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Tue Sep-09-03 07:39 PM
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DEM DEBATE ON FOX THREAD 3 |
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the other one is taking soooo long to load
oooh..back from commercial :)
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:41 PM
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1. Kerry = excuse-making machine |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:42 PM
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Admit it folks!!! Listen to him! We love him...the audience LOVES him! He stands for EVERYTHING we believe in. Now is the time to get behind him!!
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:44 PM
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:49 PM
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14. (ahem) he doesn't stand for everything i beleive in |
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Flag burning should not be a crime - I kinda like the first ammendment.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:59 PM
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Kucinich is an unabashed, outspoken, dead-on Democrat.
His ideas are by far the best and most in keeping with Democratic principles.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:44 PM
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3. Graham against Same-Sex marriage |
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well, he's off my list....
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:44 PM
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I didn't know exactly where he stood on the issue, but I didn't like his take on it at all.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:47 PM
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10. I thought he was going to say |
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something about approving CIVIL UNIONS---but didn't.
Said that marriage was an institution btwn a woman and a man with the PRIMARY GOAL OF NURTURING A CHILD---oh yeah? So I guess childless married couples should be shot by the state for not living up to their "primary goal of marriage"?
What about homosexuals with children? I guess they don't count either....
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:50 PM
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16. That's his own personal, religious opinion. |
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The important thing is civil unions, not 'marriage.'
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:54 PM
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that's fine and dandy===however |
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I don't agree with it. I think it's bigoted and anti-equal rights.
I wouldn't be making a big deal if he qualified his denouncement of gay marriage by saying something positive or supportive of civil unions.
But he didn't.
And he further added salt to the wound by saying that marriage was between a man and a woman with the PRIMARY GOAL OF RAISING A CHILD---strange, that, because I didn't marry my husband so that we could have a child. In fact, we're not going to have children.
So, according to Graham, because the PRIMARY GOAL of marriage is to raise and nurture a child, then my marriage is moot and should be invalidated because we're not living up to our primary goal of marriage.
He's also forgetting the LARGE number of homosexual couples that successfully raise very healthy, happy, and nurtured children...
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:56 PM
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78. i think he wants to make it clear |
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that the 'marriage' angle is bogus. gay people (and I'm one of them) don't expect EVERY denomination to sanction the unions of gay couples.
and we don't really care. PLENTY will.
the issue is and has always, only been. parity in couple's rights. respect for the legitimacy of gay couples.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:46 PM
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Edited on Tue Sep-09-03 07:48 PM by Rowdyboy
Social equality will come slowly, not all at once. To press for everything at once is to risk losing all we've gained. And he essentially supported legal equality...Where's the big problem?
Plus any candidate endorsing gay marriage in America today would instantly doom themselves to around 38% of the vote, nationally.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:45 PM
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6. Who do you like so far... |
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Dean...great come back against Leiberman... Kucinich is sounding good...!
Sharpton...making some noise...!
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:59 PM
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but then again, i like him the most----alot of people are saying alot of good things up there....then there are some people who I just want to shove a sock in their mouths.....
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:46 PM
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7. Gee, Juan...kinda leading the question aren't ya? |
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Edited on Tue Sep-09-03 07:47 PM by sfecap
Trying to get CMB to go after Dean...
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:47 PM
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9. What the hell was that question!?! |
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"Dean says white people don't need gun control." Idiot moderator.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:52 PM
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26. that idiot has been asking misleading question all night |
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especially for Dean, though he's been shitty with Kerry too
Fox, ya know, gotta "balance" things by asking O'Reilly-esque questions...
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 PM
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36. It's what Juan does. He's got his eyes on the prize: $$$$$ (NT) |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:47 PM
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will get to explain his position - knowing fox, they will ask him about something else.
also, dean should have gotten the civil unions question.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:48 PM
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12. What a shit question. |
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Implying that Dean thinks that black areas need gun control, but white areas don't. Blatant misrepresentation.
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Tue Sep-09-03 08:02 PM
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107. Juan gets his questions from the RNC!! What a freaking shock! |
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Sharpton's kicking his ass again, of course!
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:50 PM
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Juan was purposely distorting Dean's position to try to stir up racial anger against him. That was so apparent I couldn't believe it!
