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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:08 PM
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Randi Rhodes Is Starting To Annoy Me!
God bless her, I agree with her and I support her cause. But she is so condescending and rude to her callers that also support her cause. She's is being a jerk, laughing at and ridiculing her callers.

She is starting to get on my nerves.

I wish she would calm down and be nice!
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:09 PM
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1. If you want nice...
you are listening to the wrong Liberal Talk Goddess.
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JHBowden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:09 PM
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2. Randi isn't nice.
That's part of the show. Accept it for what it is.
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:09 PM
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3. then don't listen to her.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:12 PM
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4. a couple of points
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 05:12 PM by wyldwolf
1. The people who complain about what they perceive as Rhode's rudeness USED to annoy me. Now I look at it like someone saying, "The taste of Coca-cola annoys me... they should really change the flavor."

Why tamper with success?

2. If she was what you consider "nice" she'd be just another Pacifica/NPR-type low rated boring show.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:12 PM
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5. she only does it to folks who are not focused. you have to admit
sometimes callers are just rumbling on and on. sometimes when she's talking to someone who will not stop, I turn the sound down because they are getting on my nerves.
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:14 PM
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6. We need more attack dogs on the front...
Ignore my name while you read this, because I will seriosuly punch alan colmes in the face if i ever see his ass. There is a stereotype about liberals being weak, i don't know if anyone else has had the experiance, but when i debate with the opposition i'm rude, condescending and deliver ad hominem vitriol, and they whine "but i thought you liberals were suppose to be..." I myself like a more intellectual analysis, but we need a randi to give us an extra advantage.
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:24 PM
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15. What I'm saying is . . . .
She is being rude and condescending to her allies; not the opposition.

I'm also talking about her giggling and making fun of callers after they hang up.

I'm not entertained by insults. I think she should correct callers when their facts are wrong or their arguments are illogical or unproductive. I think she should remain passionate, but belittling those that support her cause harms our cause, IMHO.
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:22 PM
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42. Well that might just be the ny schtick but i know what you mean
I don't like it either, i know many people who are not voting for kerry because of the way dems treat them. (they're leftists)
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:25 PM
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54. I'm completely with you, Wiz
There're a lot of us who just aren't charmed by all the rudeness that is now popular (and is also evident on DU).

Nothing seems to stop it except to just avoid those who insist on acting like that.

I know a lot of people who have talked about not wanting to live to a ripe, old age, because they just don't want to be around all the constant putdowns.

It's all very sad, and isolating.

Certainly doesn't win friends.

Kanary
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:15 PM
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7. She's smart as hell, but I agree on the rudeness
We can take a lesson from the CONs' playbook: they make the freepers think they are the smartest callers in the world. Randi often seems impatient and like she's heard it all, and is bored. She needs to remember she has a whole new audience.

I :scared: at the thought of calling her--even though some of the callers do seem to miss her point. Hey Randi, be kind to your listeners!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:16 PM
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8. If you call and present any amount of BS she'll yell at you
She doesn't take BS even if your argument is 99% correct. That's just the way she is. If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to listen.

I know the call you're probably referring to, the guy who said Kerry wanted to increase American troops in Iraq, yet he refused to read the next paragraph that said Kerry wants to decrease American troops and bring in international troops. His argument was 50% BS, way above Randi's limit and she let him have it. Good on her.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:16 PM
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9. The last thing any of us should do is calm down and be nice
I've had enough of that bull-hockey.

:P
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:18 PM
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10. I think she is a self-infatuated smarty-pants.
But that's just me.
;-)
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:29 PM
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17. She admits that.
"I used to get my head bashed into lockers in high school because I was smart and I was a smart-ass."

She's also incredibly insecure, especially about her looks.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:53 PM
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29. Admiting it doesn't endear her to me.
Whatever.
That's why there's chocolate and vanilla.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:21 PM
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41. Your loss.

Her insecurity about her looks kinda knocks out your assertion about her being self-infatuated, though.

Whatever.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #47
52. Yeah, and we all know a woman must be a
supermodel before she's allowed to speak in this country, especially if she's under 40. If she's over 40, she's invisible, with the rare exception of a 'dog' like Madeline Albright.

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:

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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:40 PM
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60. SHE is the one that rails on her looks
it would otherwise never have been mentioned. And she's not bad looking, at least from the photos on her website. It's one of those things like women who say "I'm fat" regardless of their weight.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:52 PM
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61. Yeah. And.
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 07:59 PM by kaitykaity
I really want to go to my 'political' discussion board and read some insensitive comments about a woman's "Juggs".

