'Outsourcing not eating US jobs' (BS Alert)

[OhioChick]

PTI< WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 2008 02:41:22 PM>

CHICAGO: India Inc, which is facing the heat from US Presidential candidates who blamed 'shipping jobs' to China and India for rising US unemployment, has launched a counter-offensive telling Americans that the BPO industry is creating new work opportunities for them.

A full-page advertisement in the Chicago Tribune yesterday, by industry body FICCI and the Commerce Ministry, gives an elaborate account of how the legendary Tata Group, along with several others like Ranbaxy, Mahindra USA, Bharat Forge, ITC Kitchens of India and HCL America have created thousands of jobs in America by investing in different sectors of the US economy.

The FICCI ad insertion in the leading US paper coincided with Barack Obama, who is engaged in a tight race with Hillary Clinton for the Democratic Presidential nomination, making a strong pitch to Ohio's blue-collar workers with a plan to reward American firms that do not ship jobs overseas.

“This is a six-month roll out before the Presidential elections. We will be talking to the US Congressmen and other opinion-makers about the positive impact of the increasing Indian investment in the US,” Secretary General of the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FICCI) Amit Mitra said.

The Tata Group that operates 16 companies in the US -- from luxury hotels and beverage business to manufacturing, telecom and IT consulting -- employs over 5,000 Americans.

Likewise, Ranbaxy is creating jobs and stimulating the economy in North Carolina, New Jersey and Florida, FICCI said.

"Where is the job loss? We are creating jobs for them," Washington-based Ranjan V Khanna, who heads the chamber in the US said.

http://infotech.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2798079.cms

"We are creating jobs for them??"
Thanks Tata, for those 5,000 jobs. :sarcasm:

[niyad]

1. this reminds me of some admin cretin who said that "outsourcing jobs is good for OUR economy"

what makes me annoyed is the insult to our intelligence.

[Cassandra]

2. Manufacturing presidential kneepads...

is not much of a job.

[dave29]

3. I guess I don't count?

I've been unemployed for 7+months now after training and driving around my replacement from India, but maybe I am looking at this all wrong... they were merely giving me an opportunity when they ended my career of 9 years -- and I am an ungrateful sonofabitch.

[OhioChick]

8. According to Tata....

There is a "luxury hotel job" just waiting for you. :sarcasm:

I'm sorry about your job loss. I hope that you find something soon.

[On the Road]

4. Certainly It's Creating Jobs

The question is how many, what kind, and whether they are enough to replace the loss. The replacement jobs have to be better compensated. The floor needs to be set at $10-12 hour with assured health care.

[OhioChick]

7. Well.....

Here's 10 jobs created:

"But in Buffalo, the fruits of the Tata deal have been hard to find. The company, which called the arrangement Clinton's "brainchild," says "about 10" employees work here. Tata says most of the new employees were hired from around Buffalo. It declines to say whether any of the new jobs are held by foreigners, who make up 90% of Tata's 10,000-employee workforce in the United States."

http://almosteverafter.blogspot.com/2007/09/clinton-woos-outsourcers-feared-by-us.html

[JHB]

5. Standard managment switcheroo

Eliminate 10,000 factory jobs, "create" 8000 lower-paying call center jobs.

Move those to India, replace them with 5000 hotel maid jobs.

Thanks for investing, Tata! :sarcasm:

[Hydra]

6. While companies continue to have to cut workers due to poor sales?

Down is up, yet again.

[amborin]

9. real problem is decimated industrial unions

we need strong unions

it's not enuf to keep manufacturing or any other kind of job here in the us....if the companies are not union organized, the wages and benefits are lousy

[LiberalEsto]

10. The overwhelming majority of IT workers

at Fannie Mae - the Federal National Mortgage Administration, are Tata consultants here from India on H1-B visas.

Meanwhile American citizens who invested in expensive college degrees in computer sciences are struggling to pay their mortgages with retail jobs.

[ihavenobias]

11. Excellent point

Also, more generally speaking, how is the US supposed to compete with countries that have cheap/free higher education? We're currently being squeezed by a surplus of low skill *and* high skill labor, which always drives down wages and benefits.

I can already here a free trade proponent saying "Sure we lose some jobs, but what's the alternative? The economy is global and we have no choice."

So aggravating.

[OhioChick]

12. You, as Well as the Above Poster

Offer Good Points.

[LiberalEsto]

14. Yeah, the economy is global

but American taxpayers provide these companies with all sorts of tax breaks, research grants and federal contracts.

Companies that outsource or insource foreign workers to replace Americans should be prohibited from getting any sort of government grants, contracts or tax breaks, including local property taxes or redevelopment grants.

Companies that lay off Americans and replace them with H1-Bs and the like should be required to pay back every penny of government money they have received.

Period.

[OhioChick]

15. 100% in Agreement. n/t

[izquierdista]

13. The only Tatas I want to see in the US

are in establishments of this type. Tell me, of that 5,000 they employ, how many made more when they worked for an American company?