National Call to Action:Student Walk Outs March 31st-No Draft No Way

[chlamor]

March 31 National call to action.

No Draft, No Way!

On March 31, the Selective Service System (SSS) will report to President Bush that it is ready to implement the draft within 75 days. Right now, the SSS is staffing local draft boards, training volunteer registrars to work on high school and college campuses, and streamlining its induction process. They have also gained access to the Department of Education's computer files, to ensure maximum registration.

It is clear that the Bush Administration is preparing for a draft. They are desperate for new soldiers to continue the occupation of Iraq and to prepare for new wars against Iran, Syria, and elsewhere.

At the same time that Bush is looking to youth to supply cannon fodder for his wars, he is busy cutting financial aid and slashing social programs. The same young people that Bush wants to use to fight his wars are finding it harder to pay for their education, find jobs that pay a living wage, or obtain basic necessities, like health care or affordable housing.

It is time for young people, who are already under attack from the Bush Administration, to take a stand.On March 31, the same day that the Selective Service System is reporting that the draft is ready to go, youth all over the country will report that they will refuse to go.
Local No Draft, No Way organizers and other anti-draft activists are planning protests, walkouts, and direct action at recruiting centers, selective service offices, and other sites. We call upon students, youth, and antiwar activists to organize local actions on March 31 to say "No Draft, No Way!"

http://www.nodraftnoway.org/

[diamond14]

1. proves that DUers are COMPLICIT IN THEIR SILENCE on the Iraqi war

the 'draft age' DUers are definitely going like sheep to the slaughter....while you threw them a line AGAIN to pull to safety....NOT ONE SINGLE DUer bothered to respond to your post, let most to take action on that life-line....


the SILENCE you hear is the chattering chattering chattering about a corpse that has been brain-dead for 15 years....


in that SILENCE, if I listen carefully, I can here the engine starting....and real soon....that BIG SUCKING SOUND will begin....





the bushites have the DRAFT now setup, so that withing 75 days, these "draft-age" DUers could be standing on the Iraq sand inhaling Depleted Uranium dust, while wiping those sand fleas off their ankles in 120 degree heat....


that's how it was for Vietnam, as I remember that BIG SUCKING SOUND...one day, you were going to school, or fixing cars, or kissing your girlfriend, and in a matter of weeks...you were over in Vietnam, trying to survive, in a real-life survival show....over 58,000 didn't make it (mostly 18 -24 year olds)...and when bush* starts ratcheting up his Iraq/Afghanistan AND Syria/Iran WARS (which could happen any day now)...young 'draft-age' DUers will find out why they're called "CANNON FODDER".....they can lie awake in the hot desert sands and wonder why they spent all their time COMPLICIT IN THEIR SILENCE, when they could have spent that time SAVING THEIR OWN LIVES (chatter chatter chatter chatter about a corpse that has been brain-dead for 15 years..chatter chatter...every single shiavo DU post SILENCES the Pro-Peace events and DRAFT activism 'calls to action')....



Vietnam 1966...

[chlamor]

5. Thanks- I've got that Sinking Feeling

I'm really befuddled/disappointed that Schiavo Nation has infected DU.

"every single schiavo DU post SILENCES the Pro-Peace events..."

U(United) S(Schiavoans) of A(Amnesia)

Not a single freakin' glance-bizarre. Posted in Activism and 3 have seen this call to action. That forum isn't so widely viewed it seems. We are so complacent as a nation and I think resigned to being led to slaughter. Not for me.

Peace to you brother

[MattNC]

6. maybe not all DU'ers..

think a draft is going to happen.

[diamond14]

7. perhaps that's why you are going like sheep to the slaughter...

those of us old enough to have survived Vietnam will never forget it, that BIG SUCKING SOUND....


my cousin was KILLED in Vietnam, 19 years old, HM3 Navy Medic, Silver Star, Purple Heart DEAD....wasn't even allowed to vote...


the draft engine has already started...and when it KICKS in, you'll hear it too...that BIG SUCKING SOUND....it'll be too late once you realize what that noise is....

make your plans....


if your plan is to just SIT THERE and pretend it's not happening...well, that's OK with me....the DRAFT will SUCK YOU UP first, while others are RIGHT NOW making THEIR plans not to be CANNON FODDER for bush* wars....



from your home in America to Vietnam in just a couple weeks....

