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bushbeater Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:20 PM
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Democratic club's ad suggests shooting Rumsfeld
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/13/dem.ad/index.html

MIAMI, Florida -- An ad placed in a Florida community newspaper by a city Democratic club attacks President Bush and U.S. policy in Iraq, and threatens Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

The ad says of Rumsfeld, "We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say, 'This is one of our bad days,' and pull the trigger."

The ad was placed by the St. Petersburg Democratic Club in last week's issue of The Gabber, a weekly community newspaper based in Gulfport, next to St. Petersburg on Florida's Gulf Coast.
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Have the Dems finally grown some nads?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:22 PM
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1. get the behind me satan!
nt
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:22 PM
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2. A very, very, very dumb ad to run.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:30 PM
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8. Makes me wonder if the club is really Democratic at all
Just doesn't seem like something Democrats would say... and it is coming out of Florida, land of dirty tricks and republican black ops.

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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:52 PM
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24. Dumb things said in local Democratic Yahoo groups, too.
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 10:55 PM by mouse7
Nobody runs a stupid comments from, for example, a Central Kentucky yahoo group as a CNN story.

More than 50% of Americans will be voting Democratic in the 2004 election. That's about 115 million people. One or two of them will say something stupid before the election. It happens. Are people who have positions of responsibility in the party saying it? NO.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:28 AM
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40. Big difference between posting on a message board and buying an ad
How much do you pay to post your stupid comments? Nothing.
How many people decide the content of your stupid comments? One.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:23 PM
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3. The Democratic party had nothing to do with this.
A couple of idiots did. Probably republican plants.

Next.

p.s. I noticed you just reg'ed onto DU today. Hmmm....
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:25 PM
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5. Google Donald Segretti
enough said
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:51 PM
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23. Ha! Headed up the "dirty tricks" section of C.R.E.E.P., eh?
Figures. This had "black ops" written all over it.

Interesting development. I wonder when the first instance of violence by "Democrats opposed to Bush" will appear.

These guys are so easy to read it's laughable.

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bushbeater Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:28 PM
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6. Would it be better to hide this fact?
Hmmm indeed.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:34 PM
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11. My hmmm was directed at you.
I have a feeling you won't be here long.
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bushbeater Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:38 PM
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13. Is it better to hide such news?
Is that what you are suggesting? Please elaborate on your concern for posting mainstream news.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:42 PM
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16. First of all
It was posted yesterday. Second of all it is obviously the work of a couple of nutballs with the certain purpose of making the Democratic Party look bad. It's just silly.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:48 PM
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20. No one is suggesting to hide this. It was talked about earlier today here.
This was a local group and had NOTHING to do with the Democratic Party or John Kerry's campaign. I am really ticked that CNN took the bait from that right wing Matt Drudge. Fucking asshole!
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Hornito Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:34 PM
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9. I think the kitty smells a rat?
Here kitty, kitty, kitty.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:23 PM
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4. I see CNN is using Drudge as its source again
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:30 PM
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7. at least they quit using mAnn Coultier...........!!
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:37 PM
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12. The left has no ability to turn non-stories into stories like the right
Where is our ability to take any fake story like this one and make it an issue?

We aren't allowed to, but the right gets away with it all the time because the U.S. media leans so far to the right.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:39 PM
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14. unfortunately we have scruples....
something lost on the stink-repubs....

