Lori

[tlcandie]

22. There is a link at Aljazeera (English) that isn't working atm...

it links to something else...BUT it states that the US will be getting the 10k troops from those who were already deployed, but on leave. In other words, they will be sent back sooner than they expected! It also stated the batallion, but I can't recall off the top of my head.. sorry :/

Those words from Rumdummy...

[daleo]

23. Escalation

Viet Nam