[Rex]

9. My uncle was in Vietnam, he still has severe mental problems.

Was in the Air Guard somewhere in Vietnam, sitting on a log with a friend. Just chit chatting away about life back home. Next thing he knows a sniper gets a headshot on his friend and he's ducking for cover. Now I know my uncle, he probably has that image tortured into his brain forever! I know he asks 'why him and not me'. He won't talk about other things while he was there and no one asks him out of respect. Wars fuck people over.

[sazemisery]

69. Because Bush says so?

Come on.

[Wilms]

2. kick n/t

[TahitiNut]

3. Welcome to my world in 1968. Drafted. Sent to Vietnam.

That was before the draft was 'fixed' too. A draftee still has three primary choices: (1) go, (2) go to jail, or (3) go to another country. Take solace that the time in prison probably wouldn't be any longer than the time in service.

The 'fault' lies with a citizenry who elect madmen and spend more on military power than the rest of the world combined ... 'cause it's not their ass (or their child's) on the line. They can depend on 'volunteers' for that and that's enough to escape any responsibility.

I favor a draft ... or, better, universal national service. Democracy is about walking the walk.

[flygal]

12. I see your point

but I'm sure the rich repugs will weasel their way out of real service. And then show up in 25 years to run for office on their service record.

I remember in 1986 a song came out about Vietnam called "19" that was the average age of soldiers killed. We talked about in a high school class and all decided we would never see another Vietnam again - we learned our lesson...

[rockedthevoteinMA]

4. Thank you chlamor for posting this-

I received a flyer about this at the protest yesterday.

[DerekG]

8. Kick...

Maybe ya should have put "abortion" in the title--that would draw in some posters...

[sazemisery]

70. Maybe the title should have been--

SSS not in persistent vegetative state?

[rocktop15]

10. Don't think that there will be a draft....

I'm 19 and my world would be shaken if there was a draft. I can not foresee a draft happening anytime soon because what political party would take that chance? They wouldn't get reelected for 12 years! Noam Chomsky had a recent article about the draft and said he does not believe the draft will come back. You can't take average citizens and expect them to be trained killers.....the US DOD found that out in Vietnam.

If a draft did indeed occur I would not be a part of it. My parents have already said we would sell our house and move to New Zealand, Sweden, Amsterdam, Switzerland,etc.

[diamond14]

15. parents who still have a 19 year old in their home

are very happy when some external force gets their kid UP and motivated in life....


19 years-old is way too old to still be living at home....I moved out right after finishing high school, as did all of my friends and schoolmates....


this draggging along....and living with parents after 17 or 18 is really driving MY generation crazy...it seems to be some kind of NEW phenomena that's set in, because the draft disappeared now for a while, and young people feel no pressure to GROW UP and MOVE OUT....a LOT of people in their mid-50's want their lives back, and their children to MOVED OUT....


you might be rudely awakened as that bush* draft BIG SUCKING SOUND is heard....many American parents will be PLEASED that their kid GOT OUT OF THE HOUSE and UP OFF THE COUCH, and is wearing a nice brisk-looking military uniform with hair cut, and being polite and on-time, etc.

if it's an external force (THE DRAFT) that makes you get off their couch, that'll be fine with them. Because any and all mentally healthy Parents want to move on with their lives ALONE...and MOVE OUT the kid that they finished raising....

my close friends were so tired of having their 19 year-old on their couch...that they just up and sold the house...MOVED out of Colorado and back to Michigan...they wished their kid well, leaving him in Denver, since he's all grown up...the kid was SHOCKED to realize that their move did not include him....working now in Denver at a fast food restaurant, this guy is PERFECT for military recruitment or DRAFT...there's lot of people like that, and like YOU, who seem to be just WAITING FOR THE BIG SUCKING SOUND to arrive....


since you have no plans, and do not believe the draft will come to you...that is not a problem....Uncle Sam has a plan for you, and it's better if you don't believe it's going to happen, so it's a SURPRISE ! without the element of surprise, the lumpenproletariat may get restless ...that's how Vietnam was....

