Why are the Bush Brothers and the Republicans letting Mrs. Schiavo die?

[NNN0LHI]

If they really felt it was murder to let her die last Sunday wouldn't it still be murder this Sunday? What has changed? Seriously. I don't get it? Any theory's on this? Did their own courts stacked with Republican judges stick it to them on purpose? Whats going on here?

Don

[napi21]

1. No. The courts ruled according to the law.

The fundies don't like the results, so they're pitching fits! I'm hoping that the majority of our country finally understand recognize how far out these people really are.

[Hatalles]

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[rzemanfl]

2. It's the separation of powers in action. Once the civics lesson

sank in they ran for cover.

[hippiechick]

4. Once someone stood up to them, you mean ...

... rather than bending to the bullying of the BFEE, and they saw that the poll numbers weren't on their side, then the weenie brothers turned tail and ran.

[rzemanfl]

27. Well it sort of goes withhout saying that if the Federal Judge

had taken their STRONG HINT-like they expected him or her to do-the whole thing would have come out differently. I am surprised that they didn't hack into the computer that assigns judges in Tampa. If the federal judge had ordered the tube back in the wheels would have come off this story.

[katinmn]

3. approval ratings dropped -- A LOT

[Just Me]

5. 'Cause the Bushes manipulated them for political gain.

Period. Once the Bushes' political fire was being smothered by their "base", naturally, they dropped the subject like a rock.

There are some who vulnerable to manipulation all of the time, others who are vulnerable sometimes, and those who are skeptical enough to be realistic.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. Yes, and the best part is that these people have even figured it

out. I heard one of them say, "there will be hell to pay to those who used the christian right for politcal gain, to not fight to the end now."

Actually, I think I would have more respect for those who fight it out -- at least they have a moral compass.

[Just Me]

18. Randall made that statement,....

,...and his "moral compass",...is akin to any religiofascist.

However, if he and his "circle" hold the political opportunists responsible,...I certainly have no complaint in that, at all.

Wonder if we could ever get folks like Randall to read books like, "Confessions of an Economic Hitman". Wonder how they would react, being the so-called "culture of life" folks to the way our corporatocracy has deceived and stolen from other folks.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Yea! Who's the Flip Flopper Now ?? AND on a matter of

life and death, to boot. Guess their polling manager was on vacation, huh. I really wonder what the vote would have been if that poll had come out sooner -- our side and the other. Personally I think a non-vote would have been the right vote.

[Hatalles]

7. Because the Schiavo story turned around and bit 'em in the ass.

The poll numbers along with the hypocritical stories about then Gov. Bush and DeLay, among other factors, were something BushCo didn't expect. And now, a section of the fundie group is PO'd at Bush too.

[Canuckistanian]

8. They're murderers!

They should all charged with murder! Can't they see? Terry only had the flu and they put her in a hospital and then killed her!

She can really talk and everything, they don't want you to know the truth!

:crazy:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. If the whole thing wasn't so pitiful, I'd give you a LOL. n/t

[skylarmae]

10. Well, its not so they can tout their activist judges bullshit,

so they can rig the Judiciary, that's for sure...

[Just Me]

19. Well,...that would be wishful thinking since mostly Republican judges,...

,...have decided the cases.

I don't doubt the corporate repukes seek to stack the courts with corporate judges who will toe-the-line to maintain their appointments.

I am seeing more of an expansion of corporatocracy, though, than anything resembling what the fundamentalists were envisioning.

[Auntie Bush]

11. They looked at the pole numbers (even though they don't normally

do that) and said, "Nah! No way! I'm outa here! The hell with this! Gotta Election to win in 06!"

[Inland]

13. Not worth the heat. It has nothing to do with law.

The Bushes are saying that the law and the courts tie their hands, but the fundies know (and have supported) W telling courts, the UN, and everybody else that the law can go suck eggs in the past.

W. put Jose Padilla in jail forever, incommunicado, without counsel, merely by signign a piece of paper. the DOJ found W had power to order torture contrary to American statutes and int'l treaty. W. ignores FOI requests and claims teh right to keep anything it wants secret.

So the only reason why W and Jeb are suddenly pretending to respect court rulings is about 80% of the population want them to. Fundies know that. They know neither W nor Jeb have any principles that get in the way of the extreme rhetoric they used in the past.

Fundies are feeling had, and they should.

[FourStarDemocrat]

14. CNN reports that Randall Terry is on his way to WashDC right now...

To wrangle up Congress and force them to do something, anything--now. Of course it's just a big publicity stunt and DC is empty, but I think it wouldn't hurt if he makes a nice loud ruckus in front of the Whitehouse on his way to Capital Hill.

