Pale_Rider
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Wed Apr-28-04 07:56 PM
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ACLU Reveals Secret Suit Over FBI Powers |
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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&u=/nm/20040428/us_nm/security_suit_dc_1&printer=1NEW YORK (Reuters) - The American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites) disclosed on Wednesday it had secretly sued the government over a provision of the Patriot Act that allows the FBI (news - web sites) to demand customer records from businesses without court approval.
The ACLU said it initially filed the civil lawsuit under seal on April 6 because it could have been prosecuted for violating a gag order contained within the Patriot Act. It said it chose to make the case public after the government agreed on Wednesday it would not seek a penalty against the ACLU.
But many details of the case, filed in Manhattan federal court, must remain secret.
The defendants include Attorney General John Ashcroft (news - web sites) and FBI Director Robert Mueller. A spokesman for the Manhattan U.S. attorney's office had no comment.
At issue is the power the FBI has to execute what is known as a "National Security Letter," a form of administrative subpoena used to demand confidential financial records from companies as part of terrorism investigations.
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Wed Apr-28-04 07:58 PM
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1. secret suit - secret contents........!?!?!?!!? |
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Wed Apr-28-04 08:02 PM
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2. What is all the hush hush about? Anyone know anything about |
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the gag order they are talking about?
They also do not identify that this is a provision of the Patriot Act II snuck into a senate appropriations bill. Also as I remember now, they was no provision that absolutely identified terrorism as a cause for their consumer curiosity.
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Wed Apr-28-04 08:25 PM
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3. I remember some of this |
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from the early analyses of the USAPA
I'm fuzzy on the details
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Wed Apr-28-04 08:36 PM
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The government could penalize the ACLU for suing to protest a clause in the Patriot Act????????????
SUNSET THE PATRIOT ACT!!!!!!
My god, was anything more destructive ever enacted in this nation????
Oh, and hang Ashcroft.
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Wed Apr-28-04 08:40 PM
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5. This is Patriot Act II aquart. |
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I am not sure that these provisions can be sunsetted (sp). They were hidden inside Senate appropriations bills just before the end of last year, I think. Or the beginning of this year.
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Wed Apr-28-04 08:41 PM
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I bet that the ACLU is suing on behalf of a business that the FBI demanded business records from without court approval. Or perhaps a library?
Both of those provisions of the patriot Act put the 'demandee' (ie., the victim) under a gag order about the demand.
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Wed Apr-28-04 08:44 PM
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7. Hey, htuttle, thanks for that. |
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