[Name removed]

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[rocktop15]

35. Let me rephrase my deleted message.

Quit saying ignorant things.

You say I have no plans?

1) I attend UTC full time majoring in Poly Sci and have around 65 hours.
2) I work a part time job with an appraisal firm.
3) I volunteer locally with the peace organizations and am a very big activist involved in several activites.
4) I have a very chill setup--I don't bother my parents, they don't bother me---we have a 6000 square foot house---I don't sleep on the couch thank you very much.

I don't smoke pot and play Xbox all day buddy. Quit making blanket, ignorant statements.

[DerekG]

39. There is nothing wrong with your living situation, rocktop15

Some people are rather hardassed about rugged individualism. There is no shame in living at home while being a college student and/or working; your parents have allowed you to avoid being yet another 18-25 year old consumer who has accrued thousands of dollars of debt.

[rockedthevoteinMA]

48. Rocktop, don't take personal offense, I did a few months ago to

something stated in just about the same way. I guess it's just the passion some activists have, grouping us all together, when MANY of us are working are butts of in school, jobs, and activism.

Congrats on your hard work :hi:

[knitter4democracy]

44. There's no need for ageism here.

Be careful of making blanket statements attacking fellow Dems when you don't know them. A lot of 19 y.o.'s living at home are going to college and trying to keep their costs down. Others are taking care of sick parents or siblings. Be careful of ageism, as it usually turns around and bites you in the butt.

[raccoon]

61. I strongly disagree

that "19 years-old is way too old to still be living at home"

It's far more difficult for a young person to move out & set up housekeeping nowadays than it was 30 years ago.

Rent & other expenses have increased more than wages. And good paying jobs are MUCH harder to find.

If somebody is living at home, doing nothing, that's one thing; if they're living at home, also going to school and/or working, that's a different matter.

[Silverhair]

59. You CAN take average citizen and train them to be killers.

The average soldier on all sides in WWII was a draftee.

[free_spirit82]

11. Older people

A lot of older people that I have talked to, like 55+ years old, think that the draft is "a great idea". Because it would teach these youngsters of today some discipline. :puke:

Does anyone know the specifics of this draft....like who will be drafted, what age, etc.?

[diamond14]

16. Welome to DU, free_spirit82 ! how's things up there on the AFB?

I have some real good friends who run a bed-and-breakfast in North Pole...


Gerry and I grew up as next door neighbors in Detroit. When the BIG SUCKING SOUND came, Gerry was drafted for Vietnam, eventually ending up at Ft. Wainwright, near you....eventually, he finished his military tour of duty and became a Army Civilian on the base...now he's retired....he kicked his 19 year-old kid off the couch and OUT OF THE HOUSE a couple of years ago....


:toast:

[free_spirit82]

17. Hello

Things suck up here! Ft. Wainwright is pretty good as far as bases go though, we recently went there to have baby #2.

The most recent person I have had an argument about the draft with is one of my grandmothers. She had my 25 year old cousin living in her guest room for the past 5 years.....the only reason he's gone now is because he went to jail on drug charges. Drugs that my grandmother helped him fund. I don't think we need a draft to teach the "youngsters" discipline, I think we need better parenting.

[diamond14]

19. Grandma's suffer a LOT...now if there was a DRAFT, your 25 year-old

cousin would never have moved into your Grandma's house, sparing her all that grief....Uncle Sam would have provided your 25 year-old cousin some housing, minimal as it may be....along with all his food...


that story is EXACTLY why many people think the draft will be fine....first, there's absolutely NO SHOW of resistance from today's DRAFT-age people, AND hardly any of them vote (less than 18 % in the last election), thus freeing any Congress Reps from even listening to their draft complaints...and all the suffering Grandma's and Parents of America will be so damn happy to get those 19 year-olds up off their couches and OUT OF THEIR HOUSES....and they will comfort themselves in the delusion that THEIR KID will not be killed or maimed over in Afganistan/Iraq/Iran/Syria...and will come home with a CAREER....


be nice to your Grandma, she sounds like an extremely GENEROUS woman, who would share her home with a 25 year-old relative....I would not be so generous with my home....