:puke:
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:20 PM
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66. Yeah
and I really want her to pick up on someone who mentiones his partner and then have her and Tim drown out is call chanting "He's Gay!"

BTW, Juggs is the name of a magazine. We're talking about Randi Rhodes, here, expect crudity.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:48 PM
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68. I'm aware that Juggs is a pornographic magazine.

It's okay if she denigrates herself.

It's not okay if some guy denigrates her.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:07 PM
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71. But it's OK if some gal denegrates her?
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 11:08 PM by Must_B_Free
why did you specify guy? Is it only us "guys" who denegrate women?
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:46 PM
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76. Your ID is gender neutral, so excuse me.

And no, it's not okay that she's denigrated because she's a woman even if another woman does the denigrating. She does it to herself in a self-depracating way, (meaning she means it to be humorous). That doesn't mean it's okay to do it to her in a hostile way.



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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:34 AM
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85. I also meant it to be humourous
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 12:36 AM by Must_B_Free
in the same tone and style as miss Cherry Popper, Randi Rhodes herself - that is who we are discussing, after all.

Let me give you a hint - if you ever hear someone refer to Juggs magazine, that's probably a good sine of a joke in progress.

Good thing Randi doesn't post here, she'd surely get deleted.

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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:45 AM
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99. I don't need your hints.
And it's "sign," not "sine."

I read several of your posts on this topic, and they ranged from sarcastic to outright nasty. If you were trying to be "humorous," you failed miserably.

Hint: There's a spell checker on this board now. Just so you know.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:18 PM
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11. I'm liking her more and more! n/t
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:21 PM
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12. As a liberal, my primary feeling when listening to Randi is JOY.
I am so happy to hear someone speak the truth that I cannot in my wildest dreams imagine that I would ever have a reaction like annoyance--not even for one second.

I find it distressing that someone would waste time posting something negative when Randi's contribution to our fight against fascism is overwhelmingly positive.

I cannot fathom how a post about Randi being annoying does the slightest bit of good in fighting the BFEE. There are at least a million better things to post about.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:22 PM
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13. but ... but... she's RUDE!
...liberals can't be rude! We have to be nice doormats for the right.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:54 PM
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31. And.. And, She's from New York!!!!!!
Horrors!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:23 PM
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14. Where has "nice" gotten any of us over the last 10 years?
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:28 PM
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16. I don't want Randi to be nice to right wing freaks . . . .
I just want her to be nice to people like us who support her. :)
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:21 AM
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82. She's not overly good with callers that agree with her...
.. she's not a good listener. I think the point of the thread is not how she treats right-wingnut callers.. but the callers that agree with her. She needs to listen to them... and respond to what they are saying.. she has plenty of air time to crack jokes, talk about herself, rant, etc... But the callers deserve their props.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:32 PM
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18. lots of us are just getting used to Randi
once you get used to her style you may come to like her more. She has converted me to a Randi supporter. I really like how she says what she thinks without worrying what others think. She actually talks about LIHOP and most others who believe this are too afraid to say it.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:34 PM
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19. I think her LIHOP stance is why her and Franken
don't get along. He had a LIHOP caller today, and he cut
the woman off and explained ad nauseum how he thought it was
just 'incompetence'.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:36 PM
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20. Frankin says he does not do internet, I think this is why
his knowledge is limited about some things.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:41 PM
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24. He starts from a POV that only FAUX is to be discredited, rest of the
media is just dandy (free market, making money, how much oil in the humus)
I like his show because he is likeable and funny, but he is lihtyears away from the truth.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #20
49. he drinks from the insiders kool aid bottle
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:39 PM
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21. Stick with Begala then. I'll stick with Randi.
She is keeping her show rolling. And I get more info from her show than all other sources. The Gorelick wall, the MTP analysis, Carlyle - she is very informed, clear, convincing. By far the most effective show on AAR.
If it's too much for ya, there's a calmer show following her.
As a big mouthed New Yorker myself, I adore her. She is perfect!


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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:39 PM
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22. You know, if I was a Bushevik Operative or one of Karl's Dirty Tricks
Squad, I would say exactly what you have said.

But I'm not, so I won't.

NOTE: I am not accusing you of anything. Just saying what I'd do if I was a Bushevik Operative. That doesn't mean that you are one or anything.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. lol
*wink wink*
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:44 PM
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25. You are GOOD!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #22
28. Well, I'm Neither. And Rhandi Rhodes Is Annoyingly Self Absorbed
Why the hell does she even take callers... she just talks right over them and ignores whatever they said.

