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bunnyhop Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 05:55 PM
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Al-Quaida setting forest fires in America? Anyone else hear this.?
I caught the tail end of an interview on TV where they discussed this. Have to admit it does seem like a pretty risk free way for terrorists to hurt america. Then again, maybe Rove is doing it and blaming al-quaida.
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Friar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 09:48 PM
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1. yeah, I heard that.
It's not beyond the realm of possibility.
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lkinsale Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 09:51 PM
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2. Yes, it was posted yesterday...
And some people were ridiculing it, but I'm not.

It would be too easy and too devastating to shrug off. Though I don't konw what can be done about it, in all honesty. Last year in New Mexico, they closed the national forests :( because of fire hazard. Even afterward, a guy was caught setting one, just by dumb luck in that a ranger happened to see him. Terrorists would be another matter.

If Rove would do something like that, well...*fantsizes evil people roasting in flames of their own making*
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bunnyhop Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:10 PM
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9. Colorado was shut down last year's summer too
Practically all the national forest land was closed to hiking and camping for 6 weeks or so. The great Hayman fire did a huge amount of damage - burned about 200 sq miles. More fires this summer though none have been real big. Had a decent snowfall last winter.
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tonyblurr Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:42 AM
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15. Picture of a UFP. Unidentified Flying Pig
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 12:43 AM by tonyblurr


U.F.P

They EXIST!
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 09:58 PM
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3. It's BS
Al Qada wants you to know when they hit you. They are not going to secretly start forest fires and sit back and rub their hands together.
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tonyblurr Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:09 AM
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12. BS EXACTLY
You hit the nail right on the head EXACTLY Brian Sweat...thats if they existed in the USA.

We see the hand of Rummy here.It must be REDRUMsfeld and his office of disinformation starting these wild fire rumors.

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 09:58 PM
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4. well, consider this....
Edited on Sat Jul-12-03 09:59 PM by mike_c
1) as terrorism goes, this is pretty small potatoes.

2) fire is more often good for forests than bad (although admittedly wildfires do set the clock back a bit further than most natural fire regimes presumably do)-- the "dangers" are primarily to timber extraction business (not terrorism by any means IMO) and to people living in relatively remote areas. Again, not very effective terrorism.

Hell, if bin Laden wants to reintroduce fire in western forests, I say:

"Bring it on!"
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lkinsale Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:07 PM
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6. You think they'd set em out in the remote wilderness? *rolls eyes*
Get real. Live in a western city in a drought for a couple of years, and then shrug it off. Or talk to a fire crew.

Bah, tired of trying to reason with people who live in humid climates. I'm sure it's like anything else--if it's not in your backyard, who cares?
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bunnyhop Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:13 PM
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10. I don't buy that at all
If you lived out west you'd know that forest fires are a huge problem.
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angka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:02 PM
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5. great fearmongering for the rocky mountain west
last year we endured the largest wildfire in colorado history, which came within a few miles of forcing the evacuation of tens of thousands of people in southwest denver.

if i was looking to terrorize people here (which reliably increases the republican vote) i would work this story. it was in the rocky mountain news this morning...
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lkinsale Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:09 PM
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8. Remember the Australian fires that ringed a city and closed in?
That's what they'd do.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:08 PM
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7. It's been tried.
During WW2, the Japanese loaded incendiery bombs on balloons and attempted to ignite the forests in the Pacific Northwest.
Don't laugh, they managed to kill a picnic group who found one of the deflated balloons (with bomb attached) and set it off.
No serious fires were started.
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tonyblurr Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:57 PM
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11. Lee Harvey Oswalqaeda?
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 12:12 AM by tonyblurr
INCOMING RANT...

If that is true then WHO THE FLOCK has bin setting all those fires all those past years?if you can believe al qaeda is responsible for the fires today then you'll believe it when we say LEE HARVEY OSWALQAEDA killed jfk.

