Rice's Meeting with House Dems- Can't find a link, saw on Cspan

[liveoaktx]

Saw a press conference from today with Nancy Pelosi, Charles Rangel, Jane Harmon and some others, in which they said Rice said two offensive things: 1. Rangel said he asked Rice IF Bush had known no WMD, no tie with 911, etc, would he have still gone to war with Iraq, answer was YES. 2nd. Rice said on June 30th Iraq is to be given FULL sovereignty. Apparently she made a point of this which did not sit well with Nancy Pelosi, who said she knew that the administration was making a point of *limited* sovereignty. So why is Rice pushing this? (Not to mention it ticked off the Dems that their meeting was held separately than the Repubs, so were they given a different set of inforamtion?)

Charles Rangel also made a funny comment about how the budget does not include the actual numbers for Iraq, including troop support, but will be in the form of supplementals in order to fool the public. He DID say that he believed Bush knows the amount and will tell us all the day after elections. :)

Would like to read the full transcript of this press conference or find a link regarding it.

[jean]

1. there was a report about this mtg on the radio...Rice met with Dems

separately but 10 minutes into the meeting there was a call to vote (which is controlled by the R majority, the timing of the call to vote, that is)

so the Dems had to leave the mtg to go vote - the issue was an important one. Rice met with them for a mere 10 minutes. She met with the Reps for about an hour and a half.

[ashling]

2. Rice to Republican Hose ledership on cell as she walked into the Dem

"briefing": "Give me 10 minutes before you call the vote."
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That word "briefing" - how prophetic

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[liveoaktx]

3. Still wondering about this-I can find nothing about this

anyone have a link? Sometimes I think "Why aren't the Dems speaking up about this" and then see that, in fact, they ARE, but only because I happened to be watching cspan at that exact moment.

i find the info seriously disturbing in this, that Condi Rice SAID that Bush would have gone to war with Iraq REGARDLESS of the other factors that were requisites.

[liveoaktx]

4. Found links-this is disturbing

http://democraticleader.house.gov/press/releases.cfm?pressReleaseID=547
"Dr. Rice’s presentation was troubling. She presented the war in Iraq as the first pillar of wholesale change in the Middle East, and said that the region and the United States would be more secure because of it. She said that even though no stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq, Saddam Hussein’s regime represented such a threat to the security of the United States that it needed to be removed by force. That flies in the face of evidence to the contrary.

"It is clear to me that this Administration did not know what it was getting into, and has no realistic plan of how to get out of it.

"Dr. Rice failed to acknowledge that the war in Iraq is costing far more than the Administration had anticipated, and that billions of additional dollars and thousands of additional troops will likely be needed soon. The Administration is in denial about the cost in human lives, and they are in denial about the cost to the taxpayers, now nearly $200 billion. Just think of what nearly $200 billion would do for our own domestic needs.

"The Administration must level with the American people and give an honest appraisal of the situation in Iraq. It must budget realistically for the needs of the troops we have deployed there, and it must work harder to enlist meaningful cooperation from the international community in the effort in which we must now succeed."

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Notice the part about Iraq being the first pillar of wholesale change. And the implication, that WMD aside, Iraq needed to be attacked, anyway.