"Old men make wars....young men fight wars"

[July]

30. Don't despair. I know lots of "older" people who are dead set against it.

Draft ages will be 18-26, probably, starting with those turning 20 in the year the draft begins (so if you turn 20 this year -- at any time in this year -- you would be in the first batch of those called up if the draft is restarted this year). Goes up to 26, then down to the younger ones. Could include females. No college deferments, just the chance to finish out the term. Supposedly, Canada has an agreement with us to return those trying to evade the draft there, but it's not clear that Canada would really cooperate in that effort.

[free_spirit82]

56. I'm worried...

I'm 22, I'm married, and have two small children. I'm right in the "prime" age to get drafted..if they include females. My husband is already in the military, so he would not be able to care for my children while I'm gone. The grandparents are unable to care for them long-term. I'm trying not freak out until I learn the specifics....but I'm already pricing a move to Australia.

[Daphne08]

36. Well I'm old, and I think it's a horrible idea.

No offense to you (I can see that you're disgusted, too), but did those 55+ older people ever get sent to Vietnam or Korea?

I honestly don't know any specifics, and don't really want to know, but back then, they drew names by dates of birth... a lottery-type thing. You were assigned a number according to your birthdate.

[DerekG]

13. Kick

n/t

[Mick Knox]

14. Draft coming soon KICK!

[anarchy1999]

18. Okay, I'm in on this one. I've refused to be a part for many months,

This One I can not and will not step away from. Sign me up, but I can't and will not be a member of any board.

This is a heartbreak for us all.

Go to

everychurchapeacechurch.

Maybe

www.ecapc.org or com

[rockedthevoteinMA]

20. kick for the morning crowd. n/t

[diamond14]

21. kick....

:nuke:

[guinivere]

22. kick

I am very, very afraid this is going to happen.

Why doesn't their right to life crap apply here?

[diamond14]

23. SAVE YOURSELVES, young draft-aged DUers....

there's no time left.....

[diamond14]

24. SAVE YOURSELVES, young draft-aged DUers....

there's no time left.....

[Pool Hall Ace]

26. Endless wars

I don't see how a draft can be avoided. Of course they may not call it a draft.

[raccoon]

62. Seems like they'll have to start a draft

although as you say they'll probably call it something else.

A draft does seem like political suicide to the Republican party. However, a lot of the other things that they've managed to pull off since 2000, I would've never believed would happen....but they did happen. For instance, the invasion of Iraq, and so many sheeple just went along with it. Almost as bad--worse, maybe, were the type 2 sheeple who said, US shouldn't have done the invasion, but now we've got to support it.

I hated the draft in the late 60's, early '70s, but I think that might be the only thing that would make a lot of Americans wake up and see what's going on in the US.

[robertpaulsen]

27. Kicked, bookmarked & nominated. Thanks chlamor!

This is very important and must be read by all at DU.

Thank you!

:kick:

[knitter4democracy]

28. It's not just the 19 y.o.'s either.

Those new draft rules say that they can call up my husband well into his forties for being a doctor--how the hell would we live without him? Who'd pay his med school loans back--the government?! Oh, yeah, like they'd pay over $1100 every month for the whole time he's gone.

They also can draft me, apparently, as I'm under 36 and have some language skills. How would my kids survive? Who'd pay for all the childcare--the government?! Hell'd freeze over first.

This is scary, and we need to fight it tooth and nail.

[Greybnk48]

29. kick

[unhappycamper]

31. does the government lie?

when tricky dick nixon went on tv in 1971 and assured the sheeple we would never invade cambodia, i was at a base camp 100 meters inside the cambodia border.

run, forrest, run.

p.s. it ain't fun getting shot at.

[Wilms]

32. Burn it n/t

[soup]

33. nominated and the site bookmarked

thank you for sharing the site and info with us.

