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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:02 PM
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Gov. Bush: I can't help Terri Schiavo
TALLAHASSEE, Florida (CNN) -- Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said on Sunday there is nothing else he can do to save Terri Schiavo's life.

"I cannot violate a court order," Bush said after attending Easter Sunday church services. "I don't have powers from the United States Constitution or -- for that matter from the Florida Constitution -- that would allow me to intervene after a decision has been made."

To Terri Schiavo's parents -- who have said Bush should do more to help their daughter -- the governor said: "I can't. I'd love to, but I can't."

con't http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/27/schiavo/index.html
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:03 PM
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1. Aw come on Jeb
What's violating the Constitution or breaking a few laws for you guys. Starting to make me think you don't really "care" about Terri.
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:03 PM
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2. Darn
I was hoping he would try appeasing his fundie fanatic base, and permanently kill his political career.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:04 PM
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3. I may get flamed
But I'll be the first to applaud Jeb Bush. I know he tried to send his state gestapo in before but he could have escalated this into pure facism and he's apparently either smarter than that or has some respect for the constitution.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:06 PM
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Or he took a look at the polls regarding Terri Schivo and got scared.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:07 PM
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9. I don't give him credit
He knows damn well and good there isn't enough support for him to overthrow the judiciary at this time. They thought they'd have wider support and they didn't.

It's all about political pandering, first with his grandstanding that he could do something and now with his apologies that he can't do anything.

I guarantee you, if just a third of those polled supported action by Jeb, he'd fucking do it in a New York minute.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:10 PM
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14. flame flame flame on you.
No seriously, I am inclined to want to agree, but I know what sort of a scum weasel he really is. I think he may be a few watts brighter than some of his brothers - but I doubt if he has any respect for the constitution.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:10 PM
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15. Actually this is the right thing for him to do
And for his sending in the troopers he did have some legal foundation for doing that for a short period of time.

However, I find it real annoying that these people were ready to turn things upside down until they saw the polls were going against them. To me, that is unconscionable.
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:19 PM
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21. Wow, bravo for a Governor to actually "respecting the Constitution"
Have our standards really fallen so low?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:28 PM
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26. with today's mess of a country we live in
I'll take what I can get and give kudos where I think I should.
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JAHBULON Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:38 PM
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30. RESPECT
You must face the truth. What do you RESPECT?
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Bark Bark Bark Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:35 PM
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29. Der Reight-Wing Pundits...
...went nuts over the Schiavo issue; now that it's proven to NOT be the bonanza they expected, they're going nuts to free themselves of its taint.

I'm using local shithead Debra Saunders (SF Chronicle) as a barometer; the day after her editorial about Schiavo--with its deliberate omission of details that didn't fit her politics and the requisite coy suggestion about Michael Schiavo's motives--was followed the next day by a nice screed serving up Tom DeLay as a traitor to the Republican Race. (A few pages away, there was a nice fat article listing and debunking all the "misconceptions" about the case--many of which, of course, were in Saunder's earlier crapfest. Oh, had the two articles run side-by-side...)

My point is, DeLay is likely to be the official sacrifice to make this "go away." Jeb doesn't want to join him in the toilet. That's the ONLY reason this inbred piece of horseturd is "doing the right thing."

No matter. It's too late. The handle has been pulled; the water is spinning and dragging him down. He's flushed. May the rest of the shits join him.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:59 PM
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32. Some, but right now he can't find another way to get around it.
Not without alienating even more people.

It's not yet right for martial law.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:20 PM
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33. I doubt it was respect ...

... at least for the Constitution.

This all blew up in Jeb's face, and I am certain he is quite aware that to continue down the path upon which he originally embarked would have utterly destroyed his political career. He was hoping the battle would provide him with political clout, but it went the other way.

Even attempting the recuse by force shows quite well what he thinks of the law. He either didn't expect the local police to stand like they did or was merely using the maneuver to try to show he did something.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:22 PM
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34. all I was saying
is regardless of the motivation he did the right thing.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:34 PM
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35. Well, yeah ...