It's not a question of being nice... it's being able to LISTEN and INTERACT.

She is incapable of doing either.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. wow! She's on a call right now that completely contradicts your post
...hey! Maybe she read your post!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. Maybe That ONE Caller Got Freaking LUCKY!
and since a whole hell of a lot of other posters here besides myself have posted similar takes on Rhandi (that she's egotistical & rude to callers) maybe WE HAVE A POINT.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:08 PM
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36. ..and since even more posters here disagree with you...
..perhaps you just have an opinion.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #36
107. And Since Objective Reality PROVES She Cuts People Off
talks over them, ignores what they say...

perhaps posters who disagree are in freaking denial.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #107
111. ...and since objective reality PROVES that it is your opinion that...
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 04:40 PM by wyldwolf
..it is a BAD thing, ultimately you're still left with an opinion.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #28
53. That's true to a good extent
they start to say something and she cuts them right off and repeats one of her talking points.

Still, without Malloy, she is the hottest firebrand we have.

And that's just how New Yorkers are, offensive, abrasive and self absorbed.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #22
51. chill tp
I've said the same thing myself and you must know me pretty well by now.
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Loco_moco Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:47 PM
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26. Why don't you call her and tell her...?
...I think Randi is one of the best voices we have out there, and I sure am glad she's getting the recognition she deserves... :hi:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. Plus she did a lot of lobbying to get AAR started!
We owe her in more ways than you know!
And just look how her name is a freeper magnet. (used to be Clinton).
She must be doing something right!
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:53 PM
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30. Randi has a show
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 05:56 PM by Marianne
she is a success

Much like DU , she is not obliged to tolerate those who call in with a denigrating attack

It is HER show. Randi is not obliged to tolerate dissent or criticism of her views , like DU is not obliged tolerate freepers

She is doing a great job. She is refreshing and a non wobbly, like Franken

She knows her stuff and works hard. She has been a success and I can see why.

Today I turned off Franken. I simply do not want to listen to any freeper or any right wing shit or any program that caters to it. I got fed up with Franken's ass kissing, although his intro is often promising,and decidedly left, he fails to follow through in his interviews

I do not need to listen to those who are enablers of Bush or of any right wing views. It annoyed me today.

I did tune in again to Randi Rhodes= who in my opinion is ,more honest than Franken.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #30
35. Denigrating Attack? She Talks Over Callers Who Are LIBERALS
They say maybe 5 words and she just interupts and talks over them.
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Hornito Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:17 PM
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39. She is rude. And her Joan Rivers imitation "SHUT UP!" crap,
annoys the hell out of me. And as a former radio person, I can tell you, that when she comes on, if anyone is listening in an office, or public place, they would either have to turn the volume way down, or off. Her screaming crap is too much.

From a programming standpoint, it would make much more sense to follow Franken, who is a huge draw to AAR, with someone who knows how to modulate, and sets a more serious tone, one that COULD be listened to in a public place or office. Liberal is one thing, but screaming shrew is another. She's a late night personality. She's good, and she's smart, but she's not prime-time. If AAR is ever to grow to where is needs to be, it's going to need personalities that listeners and advertisers will stick with.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:12 PM
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45. I think the "shut up" is funny

This woman is a brave woman making a iving in a very competitive meleiu

She is refreshing.
I look forward to listening to her every day. Today I turn ed off Franken. He is , to me, boring and self serving.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:01 PM
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70. Her "shut up" is cajoling..

..imo. She goes a little over the top sometimes, but it's kind of entertaining.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:04 AM
Response to Reply #39
105. It's an O'Riley imitation dear
Love it how Randi stirs ya!
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #35
44. good
suits me fine. She knows who they are, obviously.

better than kissing their ass if she does not agree. Like Franken who has , after all, a reputation and a brag that he was in Iraq to entertain the troops at his risk, and a book to sell.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:05 PM
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34. I very much agree with your point.
It is sad that she is ruder than Rush is to callers.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:09 PM
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37. Change the station
When she gets on my nerves I do. But I come back for more.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:28 PM
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55. Me too
I am sometimes not in the mood for that type of agitation, but more often I am. But she'll never be someone who can interact with people like Franken, for example. She'll be a well needed beacon of rage and then time will make her irrelevant. Her dreams of stardom are somewhat sad.
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Teddy_Salad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:13 PM
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38. I know what you mean...
I switched her off this afternoon, for the very first time because she was extremely rude to a guy on the phone who I thought was being polite and reasonable.

