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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:23 PM
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How many "Christians" will be angry about the end of child death sentences
Today SCOTUS decided in Roper v. Simmons, to abolish death sentences for people under the age of 18.

I wonder how many "good, moral, conservative Christians" will be nashing their teeth in anger that we no longer sentence people to death who aren't old enough to vote or sign a contract.

A pretty large number, I'm willing to bet. After all, killing kids is just what Jesus would have wanted.

:crazy:

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:24 PM
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1. oh yeah
they're all worked up over at Free Republic over this.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:25 PM
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2. The Freakers are all in uproar about
The nasty babykillers over there haven't had their blood sacfrifice for the day.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:42 PM
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3. What are we going to do with these criminals? . . .
The woman who raised me was dragged from her car at a busy intersection and shot twice through the left eye by a 16 year old killer and his 14 year old accomplice. They got 38 cents and a couple of years in juvenile hall, even though it wasn't the first felony offense by either guy. Both were released from prison within a few years, both killed again.

All intellectual arguments became dubious for me the day they killed Lucille. Intellectual awareness now does me no good. Emotionally, I knew in my heart that when someone picks up a weapon and uses it in anger they give up all right to claim childish innocence. But as I cannot divorce my emotions from my intellect in this instance, I've removed myself from the debate, though not from my interest and hope that society will one day resolve these perplexing issues.

So, what do we do with these criminals?
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:57 PM
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7. What about prison?
Are there no max security facilities in your state?
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 04:33 PM
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10. As I posted, both went to prison (juvenile hall). . .
and both were out within two years. Is that "maximum security"? Or was it just a "school for thugs," since both killed again within a very short time of their release.

No one wants to execute them. No one wants them to spend "hard time" with adults, since they'll supposedly be "corrupted" and learn new criminal behavior. And no one wants to keep them incarcerated for any substantial period of time. So essentially, no one wants to deal with them, yet we all remain at risk so long as such killers walk among us.

And what would be a "substantial" period of time when considering the life of a 14 year old murderous felon? Is four year's sufficient? Release at 25 is an option, but does it serve justice to the victim or the survivors? Can "life" be given to one so young, and is there such a thing as an "incorrigible" human?

And so I ask again, what are we going to do with these criminals? It's the same question I've asked every year since Lucille was murdered in 1973, and so far, no answer.
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:45 PM
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4. Can you be any more crude? Not every Christian is a right wing
nut-case. In fact, many of the progressive advances in this country were founded by Liberal Christians. We support equal rights for Gays, ending the death penalty and the like. We fought along side Women's suffrage, better housing, welfare, and such We are the Christians who are actually taught about our religion, when the bible was put together, the real meanings of passages, and no, the king James version is one of the worst translations, not the best like right wingers say. Liberal Christians are a great ally to the left. Don't blow us off like these evil greedy people who seek to corrupt my religions once great name.

We are Liberals, Democrats, Progressives, and I would appreciate if you wouldn't hang us out to dry like that.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:52 PM
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6. There was a reason why I wrote it "Christians" not Christians
My apologies for the subtlety.

:eyes:
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 04:02 PM
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8. ah, missed that little ""
apologies for the rant. Fighting a loosing battle to convince others that its not Christians that are the enemy, its fundamentalist Christians.

I am a science minded guy, and I have no problem with evolution or the like. Many normal Christians I know find that evolution is not a threat to Christianity at all, only a threat to biblical literalism. The literalism is the hallmark of a fundamentalist. People who believe that the King James Bible is the perfect translation and the uncorrupted recording of God's word, even though the first five books of the old testament were an oral history before the Hebrew elders recorded them onto parchment, and that the Bible was put together in a meeting in Constantinople in the 3rd century AD.

Real Christians know this. That meeting was to make sure that all Christians had a book that could keep them on the same page. Some sections, such as Paul's letters didn't have to be included, and in a modern sense, should not have.

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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:51 PM
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5. This Christian is thrilled with this
Now, we need to work on the abolishing of the adult death penalty
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 04:15 PM
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9. Christians will be OUTRAGED.
After all, they are the death penalty freaks who also support the war in Iraq, and maintain arsenals to support the 2nd Amendment at home.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 04:35 PM
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11. this decision marks the end of our culture
our value system DEMANDS retribution

Jeebiz requires BLOOD

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:09 PM
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12. Some on the right-wing cretin wing of Christianity may --
-- have to puzzle a bit over the difference between:

"Suffer the little children..." and

"Fry the little children."

But with proper guidance I'm sure they'll be able to make the distinction SOMEHOW.
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