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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 01:11 PM
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"What you come with is what you fight with."
Originally posted in a different forum, but wasn't getting a response. Thought I'd post it here instead.

http://rense.com/general52/gear.htm

Apparently, there's not enough gear to go around. They're telling the guard members that are being called up that what you come with is what you fight with. They're not only out of gear, they're short.
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In a few weeks we will report to our mobilization site and begin the admin process, which is followed by the training prior to actually going over. We currently have a platoon-reinforced size group. Our mission is limited scale raids and mobile reconnaissance.

The current issues that I am concerned with include: 0 ñ Reinforced Humvees 0 - Body Armor 0 - Goggles 5 - pistols. Supposed to be one each

The list continues and all the way down to a simple shemagh/balaclava.

Now for the kicker. I have personally spoken with my counterpart at our gaining command and this is a person who sits on the meetings. They not only have nothing for us, they are also short. The word now is "What you come with is what you fight with."
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So much for the conservative's posturing about how much they care about the Americans over in Iraq. What a load of crap.
Duckie
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 01:19 PM
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1. I'm bringing a samurai sword wherever I go from now on
Edited on Wed Apr-28-04 01:19 PM by sirjwtheblack
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 01:25 PM
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3. Cross bow's psychological impact...
Something about being struck with a cross bow bolt sets one off kilter... that's what I'm going for.... but it might not work for our troops
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 01:52 PM
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9. I'm packin' a Barry Manilow boxed set & a bigass boom box
WMDs are okay for us to use, right?
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 03:05 PM
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10. But isn't that against the Geneva Conventions?
(Jes' kidding, Barry. Ya know I love ya! )
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74dodgedart Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 01:21 PM
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2. Yeah, but we have 'Star Wars'
How much body armor could you by with the billions are wasting on that boondoggle..
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 01:26 PM
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4. Rolling back tax cuts for the rich would...
buy an awful lot of body armor
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 01:36 PM
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5. So What Happened To That....
....$87 billion dollars. If I remember correctly wasn't most of that money supposed to go for purchasing body armor and armored Hummers?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 01:39 PM
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6. That is the most infuriating part of Bush's bullshit attack ads
They try to say that Kerry doesn't support the troops because he voted against the 87 billion dollars, much of which went to contractors and not the troops.

And, WTF? How can they get away with claiming that Kerry doesn't support the troops when Bush doesn't even make sure that the troops have essentials like armour and enough weapons????
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walteraz Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 01:42 PM
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7. TO ROOT AGAINST YOUR COUNTRY
This column by Art Hoppe was published in The San Francisco Chronicle on March 5, 1971; he said it attracted more letters than any other column he wrote. Hoppe died Feb. 1, 2000.

The radio this morning said the Allied invasion of Laos had bogged down. Without thinking, I nodded and said, "Good."

And having said it, I realized the bitter truth: Now I root against my own country.

This is how far we have come in this hated and endless war. This is the nadir I have reached in this winter of my discontent. This is how close I border on treason:

Now I root against my own country.

How frighteningly sad this is. My generation was raised to love our country and we loved it unthinkingly. We licked Hitler and Tojo and Mussolini. Those were our shining hours. Those were our days of faith.

They were evil; we were good. They told lies; we spoke the truth. Our cause was just, our purposes noble, and in victory we were magnanimous. What a wonderful country we are! I loved it so.

But now, having descended down the torturous, brutalizing years of this bloody war, I have come to the dank and lightless bottom of the well: I have come to root against the country that once I blindly loved.

I can rationalize it. I can say that if the invasion of Laos succeeds, the chimera of victory will dance once again before our eyes -- leading us once again into more years of mindless slaughter. Thus, I can say, I hope the invasion fails.

But it is more than that. It is that I have come to hate my country´s role in Vietnam.

I hate the massacres, the body counts, the free fire zones, the napalming of civilians, the poisoning of rice crops. I hate being part of My Lai. I hate the fact that we have now dropped more explosives on these scrawny Asian peasants than we did on all our enemies in World War II.

And I hate my leaders, who, over the years, have conscripted our young men and sent them there to kill or be killed in a senseless cause simply because they can find no honorable way out -- no honorable way out for them.

I don´t root for the enemy. I doubt they are any better than we. I don´t give a damn anymore who wins the day. But because I hate what my country is doing in Vietnam, I emotionally and often irrationally hope that it fails.

It is a terrible thing to root against your own country. If I were alone, it wouldn´t matter. But I don´t think I am alone. I think many Americans must feel these same sickening emotions I feel. I think they share my guilt. I think they share my rage.

If this is true, we must end this war now -- in defeat, if necessary. We must end it because all of Southeast Asia is not worth the hatred, shame, guilt and rage that is tearing Americans apart. We must end it not for those among our young who have come to hate America, but for those who somehow manage to love it still.

I doubt that I can ever again love my country in that unthinking way that I did when I was young. Perhaps this is a good thing.

But I would hope the day will come when I can once again believe what my country says and once again approve of what it does. I want to have faith once more in the justness of my country´s causes and the nobleness of its ideals.

What I want so very much is to be able once again to root for my own, my native land.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 01:44 PM
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8. I wouldn't be surprised if some of that money wasn't....
Payed out in well placed bribes!
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