It may be part of her show but would it detract from her show if she was polite herself?
I doubt it.

And her off-sider (Timmy?) is annoying me too with his constant laughing, especially at stuff that isn't really all that funny.

Oh well, what do I know? She's been successful so maybe "rude" works.....I dunno.




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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #38
56. They need to figure out that their inside jokes aren't that funny
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 07:34 PM by Must_B_Free
to those of us who don't get them.

I was particularly ashamed of them the other day when a man called in and mentioned that he and his "partner" were doing something and she and Tim kept saying "He's Gay! He's Gay!". They totally distracted from the point he was making. It was sad to hear the leading "progressives" behave in this way to gay people, even if Tim is gay.

She has a crass, lowbrow 80's heavy metal mentality.
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Laszlo_Hollyfeld Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:19 PM
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40. You're still in mourning for Phil Donohue.
The world's a different place. Get on the bus.

Randi kicks butt and takes names. In a world full of Rush Limbaughs, Dr. Laura's, Hannity and Colmes' and a host of others, she's exactly what she needs to be.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:23 PM
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43. I also noticed that the other day
I thought maybe she was just in a bad mood that day. I know sometimes she does get stupid callers and freepers, but there were a few where she was ruder than necessary.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:15 PM
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46. Yeah she's a gross person
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 07:17 PM by Must_B_Free
Obnoxious, egotistical, terrible taste in "music", and her tits are too big, but I like to tune in every day for my three hours of hate.

I agree that becoming our enemy is probably not "winning", but that's what we have decided to do. Besides, I guess it was to be expected that we would need to make room for the Freepers who got off the Kool Aid.

Oh - and by the way - you must be a freeper, because I have been told that anyone who opposes Randi must be a freeper.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:18 PM
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48. It took me a minute to detect the tongue-in-cheek.

Four hours. It's FOUR hours.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:33 PM
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57. Four hours of screaming?
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 07:34 PM by Must_B_Free
it goes quickly because you get the satisfaction of having your beliefs supported.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:53 PM
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63. Bingo.

I have a deficit of Hannity/O'Really/Boc built up that must be obliterated.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:21 PM
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50. WOW....What does Limbaugh do to you????
That fuck is 100 times worse than anything Rhodes can come up with. She's pretty fast on her feet,should let the caller say more and shut up but I don't care. We have her voice for Liberals and its a strong one.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:36 PM
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59. The difference is that she doesn;t lie
Rush knowingly lies and purposefully deceives. Randy doesn't do that. Factuality is her primary thing.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:52 PM
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62. In point of fact
Rush is rarely rude to his callers. He is pure evil otherwise but he actually treats callers reasonably weil most of the time. Rhodes is much like Dr. Laura in her treatment of callers.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 07:34 PM
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58. She is assertive, brassy, former military and if she were a man people
would hang on her every word.

Some people don't like her style, but I have heard her be both ways with callers..one day she had on a vet who happened to be a single father and she was AWESOME with this caller.

She suits some people's tastes and not others but her show is always entertaining and informative.

If she bugs you..change the channel.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:15 PM
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64. So let me get this straight, they want Al to be more like Rush and
Randi to be like Laura Bush,
no wait, Karen Hughes,
no um, a RW anti-choice, dimure little timid little woman who allows her man to run over her..

PUHLEEZ!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:20 PM
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65. If your gonna whine I don't want to hear it!!
I rather listen to her than YOU!!
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:21 PM
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67. If you want nicer... Listen to Al Franken.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 10:57 PM
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69. F*** "NICE"
"NICE" HAS GOTTEN US F***ING NOWHERE.
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:19 PM
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72. Assuming you have read all of my posts in this thread . . . .
Do you seriously contend that Randi should not be nice to the anti-Bush callers that support her cause?

She has stated that it is her cause to convert people over to the democrat side.

How does ridiculing anti-Bush callers, laughing at them and belittling them convert people over to the democrat side?

I will still listen to Randi, but I do not understand how being a smart ass to supportive callers is serving any positive function for us.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:26 PM
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73. It's her style
she's just one of AA's hosts. They can call the other hosts if they want NICE.
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:18 AM
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80. Sure
People are like, "Thank you, someone is finally telling the truth on the radio. I feel sane, now. I'm going to call Randi and tell her I love her and discuss an issue so she can KICK ME IN THE HEAD."