of course at this point I think we need to pull no punches and, in essence, stoop to their level -- or we're all screwed
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:34 PM
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10. You think this is a GOOD idea!?
I don't care if you're a troll or not. Go the f*ck away!
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bushbeater Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:40 PM
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15. Why should we ignore this mainstream news report?
Please explain because I am agast at this news.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:42 PM
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17. You seemed to support it in your first post?
Now you're "agast"?
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:50 PM
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22. Only shit
eating repugs say stuff like that. Think back what they've said about Bill and Hil.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:48 PM
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21. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:46 PM
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18. Probably a pack of idiot freepers or CUmmers trying to make us look bad
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:47 PM
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19. Sure, I deplore the ad. I deplore almost all Republican ad buys
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 10:48 PM by mouse7
This WAS NOT ordered by anyone with a position of responsibility within the Florida State Democratic Party or the Democratic National Committee.
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artr2 Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:54 PM
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25. As The Webmaster of the Pinellas County Democratic Party
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 10:55 PM by artr2
I can assure every one of you that the club that published that ad has had it charter revoked by the party, and that the Pinellas County Executive Committee did not authorize, or pay for that ad.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:03 PM
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27. Thanks
Are the folks who published it really Democrats?
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artr2 Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:09 PM
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29. Unfortunately, yes
See the official statement from our chair at www.pdp.org
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:59 PM
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32. Well, if you're really the webmaster...
you might think of correcting a few spelling mistakes on the home page when you have a chance --- "Candidates" being one example.
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artr2 Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:19 AM
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34. Thanks I will
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 12:23 AM by artr2
Done! Anything else??
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phaseolus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:07 PM
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28. Thanks. That was the responsible thing to do.
So ... any scuttlebutt on those guys? Have they been around for a while, or did they just pop out of the woodwork recently?
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artr2 Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:10 PM
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30. I can't comment about that
sorry
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:02 PM
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26. Nads?
This is the single stupidest thing anybody could have possibly printed. How the hell does advocating the assasination of a federal official advance the Democratic cause?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:56 PM
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31. You also posted the story at 11:45 p.m.
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 11:58 PM by JudiLyn
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:07 AM
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33. Nice try. Thanks for playing.
See you in your next incarnation.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:56 AM
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35. This is pitiful ....
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 12:58 AM by Trajan
I know of ZERO Democrats who would even remotely threaten anyone ...

IT matters not what the fuck these people call themselves: they are amoral hypocrites before they are anything ... They are not 'Democrats' if they support killing a man, even for whatever perceived crimes Rumsfeld (many feel) committed: why would a Democrat go against type and support summary execution ? ...

THIS is a nonsense story ....
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:04 AM
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36. Truly, Democrats wouldn't fit the psychological profile.
But THESE creeps surely would.




How much rough stuff have we ever heard of from Democrats? The breakins of Watergate and Daniel Elsberg's psychiatrist? Dirty tricks campaigns of Nixon's Daniel Segretti? Tom Delay's nasty cretins ending the vote recount in Miami-Dade?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:15 AM
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37. My guess is he's #7.
Oh... I'm sorry... we weren't playing a game? }(
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:17 AM
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38. Looks like #7 to me, too! n/t
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:21 AM
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39. DUers - This is a bullshit story, meant to distract you...
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 01:21 AM by VolcanoJen
... from the tragic Humpty-Dumpty situation occurring at the White House.

Nothing to see here... move on...
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:43 AM
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42. *cough* *cough*
Troll*cough*
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:00 AM
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45. Slick link Jen
I like that.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:41 AM
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41. "Democratic club"?
Sounds like Freepers in donkey's clothing to me. :eyes:
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yelladawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:00 AM
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44. Sounds to be to be true
Sounds to be to be true, especially if you are a repug.

Hey I saw a letter from the NRA saying they want to shoot all Democrats.
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:57 AM
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43. Sounds like a Fla GOP dirty trick to me...
Lord knows you cant put nothing past those guys..I know of NO, NONE, ZIP, NADA Dems or Libs for that matter who would wish for that..We want to Vote them out! Like real americans.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 03:33 AM
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46. Washington Times: "Rumsfeld Suggests Shooting Democrats"
"My goodness!"
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 04:41 AM
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47. It must be a slow news day.
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 04:42 AM by soup
snips >
The ad appears on page 39 of the Gabber, a free weekly newspaper in Pinellas.

The $175 ad buried in a tabloid known mostly for club listings

"An outrage," said Pinellas Republican chairman *Paul Bedinghaus.

