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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 03:56 PM
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"Major" Combat ended was ADDED LATER by Media - Anniversary of fakery
Don't know if you all remember that the Media added the "Major" in "Major Combat Operations over" --

it was CHANGED ala White House site and DOD LATER --

On the One year anniversary of this Triple LIE I'm posting this PROOF..

Pass this around -- the Media is already PARROTING the remark and attributing it to BUSH when as far as I KNOW it was added LATER..

We've got screen shots to prove it here:

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/whitehouselies.html

See how easy it is to fool the public and make something a meme without them even realizing it? In the end they just make us "repeater stations"..

Like that PDB in August being a "historical document" :)
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 03:59 PM
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1. I REMEMBER - even DUers often quote the changed version
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:03 PM
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5. I get sick everytime I hear
"Major"... it's a LIE pure and simple..

I think a Republican gets their wings everytime someone says that..

it was a DU'r who caught this as I recall..

Winston Smith LIVES people :)
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:00 PM
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2. Thanks for bringing that up
It's appalling how complicit the corporate media is in Bush's agenda. Fucking media whores.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:02 PM
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3. I remember that!
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:02 PM
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4. Just like Winston did in the 1984 Ministry of Truth. n/t
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:04 PM
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6. Yes. I remember.
Orwellian Madness reigns supreme in Imperial Amerika.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:08 PM
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7. Don't forget the lies about the Mission Accomplished sign
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1502404">In honor of "Mission Accomplished" anniversary - Bush's LIES about that
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:18 PM
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8. Yep
More goodies..
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:24 PM
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9. thanks, symbolman
bookmarking this
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:41 PM
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10. Excellent!
Thanks so much for all you do!

:thumbsup:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 04:59 PM
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11. The speech said "major combat operations have ended"
I'm afraid. Do you really think it's a big thing if the White House tells people to put the 'major' in the quotes, when it was there in the speech?

Video here:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85777,00.html
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 05:05 PM
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12. I remember sitting in my car listening to the address
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 05:06 PM by linazelle
I would not leave to go to the mall store until after hearing Bush's address. It sickened me hearing the cheering and applause as Bush spoke--knowing that he had lied even before the war or before that day.

However, I personally remember Bush actually saying "major" combat operations had ended as I listened to the address live. And I pay close attention to every word that * utters or drools.

I don't want to give the man/chimp any more credit than he is due--but if he said it, then he said it. I think he said "major."
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 06:53 PM
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13. I guess it was too much
bother then to put it up on the white house site and the DOD site as well..

until it became a MAJOR problem later :)

I'm will believe the transcript has been changed, since they are willing to change anything at will..

and they HAVE changed transcripts AND HID them.. like the speech by Ari about Joseph Wilson in Africa..

you are using FOX as a link?

Please.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:23 PM
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14. Me? Using FOX as a link?
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 07:31 PM by linazelle
I didn't mention a link at all. I'm only stating my opinion and I think my position is pretty clear. And I'm not denying that they changed their website comments. I'm recalling what I heard. Did you actually listen to the address as I did?
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:03 PM
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15. I hate like hell to say that the word "major" was in fact in the speech...
Don't get me wrong, the Iraq war is a criminal obscenity; whether or not * said the word "major" seems somewhat irrelevant. I would interpret the 128 dead GIs this April alone in Iraq as pretty "major."

Just want to make sure we have the facts right before running with this. Anyone have access to an audio file of *'s actual 5/1/03 speech? That would be the final word. Literally.

The Department of State link below:
http://www.state.gov/p/nea/rls/rm/c9181.htm
offers the following:
"--05/01/03 President Bush Announces Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended ; President George W. Bush; USS Abraham Lincoln; At Sea Off the Coast of San Diego, California"
BUT, when you click on this to get the full text of *'s speech
http://www.state.gov/p/nea/rls/rm/20203.htm
one can read:
"Thank you all very much. Admiral Kelly, Captain Card, officers and sailors of the USS Abraham Lincoln, my fellow Americans: Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country..."
<snip>

I can't link to the UP release below, as I located it on Lexis-Nexis. It's dated April 30 -- the day **before** the PR stunt. Would the press have added the word "major" in advance of the speech? I would urge anyone who has access to Lex-Nex to do the same.