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Tue Sep-09-03 08:01 PM
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104. Glad Dean went back to the "gun" question and clarified his position |
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and put Juan in his place....the look on Juan's face...his eyes got all shifty.... Like that "rapid response" on Dean's part! Excellent work tonight. I've been a little uneasy about Dean so far in these debates and TV things,but he's VERY GOOD so far tonight!!
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:50 PM
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17. Let's see - all these assholes are a miserable failure |
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..except Dennis and Dean.............yep, sure, ...oh, I wish I had Fox on my cable. I guess the rest of them should just drop out. Losers all. No support. Bums. hmmmm... Wes need not apply either...........
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:51 PM
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:51 PM
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20. Did you hear that answer from Dean...!!! |
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Nice...
I think I even heard an amen from the Audience...!
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:51 PM
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21. What did Dean just say MLK and Trent Lott? |
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I just heard a lot of laughing but missed what was said.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 PM
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He said if ability to connect with African Americans |
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is linked to the population of African Americans in your state
then Trent Lott is MLK
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 PM
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41. If the percentage of African Americans in a state |
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equalled the ability to connect with African American voters, then Trent Lott would be MLK.
He also went back and took that idiot Juan Williams to task for his stupid question to CMB
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:56 PM
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:51 PM
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23. Another Larouche disruptor. |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:52 PM
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Fox HAD to have set that up!
I liked how Edwards used the time to ask about Dean's sticker: he's supporting the union on campus!
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:55 PM
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"I support the union on campus."
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39. Are those neo-cons disrupting...? |
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I would be embarrassed if I was a conservative having these people that can't contain themselves on National TV...
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:58 PM
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92. fortunately, their comments are not audible |
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but AS called them out as did CMB--did you do this at the Republicans' debate???
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:52 PM
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25. Dean made the laugh of the night |
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If state minority percentage is indicator of support of civil rights, Trent Lott would be Martin Luther King!
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 PM
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That was the best!!
Yes, please talk about teachers...and my $25K starting pay....BLAH!
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 PM
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45. A *GREAT* Dean line! (NT) |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:52 PM
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27. And *ANOTHER* Douche for LaRouche checks in (and out?) (NT) |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:54 PM
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54. The Ed GORDON Dude "Participates" in the Debate |
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He comments on their answers and "banters". 3rd Disruptor gone. SHARPTON scolding the disruptors.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:54 PM
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56. Joe is starting to lose it...did you see the look on his face? |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:52 PM
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28. Dean's wearing a pro-union sticker |
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He also was able to answer about the gun control question
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:52 PM
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32. This debate is going bad for all of em'... ick |
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They all seem to be stumbling and messing up.
I'm sure FOX is delighted.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 PM
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38. Kerry doesn't seem up to it. |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:55 PM
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70. He sounds hoarse again |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 PM
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43. I think Dean, DK and Edwards are doing well. |
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Dean and DK are much calmer than usual.
These disruptors are fucking pathetic....
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 PM
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44. Dean and Sharpton are doing well. Edwards is doing ok. |
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kerry is stumbling.
these hecklers are probably FOX plants.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:55 PM
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73. Edwards hit the voucher question out of the park |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 PM
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49. Heartlily disagree... |
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They are all doing wonderful with the obvious exception of Lieberman
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:55 PM
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57. Makes you think the disruptors ARE planted |
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To make the candidates look bad. This is pissing me off. Al is pissed. He's like, we got people that can take care of this security if you can't. Fucking Fox!
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75. Gee, ya think??? (NT) |
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90. I disagree completely. They're nearly all showing great grace under fire. |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:59 PM
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They are not all messing up |
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please don't bother disrupting here, we don't need you.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:59 PM
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97. Edwards seems on message-- nt |
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"I support the union on campus" --
AFSCME apparently attempting to unionize on campus
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 PM
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35. Excuse my ignorance, but who the FUCK is LaRouche? |
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59. LaRouche is a nutbar... |
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LaRouche is a nutbar who claims to be a Democrat but simply needs to be institutionalized.
Sharpton's on the attack!!! Smokin!!!!