Lets get one thing straight: there are no al qaeda or any other sleeperrorists in the USA. its all a myth...tales told by bush rummy cheney fridge and ashcroft to scare us into FUNDING their war chests their hidden agendas and their phoney warrenterra.

Why do we say with such certainty that there are no terrorists in the usa? asides form the fact thats since 911 there has bin NO other attack when there could have bin one every day?Bin laden didnt have a clue on 911... he gloated but he was clueless...ask blusharon about 911...they have the PROOF but have yet to show us.TONY BLAIR ASSURED US BUSH SHOPWED HIM IRREFUTABLE PROOF HAT BIN LADEN MASTEMINDED 911...but he cant show us.

No terrorists in the usa?

Yes Virginia there are no terrorists in the USA.Its all in the mind.

And dont say 911 was "terorists" we YET have to see proof. Sorry.But for something of that MAGNITUDE, we NEED proof. Not some lying nose picking chimp and his pet poodles word for it.

Bush and Blairhead have no crediblity w/ us.

Plus we believe THEY MASTERMINDED 911.

No terrorists in the USA.Terrorists in Washington.A regime that is terrorizing us all.

Lets just take LA AIRPORT for example:

ANY TERRORIST driving on the freeways by the los angeles and john wayne airports and seeing those planes land SO LOW SO CLOSE (you can almost see the pilot in his cockpit) to the freeway and those houses and hotels by the freeway could pull out an M16 available in any gun store and empty the magazine and shoot at the pilot or engine or gas tank of a 747 plane down and drive away easily and the crash could kill hundreds on the plane and not a few dozen more innocent victims on the ground by the airport that is densely populated.Are we making sense?

NO WEAPON of MASS DESTRUCTION necessary. Just your user friendly M16 or one of those rpropelled grenades courtesy of the NRA lobby and the relaxed gun laws.

But thats besides the point.

The point is why hasn't such a terrorist attack of that sort happened? Why have we had NO TERROR ATTACKS ALL OVER THE heartland in almost 2 years?

Despite Ashcrofts daily prayers for something Spectacular?

Hint: Its not due to increased security.

Simply because there ARE no terrorists in our midst.

The terror in our midst is a myth.

The real terrorists are in Washington terrorizing US an unsuspecting allbelieving public.

Those planes landing in LA should be diverted to land from the sea.Its only a matter of time before some kook NOT terrorist gets this idea.We dont think we're the only people who drive on the LA airport freeway who get this horrible thought every time a plane swoops down so low above our car.If theres anyone whos in charge of zoning or whatever in LA and Orange counties who is reading this please see what you can do to divert those planes landing to both John Wayne and LA airports from landing OVER the freeway to landing from the sea ,so as to PREVENT a local kook or an even bigger spook like Rummy from using one of his thousands and thousands of stockpiled surface to air missles and doing something like this and then BLAME AL QUAEDA for it.

END RANTSFELD.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:15 AM
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13. My son's a firefighter
There is no rash of manmade fires this year. In fact, he's only worked one week this fire season. There's been a few big fires, but so far, fairly quiet considering. I wouldn't worry about al qaeda fires just yet. Although we did talk about it last summer, it would be a really frightening event.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:16 AM
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14. And they kicked over my trashcans last night
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tonyblurr Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 04:20 PM
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16. Al qaeda responsible for HAIRIEL FLIESHERS hair loss and lip enhancement?


Al qaeda responsible for HAIRIEL FLIESHERS hair loss and lip enhancement?
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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 05:10 PM
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17. Heard it last year
With all the fires and personally I don't believe it. They want to hit big visible targets: WTC, big cities, military bases, embassies and so on, not small towns out west.

Besides there's enough stupid people here, Al-Qaida doesn't need to help. The Rodeo-Chedeski fire here in AZ was started by a lost hiker. The drought here is bad. I can't remember the last time we had a good rain, but lots of dry lightning.
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