Copyright 2003 U.P.I.
United Press International
April 30, 2003 Wednesday
LENGTH: 1011 words
HEADLINE: Analysis: Bush - No war, nor peace
BYLINE: By NICHOLAS M. HORROCK
DATELINE: WASHINGTON, April 30 (UPI)
BODY:
There has always been a dubious reading of history in the Bush administration, sort of like a History Channel documentary with lots of images and some quick analysis.

President George W. Bush Thursday will step to the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln to announce the end of "major combat operations" in Iraq as the giant aircraft carrier sails toward its home port of San Diego.

The plan has the ring of the public relations department. The Abraham Lincoln's aircraft opened hostilities against Iraq and somebody remembered the unconditional Japanese surrender that ended World War II was signed on the decks of the Battleship Missouri that had led the long march to Tokyo.
<snip>
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:17 PM
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16. Thank you for doing the homework...
Like you, I don't really think this is an issue. Bush has lied about plenty more and to keep focusing on minutae minimizes the attention that should be placed on the more significant issues.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 12:49 AM
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17. Gee linazelle
I focused on minutae so much that I somehow slipped and did all these flash movies and went on TV MSNBC and FOX and CNN, etc and RADIO, etc..

I should pay more attention.. I'm so embarrassed..

Thanks for the Honest investigative work instead of Opinion..

*****************

HERE are 15 of what I consider my Best flash movies. They've been seen willie-nillie on the web (some have been slayed in the LATIMES, National Review, etc) - linked on Michaelmoore.com, Howardstern.com and many more Great sites. One of them has been downloaded nearly a million times - I'll let you guess which one, but one clue would be to say that the GERMANS Loved it. :)

"Bush Knew - An American Requiem"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html
Music: Beethoven's Requiem in D major - "LaCrimosa"

WARNING: GRAPHIC

I created this exactly one year after the actual horror took place on 911. I found it absolutely impossible to believe that Bush would sit on his butt in a schoolroom KNOWING that one of the World Trade Center towers had been taken out by an airliner - and STILL sit there (even AFTER Andrew told him personall that the SECOND tower had been hit) and READ A BOOK ABOUT A GOAT FOR OVER A HALF AN HOUR.

Think about that. I've included all the information by the media that shows that he had FULL KNOWLEDGE of our country being under attack when he walked INTO that school (placing all those kids in danger - his whereabouts were well known - this was a planned photo op.

This flash may be disturbing to some people. It involves a split screen that shows Bush reading on the left while the buildings burn and poor souls are leaping to their death. The death that in my opinion was allowed to happen at a minimum and at a maximum shows utter incompetence by Bush, who as we have learned recently had MANY warnings in presidential briefs right up to the cataclysm. BUSH KNEW - AND DID NOTHING.

This flash was made possible by the use of actual footage made at the Booker Elementary school by local media that morning that shows CONCLUSIVELY that Bush SAT on a chair, looking mighty guilty to many of us.

"Bush is Not a Nazi - So Stop Saying That.."
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html

"ARMY OF ONE"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html
or VIEW the 30 second TV ad
here: http://www.bushin30seconds.org/view/11_small.shtml

"Murder By Numbers"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/murderby.html

"CondoLIESa"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/condosleeza.html

"ChickenHawk - Hall of Shame"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html

"Triumph of the Wimp"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/triwimp.html

"Pentagoon"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/pentagoon2.html

"VoteREvolution"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/voterevolution.html

"Duct Tape Theater"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/dtape1.html

"Hate Radio Called.."
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/hateradio1.html

"Baghdad Snapshot Action"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/iraqkids.html

"Warnography"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/warnography.html

"The Protest that Never Was"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/noprotest.html

"One Hundred Lies In 30 Seconds"
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/100lies.html
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 01:01 AM
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18. C-Span has it archived; the bad news is he does say "major" at ~1:45
Edited on Sat May-01-04 01:05 AM by 0rganism
The good news is, you don't have to futz around in the speech or wait for him to say it, it's right there at the beginning. Minimizes the pain of hearing Caligula enunciate.

The realplayer link appears to be

rtsp://cspanrm.fplive.net/cspan/kdrive/iraq050103_bush.rm?start=:25.0&end=:25:25.0

If that doesn't work, just go to their videos page and search for "combat operations". It may be of some small consolation to you that C-Span titles the link "Pres. Bush Address to Nation on End of Combat in Iraq", so they too blurred the distinction.
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