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Free2BMe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 04:57 PM
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Are we really deadening ourselves to the facts that..
every other day we here of 3 or 4 more servicepeople are killed in Iraq...what has happened to the outrage about this war?...Have we become a country which goes back to our routine daily living and ignores the small clip on the front page of newspapers and evening news which reminds us that 3 or 4 more families have lost loved ones?..Where is the outrage amoung the elected officials and the country itself?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 04:59 PM
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1. We are definitely having our minds and hearts numbed to the tragedy
this country is pounding into the hearts and minds of Iraqis...
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:05 PM
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2. Enough Americans voted for more war, fear, manipulation, etc .
Give the people what they want.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:11 PM
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3. Zombies.....
Zombie - by The Cranberries

Another head hangs lowly,
Child is slowly taken.
And the violence caused such silence,
Who are we mistaken?

But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou...

Another mother's breakin',
Heart is taking over.
When the vi'lence causes silence,
We must be mistaken.

It's the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen.
In your head, in your head they're still fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are dying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, oh, oh,
Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, ya, ya-a...
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:20 PM
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4. You've answered your own question....
....Yes, many Americans just don't give a damn. This site does not represent the majority of Americans. It would be nice to think it does, but we are a minority. Most Americans are desensitized with Weapons of Mass Distractions, i.e., there's a new movie on at the cinemaplex they want to see, or there's going to be a special guest star on Everybody Loves Raymond that they've just got to watch, or what is Kidman and Cruise up to - will they get back together, or who wore what at the Oscars!, or JLo was too HOT in that dress! There's your "average" American. And then, of course, they have God telling Bush what to do, so there's no reason they have to worry about that....

Sad, isn't it.
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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:24 PM
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5. Helen Caldicott
She was on BookTV today, saying exactly what you bring up. But she also said that it's as close to impossible as you can get for her to get on a channel and a program that is watched by more than 5 people. And that's been the case for 20 years, since they did away with the fairness doctrine.

So it depends on who you talk about. The people that can get a voice on everyday TV, for the most part, have gone back to their daily routine. That includes Democrats or people left of center. But then that's why they're usually the ones that get picked to appear on those shows.

Don't wait for outrage from elected officials, outside of a very few.

And the most important part is that the people currently in power don't really give a damn. They will do, or try to do, everything that they want. They're not going to stop.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:32 PM
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7. "They're not going to stop."....
...You are correct. Sometimes in real life, things don't always have a good ending....
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:42 PM
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12. Saw her this afternoon, too!
She is inspirational. Made me wanna go out and WORK for the world. Fundie crazies and world rapers and killers should be VERY afraid of her and those like her. She quietly tells the truth and will NOT stop.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:28 PM
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6. It's scattered grief....
If 50 GIs are killed at once, it's a tragedy and is all over the TV.. However, if the 50 are "scattered" over a month's time, it doesn't seem to matter...
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:34 PM
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8. Is there a website that lists the
servicemen killed in Iraq?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:38 PM
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11. Yes here is the one I found to be very accurate and respectful
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:36 PM
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9. for me personally ...NO
each one breaks my heart .

also the suffering of the ones coming home Alive
but broken , brings tears to my eyes .

The military families need support and we need
to listen .

http://www.optruth.org
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:37 PM
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10. If you expose a nerve long enough it will become desensitized.
In time it loses it ability to feel. That's like what's being done to the American public. Regular small doses of tragedy have caused many to lose their ability to feel what they should be feeling.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 06:20 PM
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13. More people than that
are killed everyday in automobile accidents, and there is also no outrage, although various proposals are are constantly floated to reduce these deaths.

It's not the numbers that are killed that matters. It is why they died. One sex-murder, or hate-crime murder, will achieve a far higher level of outrage than 100s of car accidents, or 10 war casualties.

If you want to raise the outrage level, you have to attack, not the deaths, deaths and maiming happen in war, but the reasons, or the causes of the war. IMO, I think the American voter will support far higher casualties, if they believe that the war is justified, and that the leaders (Bushco) are trying to win it.

That is what you have to attack.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 06:37 PM
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14. It seems that most Amerikans accept the casualties..
as part of the price for Freedom. Even though millions now feel that the invasion was a mistake they feel that now that the U.S. is there it must complete the mission of having Iraq be able to protect itself from the Insurgents.

I believe that the U.S. invaded Iraq illegaly for oil and strategic military positioning in the ME.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 07:25 PM
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15. I won't say that
I disagree. As I said, it is why they die, not how many die, that is important.
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