Ordered a no draft no way t-shirt for my 17 year old to wear on the 31st.

and giving a this is dropping too quickly :kick:

[Daphne08]

34. I hope and pray that young

and old alike will fight like Hell to stop a military draft.

Have we learned nothing?

[robertpaulsen]

37. Link to How to Stay Out of the Military A Primer on Draft Resistance

I found this on the OP link and I think everyone should read this. Anyone of draft age should BOOKMARK THIS for future reference.

http://www.nodraftnoway.org/Primer.pdf

[robertpaulsen]

40. Kick for the evening crowd.

:kick:

[robertpaulsen]

46. Kick for the Wednesday crowd.

:kick:

[robertpaulsen]

47. Kick for the Sick of Schaivo Stories crowd.

:kick:

[Beam Me Up]

49. I'll kick to that! n/t

[robertpaulsen]

53. Thanks! Here's an Easter Sunday Kick.

:kick:

[robertpaulsen]

63. Monday kick.

:kick:

[robertpaulsen]

66. Tuesday kick

:kick:

[robertpaulsen]

67. One Day More...

:kick:

[robertpaulsen]

68. Today is the day!

Any stories out there?

:kick:

[katinmn]

38. Kick!

:kick:

[Wilms]

41. .

[seemunkee]

42. Thanks good stuff

Got an 18 year old and this worries me sick. He's documenting himself as a CO.
My 15year old daughter is doing a research paper on the draft for school. No prompting from me it was her idea. She can use this info also.

[bushcrab]

43. ThankYou Chlamor! I've got three step-sons, 22, 19 &18,

they've all been tormented with my tirades denouncing our evil leadership these past few years. Maybe now they'll think that NOW is a good enough time to stand up and do a little screamin'.

Making a few copies of your link to pass out. Thanks!

[meganmonkey]

45. KICK

:kick:

[chlamor]

50. Are you organizing at your school?

If so post your action. Let's use this opportunity not only to oppose the draft but to draw attention to the massacre in Iraq and the suffering in Iraq and Afghanistan caused by this criminal administration and how it is stealing from childrens programs here at home.

[countryjake]

51. kick for our kids

[Biology]

52. draft doubtful

Personally, I think reinstatement of the draft is highly unlikely. First, last time I heard, you have enough moderate republican congressmen and women who would break ranks and would vote with the democrats "no." Second, the executive and legislative branches of the government know that they would take a hit on their voting base since a lot of republicans also oppose the draft; especially a lot of the up and coming college youths (and parents of these youths) that they are desperately trying to capture. I think they know that they would trade the draft for a lot of electoral races. Third, the military doesn't want a bunch of people in the military that don't want to be there. They've stated as such. You end up with discipline problems and people who opt to do their job less effectively than someone who is eager to be there.

Nonetheless, I think it is critical for the youth of America to stand up and clearly emphasize that a reinstatement of the draft is not good for the country.

[earth mom]

55. In case you haven't noticed enlistment is down...way down...

and evil * & Co want to go to war with Iran...just who are they gonna get to go there? Not to mention the draft board has been put on notice to have everything ready by mid June...sorry, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what these evil bastards have in mind. :grr:

[Zhade]

54. Kick

And I'd like to "kick" every DUer who supports this illegal war, too.

[all.of.me]

57. i didn't see this until tonight!

i will pass this around. thanks.

i have a daughter almost 15. if they reinstate the draft and include females, i am leaving the country.

[chlamor]

58. Stop the Illegal and Immoral Occupation

and maasacre of Iraq.

Without additional troops the PNACers can't carry out thteir agenda-Time for young people to resist the greedy dreams of old Generals and chicken hawks.

[KansDem]

60. I know how you feel: I've got a daughter 13...

And if this war drags on for years like BushCo has said it might, my daughter could also be drafted. I'm fighting this tooth and nail for her and everyone else's kid (I have friends with sons in their late 'teens).

[mainer]

64. General Zinni says No draft is possible right now

I heard him give a keynote speech at a local conference. When asked about the draft, he said that he doesn't think it's likely. His reason? Unwilling soldiers are the last people you want in the military right now.

p.s.; Zinni was very much against the iraq war

[newyawker99]

65. kick