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DealsGapRider Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:02 PM
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This is really odd.
Why would the state of Texas post such a page? Seems rather perverse to do so. Anyone agree?

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/finalmeals.htm

Also, check out this bizarre page. The state of Florida seems awfully pleased with itself that the majority of its death row inmates are white males.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/pub/factsheet/0203/index.html
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:05 PM
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1. I have a love/hate relationship with Texas
How can a state that produces fine people like Molly Ivins produce perverse death row groupies and guys like Bush? :shrug:
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Sick of Bullshit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:31 PM
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14. I think you'll find that all states produce lunatics and luminaries
Take my own state of Missouri, for instance-- on the one hand, we've produced luminaries like Mark Twain and Jerry Litton, but on the other, there have also been some lunatics like Rush Limpbaugh and John A$$croft.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:51 PM
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15. I'll say
Edited on Wed Sep-03-03 10:52 PM by kysrsoze
SW Missouri hosts some of the most racist motherf*ckers on the planet. They hate everyone - blacks, jews, immigrants, you name it. I can't say anything better for downstate Illinois. I went to school there - live in Chicago now. Though it has its problems, it's still good. People can actually live together. Really, as soon as you get south of Route 30, you're heading into Deliverance territory.

That said, I really do like Wisconsin. Anybody ever had a really bad experience there?
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King Bush II Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:07 PM
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2. i think
that the first link is rather fascinating. very interesting reading material, but then again maybe im just strange. either way thanks for the link!
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:09 PM
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3. Truthfully?
I found both sites rather creepy. The first one made me hungry while I was feeling creeped out. That was a very odd and conflicting sensation.
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King Bush II Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:11 PM
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4. i think its interesting to
read about all of their cases
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:12 PM
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5. lots of people are interested in the final meals of execution victims
it's a standard part of any reporting on the actual execution.

the final meal is part of the ceremony or ritual surrounding modern executions.

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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:13 PM
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6. The Circus is never more full than when with certainty someone will die.

I just read today that crime is up. Violent crime is on its way up. Who has contributed to this state of affairs, none other than George W. Bush.

Police departments across the country are cutting back due to fiscal failures in the local communities budgets. One of the first acts performed by Bush was to cut the funds that Clinton had secured for more police.

Unless you are lucky and rich enough to be in one of the gated communities secure with your own police force you and your loved ones are probably in for a very brutish life.

The way to appease some of people is to extol the power of the state to kill a presumed malefactor.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:17 PM
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7. It is both gruesome and fascinating ... on a personal front ...
Back in another life, I served on the Director's Staff in a very large Correctional System as the Administrator of Internal Affairs. Although my state had a Death Penalty, they had not actually executed anyone until the late 1980s. As it became apparent that appeals would soon exhaust, like any bureaucracy, we had to develop a procedure for the execution. Talk about surreal, to bat a policy around that would culminate in someone actually being executed.

To put it bluntly, we were writing administrative policy for killing a MFer! When that realization sank home with me as well as my role in the execution in the Death Chamber acting to record the proceedings in a log including the condemed human's last words, I knew with finality that I was in the wrong business.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:31 PM
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8. Did you see the one where...
The guy requested "Justice, Equality and World Peace" for his final meal?
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King Bush II Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:38 PM
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10. yea
me and my friends were having a pretty good time reading through them and trying to 1 up each other
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kixot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:34 PM
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9. Yayy! We have more white people on death row!!!
And it's not because Jeb doesn't want to look racist AND sexist so stop saying that!!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:39 PM
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11. Whites equal their percentage in society.
Blacks are nearly double their representation.

And it's titled "Did you know...That the majority of inmates on Florida's Death Row are white males?"


:wtf:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 08:45 PM
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12. All Those Fried Foods Will Kill Ya
...sorry. Someone had to say it.

:evilgrin:
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 09:00 PM
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13. It does seem a little bizarre, but ole Stanley Baker had the one I like:
Two 16 oz. ribeyes, one lb. turkey breast (sliced thin), twelve strips of bacon, two large hamburgers with mayo, onion, and lettuce, two large baked potatoes with butter, sour cream, cheese, and chives, four slices of cheese or one-half pound of grated cheddar cheese, chef salad with blue cheese dressing, two ears of corn on the cob, one pint of mint chocolate chip ice cream, and four vanilla Cokes or Mr. Pibb
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Hell, if I ate that, I'd probably be glad to die......
:eyes: :crazy: :D
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MiltonLeBerle Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:52 PM
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16. A part of the reason for some of those "heavy" meals-
at least in the past before lethal injection, was the desire by the condemned to make as big a mess as possible when hung or electrocuted and the bowels release.
I'm not sure if it's a by-product of lethal injection as well- does anyone know?
A lot of times, when a man is hanged by the neck, he'll spontaneously ecaculate, which was a part of the perverse "appeal" of public hangings.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:55 PM
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18. I don't really think we needed all the details, thanks
That last part was sick.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:54 PM
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17. Either that or he was going to try choking himself or having a heart attac
he he.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:59 PM
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19. I used to live in Huntsville
Where Texas used to perform its executions. The local paper had a little box with that week'd death row inmate's final meals on it. Very creepy.

Also, I've never seen so much crapola from McDonald's, though apparently they've stopped doing that.

Also, check Mr. Maddon's last request:
Madden Robert 822 05/28/1997 Asked that final meal be provided to a homeless person

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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:22 PM
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20. "* The final meal requested may not reflect the actual final meal served."
Gotcha.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:25 PM
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21. And this guy:
"1 bag of assorted Jolly Ranchers."

Gotta give him credit. He left his mark.
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CoffeePlease1947 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:33 PM
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22. lots of Chilly and cheese? I wonder if this guy died by the chair?
"Nachos with chili and cheese, one bowl of sliced jalapenos, one bowl of picante sauce, two large onions (sliced and grilled), tacos (with fresh tomatoes, lettuce, and cheese), and toasted corn tortilla shells"

He must have another motive here.

I would choose a blowfish. If they don't skin it right it could be deadly and they would have to delay the execution.



Mike
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:37 PM
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23. Florida is full of shit...that stat page is made to look as though
minorities don't get put to death in greater numbers but given that 78% of the population is white..it still indicates that minorities are more likely to get the death penalty.

What a crock!
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 01:19 AM
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24. I think it's interesting that they aren't allowed to smoke.
The ones requesting cigarettes got denied. I guess the state wants to make sure you're nice and healthy when they execute you.
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