It was written by Ken Steinke, 75, president of the St. Petersburg Democratic Club, who has a history of political zealotry. He was arrested in 1993 for throwing Republican campaign signs off an overpass.

Gabber publisher Ken Reichart never dreamed his 13,000-circulation publication would get such publicity.

"It must be a slow news day."
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/04/14/Southpinellas/Political_ad_helps_Gu.shtml

Yep, nothing else going on at all.

No wonder this received so much attention.

:snort:

*Paul Bedinghaus

09/25/02
Then, in July, when Todd's 24-year-old daughter Tiffany decided to run for the seat, Bedinghaus specifically rejected Todd, saying "I think obviously on the part of the governor and the part of many Republicans, there is a desire to play an important role in making history by electing the first African-American ever to the School Board in Pinellas County."

Two months later, Bedinghaus apparently has lost his desire to make history. Starling finished third in the Sept. 10 primary (the Times, incidentally, recommended Starling). Child care administrator Mary Brown made it to the runoff with Todd. Brown, 66, is an experienced civic and education activist whose credentials dwarf those of Todd. She also happens to be black. But now Bedinghaus says he will support Todd in November. Further, he has the cheek to question the motivations of Brown's supporters. "That just proves to me it's not that they want a minority on the School Board," he said. "It's about selfishness and power."

Makes you wonder what he'd say his own motivations are.
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/09/25/Opinion/Bedinghaus__tune_soun.shtml

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10/23/02
The Pinellas County School Board's District 4 election race slipped out of the Republican Party's control long before the September primary.That came as a shock to local Republicans. After all, their campaign strategy seemed foolproof: When Tom Todd died last October and left a vacancy on the school board, Gov. Jeb Bush appointed 38-year-old Janice Starling, a daycare center owner with a background in education. The Republicans wanted to position her to be the first African-American elected to the school board.

>snip<
The Republicans believed an incumbent Starling was a shoo-in for the District 4 seat. But on Sept. 10, Starling duplicated Stith's fate.

The hints of problems were evident long before that.

The first came from Mary Brown, who had narrowly lost a school board race against Nancy Bostock in 1998. Brown had told Pinellas Republican Chairman Paul Bedinghaus that she wouldn't run for the seat if the GOP gave an African-American the gubernatorial appointment. Brown, an African-American and Democrat, later changed her mind and announced her candidacy against Starling.

"She was instrumental in defeating an African-American school board member," Bedinghaus says of Brown. "I find it hypocritical that she now wants help to put an African-American on the school board."
http://www.weeklyplanet.com/2002-10-23/news_feature_.html

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12/31/02
"I am running for chairman because I'm committed to winning elections for our Republicans," Bedinghaus said.
>snip<

As a boy, he said, "I can remember during the Vietnam War . . . watching the protesters, thinking that their approach was un-American and that they should be more supportive of the president during wartime. And to this day I feel strongly about that."
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/12/31/TampaBay/Local_GOP_leader_aims.shtml

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01/04/04
The new emphasis on local grass roots organizing has an added benefit for Republicans: It is further energizing local activists for the campaign. "The importance of grass roots coming from the (Republican National Committee) and the Bush campaign nationally is very motivating to us locally," Pinellas Republican Chairman Paul Bedinghaus said. "Sometimes in the past, people who do grass roots felt like second fiddle to the money raisers. That is definitely not the case now." The campaign is not merely encouraging grass roots supporters to work for Bush; it's checking up on them, too. Each volunteer who commits to a certain task, be it courting Hispanic voters or registering people to the campaign Web site, must account for the goal. Someone who commits to getting 10 pro-Bush letters published in the newspaper, for example, will have to produce copies of the published letters. There are perks to the job. Volunteer team leaders who accomplish tasks earn "GOPoints," which can be cashed in for merchandise ranging from canvas tote bags to folding chairs.
http://www.seminoledemocrats.com/page.asp?PageId=145

Wonder how many GOPoints this little ditty was worth, hey?

Yep, slow news day.......
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