As they say, even a broken clock is right twice per day.

I see no need to give Jeb any credit for this. It was almost certainly politically (power) motivated, not a decision made through adherence to principles.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:04 PM
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4. He didn't before but found crackpot medical evidence to try
But well, we shall see if they you know, care. I do believe someone mentioned that it's generally difficult once you've worked up the mob without providing a sacrificial lamb.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:05 PM
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5. It took him THIS LONG to figure that out ??
Oh wait, it took him that long to read and analyze the polls.

:puke:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:05 PM
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6. hey dumb ass-------
you never could-------
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:06 PM
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8. Yeah, that's what annoys me. No one could have. Not possible.
But it seems that in politics, necessity is the mother of invention. Crackpot "Christian" medicine was required and was duly delivered.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:06 PM
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7. Translation:
The law is against me. I would violate the law, but public opinion polls show that three out of four Americans would pillory my presidential hopes if I did.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:08 PM
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12. Big Brother
Silence. Now even so much as an Easter prayer for Teri Schiavo. Maybe he doesn't look at polls, but you can be sure KARL ROVE does.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:07 PM
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10. He sent his state goons, what more do they want?
It's just biz, nothing personal.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:08 PM
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11. Good...
now he can go back to the trough to feed.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:08 PM
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13. I'm hearing, " I need expanded powers. "
"It's the Constitution that needs changing - both state and federal"
"Judges have too much power"
"Don't blame me, blame the judges"
"Don't blame me, blame the law"

This was a ready made excuse he always intended to use once he played out his grandstanding...
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:13 PM
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17. Hi Solly!
Yes, that is what I am hearing too but thank goodness people seem to be smarter than that. They are going to have to be a little less obvious next time. Lets just hope everyone is on their toes and picks up on it.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:15 PM
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19. Hi Muse!!!
Yes, they have stumbled on this one and "misunderestimated" the people's reaction.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:14 PM
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18. I think you are on to something there
I am more inclinded now to think this whole thing has more to do with Bush's judicial nominations than anything else. They just needed a good example to show how out of control the courts are. Terri provided that for them.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:18 PM
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20. Axiom: "Where there's a Bush, there's an ulterior motive"
and it's never a good one...
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:12 PM
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16. See? Just like Palpatine did it.
Create your own war/controversy/etc. then use it as leverage to get yourself more powers.

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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:28 PM
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22. That's just what they did
There was no intention to save her, this is only the opening for the battle cry to change the judiciary (so this can't happen again). This just is to mobilize their base. Hopefully this helps us more than them but they are good at making lemonaide out of lemons. This wasn't supposed to be objected to by 82% of the country. I'd like to think that the Dems in letting the bill pass in Congress last week gave them the rope to hang themselves but the Dems don't have a good record thus far in maneuveurs to oppose them.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:40 PM
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23. Since when do any of the bushes care about the CONSTITUTION, U.S., OR
FLORIDA'S.? That has never stopped them before. So, what gives? Something is up with JEB and he ain't telling.
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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:51 PM
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31. I agree, and this is what upsets me about
the general disrespect shown for lawyers. In my opinion we need more lawyers (the ethical kind) in government. Every lawyer I know doesn't just respect the Constitution. They worship it.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:47 PM
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24. Well, Jebbie, I guess that's what you get
for stickin' your nose in where it doesn't belong.

It's so funny--the GOP is fragging itself over Terri Schiavo, and the Democrats haven't even had to lift a finger.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:52 PM
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25. translation - she's more politically valuble as a martyr.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:31 PM
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27. bingo
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:35 PM
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28. "I can't help Terri Schiavo"
"or anyone else in the state of Florida cause I'm a crooked piece of garbage who will do anything to grease the hands of my contributors even if I have to step over the rotting corpse of your grandma to do it."
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