[Just Me]

21. I doubt his stink will get extensive coverage,...unfortunately. n/t

[Proud2BAmurkin]

15. Very simple. They don't GIVE A SHIT and their "base" is dumb

.

[Just Me]

22. And "ignorant" (they really haven't a clue about the profitteers). n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

16. Two reasons

1. The courts have ruled against them. Now, anybody who knows anything about the Bush brothers knows that a little thing like the law isn't enough to stop them, but . . .
2. Public opinion is running about 3-1 against them on this. The demagogues appealed to the mob and the mob, it turned out, was just a small crowd.

[NNN0LHI]

33. But did they "think" that the courts would rule differently?

That is what I am wondering. I wonder if they got the word that the Republican stacked courts would go along with them on this and then those same courts pulled the rug out from under them. That is what I am curious about here. Any ideas on that? I can't believe they would have tried pulling this stunt without any idea what was going to happen in the end. Do you see what I am trying to say here?

Don

[spanone]

17. Yea, the Polls told them to shut the f*ck up.

[ultraist]

23. I agree. 82+% of ALL Americans feel they have no right interferring

All of the polls show that the large majority of Americans feel this should be a private family decision and that the gov has no right interferring. Both the Bush brothers lost some ground on this one. Rove made a bad call having them stick their neck out in the first place.

[Just Me]

25. Yep. The Bush Web always expels that which isn't politically,...

,...profitable. That whole system is built upon strategy for political expansion. "Values" are merely a tool, a button, a weakness that can be exploited in their game of gaining power and profit.

Yep. They are greedy, heartless, lyin' despots.

Yep.

[ultraist]

29. So true! I love the fact this one backfired on them. LOL! n/t

[VOX]

20. "Murdering judges," imperial judgeships," "out-of-control judiciary,"

and the good old standby, "liberal activist judges."

The right wing will be running the ball in this direction -- it will be **all** about the judges.

But first, it'll be death to the filibuster -- the last thing that stands between The Chimp and all his right-wing, lifetime picks for the bench.

Bet the farm on it.

[Ann Arbor Dem]

24. Bingo!

:nuke:

[Just Me]

26. But *LOL* the majority of judges were conservative Republicans *LOL*.

That's what makes this whole situation simply delicious.

:bounce:

Those political opportunists backed themselves into a corner,...and, this time, those f*ckers cannot spin their way out,...they can't do it.

However, what concerns me is that, being the human predators that they are,...they may do as any predator would,...

[sallyseven]

31. There is a difference between being a republican

and a nut case Fundy. Also a neocon. Republicans can be decent but not many of them left in congress. Even they are scared.

[bush_is_wacko]

28. Actually if you read the most recent polls you would see that

THIS issue is a non-partisan one. Democrat, Republican, Christan, Non-Cristina, married, single, straight, gay...NONE of it matters. Most of us agree that Terri's husband had the right 15 years ago and he STILL has that right. In fact if I may try to relay my own feelings, many of us who have faced this decision don't consider it so much a right as it is a DUTY to help your loved one die with dignity! Anyone currently protesting this situation is in an EXTREME minority! CBS has a great synopsis of this. I'll try and locate the DU thread where I just read it and post it for you.

FYI for those who chose to protest, the rhetoric didn't work this time. You have interfered with a private event for 80 OTHER patients at that hospital. I hope law enforcement has been taking names and license numbers and I hope EVERY member of EVERY resident in that Hospice sues each and EVERY one of you for the pain and suffering you have caused them. I think a judge will probably see it that way too!

On edit: Better yet, here's the link to the poll itself. That way you don't need to bother another DU thread!

This is meant for the disruptor here NOT the original poster. Sorry, I somehow lost track of that person in all this mess!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/23/opinion/polls...

[mconvente]

30. talk about activist judges now...

Fundies always bitch about "liberal" activist judges, but when the courts rule in the proper manner of the law (even the conservative 11th federal appeals court), they bitch. What a bunch of crybaby whores - this REALLY has bit them in the ass and we gotta get that message out. The people here have said it right - maybe the whole damn country (or most of it) sees how crazy these people really are - getting their KIDS arrested for protesting. Too bad it was fucking 5 months too late, but 2006 here we come Dems!

[bush_is_wacko]

32. I'm a little riled myself! The momentum is certainly there. Now that we

some of their attention it is time to help them see that WE were NEVER the REAL enemy! We only have a short time before the wicked witch of the Rove collects himself and fires up the rhetoric intoxication machine!