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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:51 PM
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Bankruptcy Bill - did Lieberman vote NO or just not vote? nt
nt
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:53 PM
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1. He voted against the bill n/t
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:59 PM
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5. Thanks to bluebear, I amend my remarks. Thanks for nothing.
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 09:33 PM by autorank
Lieberman, you voted for cloture. Very clever, enough for me anyway abut not for BlueBear!

On edit: A mistaken thank you to the tricky Lieberman erased thanks to a heads up from BlueBear!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:12 PM
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11. Remember his cloture vote before you swallow the words
I don't want anything coming up on you :hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:32 PM
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14. Thank you. I erased all evidence of my impulsive turnabout!
Bluebear :yourock: owe you one dude!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:28 PM
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17. Cheers autorank!
:toast:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:45 PM
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21. I don't know. He voted for almost all the Dem amendments
and against the bill itself. How does cloture balance against those votes.

Who voted against cloture?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:53 PM
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23. Well, against cloture=no filibuster. Kills a chance to stop the bill ...
...knowing that he can vote against it and still get credit with the $$$'s boys; why, because they know cloture was the vote and his no vote was just for, a hmm, "domestic consumption" in CT. It's an old Washington trick. People like Bluebear, who research before they pop off (unlike me), catch these things and keep optimists like me under control.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:00 PM
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24. For the record, here's the rollcall for cloture
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:53 PM
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2. Time for someone to post the total roll call on the vote for that bill
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:57 PM
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4. Here's the link
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00044#position


NAY Votes

Akaka (D-HI)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Wyden (D-OR)

Yea votes

Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Burr (R-NC)
Byrd (D-WV)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Salazar (D-CO)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:02 PM
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8. Not one Repbublican voted against the bill.
I don't like that Biden etc. voted for the bill, but the Repbulican Party is worse.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:15 PM
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12. I'm hoping it comes back to haunt them.
Their constituents will also be hurt by this. I don't think it's going to be the cakewalk they are expecting. The same applies to the Dem's who voted yes.
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:43 PM
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15. God Damn you Kohl!
Every D who voted for this needs to go.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:44 PM
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20. Clinton abstained? I almost expected her to vote yes, the way she's been
lately.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:46 PM
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22. She was at the hospital with Bill. n/t
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:10 PM
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25. Ohhh yeah, that makes sense. -nt-
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:55 PM
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3. He voted No. Surprise, But he also voted against all the amendments
which took the usefulness out of his vote. He knew it would then easily pass the repuke majority!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:01 PM
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6. It was a cheap, free, easy "no" vote
One of those wink and nods (gee guys, everyone knows I'm really a republican....ya need to let me vote 'no' on this one because you have the votes lined up, wink wink wink)
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:01 PM
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7. Yup. No props here!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:03 PM
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9. I'm confused, another thread on DU claims that Lieberman voted
...for all of the amendments. They also say he voted for Cloture, whatever that was.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:26 PM
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13. Cloture means it's forced to go to vote.
No more negotiations (amendments).

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 06:50 AM
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26. Well, that was used to break further negotiations on an unfair...
...bill then, so the bill essentially was forced through for a premature vote because the minority was not allowed to be fully heard. Crap!
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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:11 PM
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10. Lieberman voted for Cloture
Which is much worse than those that voted for the bill. The bill would have passed with our without the Democrats. The 13 democrats that voted to let the bill get an up or down boat are the ones that are really to blame. That includes Lieberman.

He makes the credit card companies happy by voting for cloture while thinking his no on passage will please the base. We aren't stupid Joementum. We will remember the cloture vote!!
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:43 PM
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16. lieberman sucks!
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:35 PM
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18. So which Dem voted against the amendments? -nt
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:41 PM
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19. there were dozens of ammendments
and many voted for and against. check cspan.
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