That's great?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:55 AM
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104. SHE IS A RADIO PERSONALITY
THAT IS HER SCHTICK. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT CHANGE THE F***ING CHANNEL.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:00 AM
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78. And being an
asshole takes you far, especially on a radio network, am I to follow? Condescending to people who call in to positively contribute to your show is so productive.

But you are right, the way the Democrats love to play second fiddle to Republican iniatives in the houses, has gotten nowhere.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:28 PM
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74. If she were a man would you demand *nice*
:shrug: ;)
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:30 PM
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75. Yes
Man or woman, I would feel the same way.

I guess you're trying to smoke out sexist? Sorry. No luck here!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:00 PM
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106. Nope not trying to smoke anyone out. Just wonder why our society
demands different things from each gender.

Men are not allowed to *cry* etc... I think sexism is really a two way street. Our society burdens all of us in different ways. We all have rigid boxes to fit into. :hi:
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 11:51 PM
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77. Yes
I mean, to the callers who are liberal even!

Actually I think it's just my preference. My favorite liberal talk show host is Thom Hartmann, who often invites the RW (most times from the Ayn Rand institute, the vociferous right, indeed) to debate on his show and is always congenial and informative.

The first time I heard Rhandi was on the first day of Air America. I had the timezones mistaken and was like "It's Janeanes Show" (which I was looking forward to). I heard a few call ins and was just like, wow, she is really mean.

Thank god it wasn't Janeane, her show is the best on the network.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:37 AM
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86. Thom is truely exemplary
he really is someone to emulate.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:45 AM
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91. I totally agree...
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 12:45 AM by FDRrocks
He is extremely well educated and uses it not only to harp to the choir but deface the right wing in all thier denial-based righeousness.

I love his show. I admit though at sometimes early on I found him pretentious, but that was just his form of trying to sell books, in my view.

He is a great guy.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:23 AM
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83. Yes.
I'm a woman, and yes.. I'd demand that a radio host actually listen to the callers that call in.. and respond to what they say.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:39 AM
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88. Yes
I did demand it and after 3+ years of participating here, I was called a Freeper for voicing this opinion.
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Liberal Christian Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:05 AM
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79. I was yelling at Randi today
It's true she's abrasive and loud and all that ... but I have to hand it to her. She has done her homework.

My problem with her comes when she has decided what a caller is saying and decided she doesn't agree, so she stops listening. Several callers today had interesting points that she just wasn't even beginning to get because she was starting to yell at them about how wrong they were before they even finished.

That's what bugs me. Not even bothering to find out what a caller is really saying before jumping in.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:19 AM
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81. Thank you.... I wanted to make a similar point.
I was going to make the same constructive criticism of her. It's not about "being nice", it's not about sanitizing her.. BUT she ignores the most important thing about callers... LISTEN to what they are saying!!!! RESPOND to what they are saying!! Don't just use the empty space to talk about yourself, crack a joke, or rant about your own stuff. A man called the other day to tell her how John Kerry had changed his life, after he had seen him speak in the early 70's. It was a great call, articulate caller.. she went off on some tangent that really didn't relate to what he said. When he said that he hoped to meet Kerry.. she responded that she never got to meet him, needs to try to see him herself, etc. She totally lost the point of this guy's call. It makes for really bad listening. I turn it off when she takes calls, because she minimizes the callers every time.

I like her monologue and rants. Her listening skills are really poor... someone needs to tell her.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:45 AM
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90. Exactly
She picks up one word that triggers something other than the caller was calling about. It's unbelievable. I tried to make this point a couple of weeks agot but everyone jumped down my throat. TO me it's like if someone has bad breath - TELL THEM. politely. Don't let them go around like that. Offer them a mint. If someone has something stick in their teeth or in their hair TELL THEM. If a Radio Host has a personality disorder, TELL THEM, so they can improve.
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LeftofU Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:39 AM
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87. Oh go kill an Iraqi why don't ya....
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SiliconMethod Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:42 AM
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89. You posted this everywhere did you? What a moron! ((n/t))
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:47 AM
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92. She's been getting on my nerves since I started listening to her.
This is nothing new for me.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 12:56 AM
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93. All you dissenters don't understand New Yorkers.
Randi is great. I thought she did a great job with Nader, even though it pi**ed off Nader! She is a strong person with strong views who has no patience with callers who stammer and dont make thier point.

If you don't like her, DON'T LISTEN!
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:17 AM
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94. Is Randi about "New Yorkers?"
Is that her mission? To garner an audience in New York?