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 PM
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42. Since I can't reply in thread 2... |
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What is with Dean saying he is the only white candidate who talks to wihites about black issues? isn't that a reach?
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:54 PM
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53. These interruptions are too numerous to be |
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And Brit Hume just giggles about it every time it happens.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 PM
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This hasn't happened at any of the other debates.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:55 PM
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These disruptions do NOT reflect well on fox.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:56 PM
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"Did they do this to republicans? They didn't do this to republicans" and I think she was talking about the disruptors.
They (the disruptors) are most CERTAINLY fox plants. or republican plants. or GOP plants....(not that there's any difference between them)
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48. So who allowed the nutjobs into the audience? |
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50. Another Larouche disruptor. |
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52. Another LaRouche disruptor ! |
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maybe they were hired by Fox !
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76. Joe just said a patronizing "Amen" to his "brother" |
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Rev. Sharpton. I am now joining the ranks of those of you who find him utterly disgusting.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:56 PM
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77. "There goes another supporter of LaRouche" |
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They plugged the bastard.
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is with these Larouche assholes? Al's slapping them down right now. Go Al!
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:55 PM
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65. THIS IS A FUCKING CIRCUS! |
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any COINCIDENCE THIS IS HAPPENING ON FAUX????
NOT!!!
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:55 PM
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58. Sharpton is raising up and representing |
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this whole debate is turning into a fucking freak show,.
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You got something to say, say it now!
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YOu give us this 'phony liberal' stuff.
Braun: Do you do this for Republicans?
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:55 PM
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63. Rove's disruptors are in da house! |
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if it keeps going the headlines will be about the disruptors.
Lieberman just called Sharpton his "good friend." Oh fuck you Joe.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:57 PM
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84. Phony kissing up will get you nowhere LIEberman |
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Even after kissing up, he gets lukewarm applause.
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Tue Sep-09-03 08:01 PM
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103. Al got an "Amen Brother" from Holy Joe! |
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Aahahahahahahaha!
That's comparable to me walking into a Black Panthers meeting and saying "Yo, where my homies at?" What a dumbass.
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69. I am getting suspicious... |
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Did Fox allow these disruptors in? On purpose?
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one is a fluke, but 3 or 4? nah, they have to be plants.
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without being spotted as disruptors :eyes:
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without being spotted as disruptors :eyes:
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72. Sharpton making the point |
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that these disruptors are not real liberals.
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:58 PM
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93. Maybe the LaRouche people are calling the panel |
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"phony liberals"???
Just conjecture. LaRouche is a Democrat.
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100. If LaRouche is a Democrat, I'm Eleanor Roosevelt. (NT) |
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74. Lieberman just said "Amen Brother" to Sharpton |
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85. End of Round (3?) - Somebody Start a New Thread |
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79. I'm On Radio/Internet Delay, But Sharpton is Kicking Ass! |
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What is it, Karl Rove? Is he tearing down democracy sending LaRouche disruptors to the Democratic debates?
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:57 PM
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83. Braun said disrupters are republicans. |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:58 PM
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87. Debate will be prtrayed as a Zoo by the Repuke press. |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:59 PM
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96. Democrats will bend to whatever Repuke media says |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:58 PM
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88. LIEberman just made me laugh out loud!!! |
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Invoking 2000... Talking about how blacks were denied their voting rights when they went to the polls in FL to "help elect Al Gore and ME!"
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Tue Sep-09-03 08:01 PM
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102. yeah, Al, what noise did YOU make when it happened? |
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answer: NONE!!!
Stupid fucker. I can't stand Joe Leiberman....and this debate is re-confirming every ounce of hatred I had for the man before tonight...
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:58 PM
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94. Even the commercials suck on FOX |
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I miss my TiVo! (Watching in a hotel)
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:59 PM
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98. Debate is a Total Loss at this point. |
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It will be portrayed as a zoo and no ones message is getting through.
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Tue Sep-09-03 08:01 PM
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101. And that's exactly what Faux wanted. |
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Tue Sep-09-03 08:02 PM
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106. None of my audio players will work |
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I can't find a WinAmp link
RealPlayer says I don't have a plug-in and MediaPlayer says file not compatible.
HELP!!!!!!!!!
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