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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:48 PM
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Prosecuting a man for murder in this war...
...was like passing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500.

Col. Willard, _Apocalypse Now_

So the media has got themselves a story about one U.S. soldier shooting a wounded unarmed Iraqi prisoner and they're calling it murder.

Killing 1200 people on our umpteenth 'taking' of Fallujah, that wasn't murder?

100,000 civilians dead as a result of a gratuitous war followed by a botched occupation wasn't murder either?

It's OK to blast into a city killing everything in your path, but shooting one guy who's wounded is murder. Wow. I love these new moral values.

As far as I can tell the only reason this is a news story is that they can manipulate it in order to give people the impression that the kind of killing they're doing on a daily basis is somehow OK compared to this kind of special, anomalous killing that's not justified and therefore wrong. Since we're showing fake outrage about this one death, then that means the others must all have been A-OK, otherwise we would have shown outrage about them, right?

@#$!,

The Plaid Adder
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:51 PM
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1. Well, it's on the yahoo home page now
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041115/wl_nm/iraq_marine_shooting_dc_2

"A Marine can be heard saying on the pool footage provided to Reuters Television: "He's fucking faking he's dead. He faking he's fucking dead."


"The Marine then raises his rifle and fires into the man's head. The pictures are too graphic for us to broadcast," Sites said. No images of the shooting were shown in the footage provided to Reuters. "
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hangemhigh Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:53 PM
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2. Ain't it the fuckin' truth ...
and they show no signs of stopping-this nation is bringing some bad karma upon itself for this. Every time I think of it I want to vomit.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:55 PM
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3. To take this a little further if the solider wasn't were he isn't supposed
to be in the first place. This would have never happen. The entire fucking war is a violation of international law. There are no two ways around it.

Just as Saddam was wrong for invading Kuwait for whatever, perceived threat or advantage he saw there, we are equally as wrong to invade his country without a meaning full threat to our security.

This war on some many levels is being fought wrongly as well as illegally. We got troops over there without enough leadership to cover them and we are priming them up for battles and expecting them to turn it off like a machine. And these are kids. We ought to be ashamed of ourselves and I fear history will not treat us kindly. Those who didn't vote or voted for Bush especially.
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:55 PM
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4. Well said.
And is it any wonder war, a war like that in particular, can put someone over the top?
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 07:04 PM
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5. Well, I'm assuming that he's young
But I guess this kid will merely be one of our fall guys. After all, if we prosecute him and lock him up for the rest of his life, it will prove to the world that we have the best of intentions. Right?


You are correct- he did nothing more than what our other soldiers have done in a larger, more anonymous manner. I certainly can't condone what he did, but I can't condemn him as an individual either. He's been put in an impossible situation by our corrupt, oil-driven, End Times supporting leaders. And the only realistic way for him to get out of that situation is in a pine box or in a military prison for refusing to follow orders.

Since I'm not sitting in a jail right now, I can't very well ask him to do something that would land him in the gulag either.


That said, we really need to start funding the psych hospitals now, because we are going to have far too many screwed up soldiers coming home one of these days.
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 07:15 PM
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6. Every war
we take one guy and hang him up by his thumbs to set an example and show the world we're keeping an eye on our guys.
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