I didn't realize AAR's goal was to get good ratings in New York.

My bad, I guess.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 01:49 AM
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95. No, she is from NY. They are
very nice people, but quite agressive in their style and opinions.

That's not a bad thing, but you can't get easily offended or you're not going to like them much.
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:27 AM
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96. Perhaps my dreams are too grand
I am still hoping that AAR will have an impact all over our country. I have listened to Randi's shows more often than not since AAR began broadcasting. She has received calls from almost every state, it seems.

Since it is her cause to convert people away from Bush, I would like to see her take steps to appeal to as broad a base and audience as possible.

Maybe it is just me.
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:32 AM
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97. What is the point of these threads
Listen I don't particularly like RR myself but she is what she is. She is not gonna change her style (which has worked really well for her years) because of threads on DU. I don't listen to her show but I'd damn glad that a forum exists for her and other liberal talk shows. I don't think these threads do any good except to start pointless arguments. Lets concentrate on those we want to add to AAR (like Mike Malloy he's my kind of firebellied liberal) and make more threads about shows that we do enjoy on AAR.
Scott
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:32 AM
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98. I agree!
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 03:19 AM
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100. how DARE a WOMAN be ASSERTIVE?!?!?!?!!?
*mock gasp* Why, she should act like Barbara Walters!
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 03:41 AM
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101. Lawd, Have Mercy
:eyes:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 03:47 AM
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102. waaaa! waaa!
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 05:39 AM
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103. i use her to lull me to sleep at night
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 05:45 AM by NuttyFluffers
i love her so much. i find her firebrand nature so soothing that i listen to the evening replay to lull me into happydream, sleepytime. i get her jokes and absolutely love her sense of humor. i love the stories, the inside jokes (that eventually i'll get the 411 on), and blase sass.

it's exactly like a heavy metal biker chick laying down the law on smarmy, ignorant freeps and polishing the sonorous drone of our fellow liberals into something snappy and poignant. time is money and if you can't get your point out in nanoseconds flat, castrating any spurious retorts you've wasted time in a debate. she's honing you into fine steel to take no crap and lay the cards on the table fast and furious.

i dig al's jokes, i dig unfiltered's quirkiness, i dig majority report's hilarious scathing sarcasm, i dig it all. and adding a tough woman with swagger enough for two and perfect comfort on a harley is just my complete cup of tea. it rounds out the spectrum and i love it. i love it so much i must listen to it twice for her voice soothes me like i was a wee baby. and i'm from SF Bay Area! heh, love her, love her, love her.

you're not meant to love the *entire* spectrum of what we liberals are (i just happen to have love enough for almost everybody). you are not meant to love all the programming on any channel on tv, so naturally why would it be different now? if you find her too coarse, well you've found you're limit, that's ok, you don't have to listen, we liberals who do love her won't love you any less. (cue in joan rivers' "SHUT UP!!!") Yes! we still love you - and your fancy pants elitist ways ;) (/sarcasm note for those with stunted senses of humor)
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:41 PM
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108. Al Franken puts
me to sleep and Randi wakes me up.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 02:49 PM
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109. Cynthis McKinney on
she'll run again
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 03:08 PM
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110. Randi has the best AAR show IMO
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 03:13 PM by SiouxJ
She does her research; she probably gives out the most information per show; and she gets your attention. Sure, she's impatient but I think that's because she knows she only has so much time to get the information out. The show really moves along because of it. Other shows lag and get dull because the hosts don't move it along. She can think on her feet quicker than any of the other hosts I've heard too.

A great example of how informative her show is was yesterday when she had her research people investigate Cheney's voting record on military bills and then she rattled them all off. It showed what a complete hypocrite he is. It seemed like it went on for like 15 minutes or so. It was great!

Also, she sounds so much more professional to me than any of the other hosts. I know, she's had a lot more practice, but she ought to give a few lessons to Franken. I love him (passionately) but he fumbles words so much that sometimes it gets a little irritating. I'd rather listen to someone who can speak clearly and smoothly and make her points clear. (though I never miss O'Franken) Not to mention, she GETS TO THE POINT quickly.

If you don't like her, don't listen, though you will miss a lot of important stuff if you choose not to. I personally am glad she's on our side. The funny thing is, I've heard her callers comment on her directness and they actually joke about her brutality. It doesn't seem to stop people from calling either. It's like it's expected. I actually think some people are disappointed if she's too nice to them. ;-)
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