I am publicly admitting, I was wrong about the Terri Shiavo case

[Walt Starr]

I was completely convinced that Tom DeLay in collusion with Bill Frist conjured up the attempt at interjecting Congressional Action into the matter without consulting Karl Rove. I am now convinced I was wrong in that assessment.

It is now my considered opinion after watching this fiasco of a perpetual adjudicative state play out, that Rove severely miscalculated. It has his fingerprints all over it and it backfired in a way he never imagined.

This could be the end for a lot of players in the Republican Neo-Con Goon Squad, since their leader (i.e. Rove) has shown himself to be completely disconnected from common American decency.

[Tesibria]

1. from your lips to ... someone's (given the pagan note) ears ..!!! nt

[KitchenWitch]

7. the gods' and goddesses ears

[lancdem]

2. Yes, I don't think they'd do anything

without consulting Herr Rove.

[Maestro]

3. I hope you are correct!

To see Rove, DeLay and Frist go down would be awesome!!!!!!!!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

6. That's the stuff sweet, sweet dreams are made of. n/t

:)

[ima_sinnic]

do you mean it is "now" your considered opinion?

just pointin' out a critical typo.
other than that--you are undoubtedly on to something. and I do hope you're right about it being "the end" for any number of the slimeballs.

on edit: oops, you caught the typo without me!

[Catherine Vincent]

4. This remind me of the Elian fiasco.

The majority of the Americans wanted Elian back with his father. And now the ordeal with Ms. Schiavo, the majority of Americans want the politicans to mind their own damn business. As President Clinton would always say..."The American people always gets it right".

[jazzjunkysue]

5. completely disconnected from common American decency

A.K.A. Neo-Con

[NNN0LHI]

8. No Republican farts without Roves permission

Don't take no rocket scientist to figure that out...along time ago.

Don

[eleny]

9. I figured DeLay approached Rove with the idea

DeLay is in such hot water that's rising daily. He may have sold it to Rove. If that's the case and it turns out to be a fiasco beyond repair DeLay will be thrown to the wolves pretty quick. If they can slide on teflon out of this one, I throw up my hands. No way to tell who concocted it at that point. But I give DeLay the dubious credit on this one. I think he pays one way or the other. Rove would hate to have to smooth this one. I think it depends on how they manipulate the fundies to be calm when Mrs. S dies. Whew.

[Cooley Hurd]

10. This is Rove-stinky, definitely...

I think he looked at it as an easy way to stroke their base, as well as giving Jebber a starring role in their little passion play. Little did they know the passion would get w-a-y out of hand:

[spanone]

11. It is an outrageous miscalculation. Bush* flew cross country for this show

Bush* thought he was gonna get some points from his 'base'. Turns out his base is smarter than he or rove.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

12. I became convinced of Rove's involvement watching how Jeb handled things

Jeb is not a fundie and I don't believe he would have put his neck on the block over Schiavo had he not been directed by the White House to help maintain the fundie base on which Rove puts so much reliance. Jeb tried to comply, overstepped his authority and got renounced as a Pontius Pilate. I don't believe he'd have put himself in line for so much grief without pressure from someone higher than Delay or Frist.

[OneBlueSky]

13. that's what he gets for listening to Peggy Noonan . . . n/t

.

[anarchy1999]

14. Walt, that is just too much to wish for. I hope you are right, but how

long has this been going on? (jeez, sounds like a song to me)

We've all lost our perspective in all issues, which is right where "they" want us to be. Hang in there. We still hold out hope. How many people do you know that know anything about our "history"?

I rest my case, paraphased, "those that don't know their history are damned to repeat it." We are repeating our history, welcome to early Germany. The truly great depression is closing in.

[BuyingThyme]

15. Rove is not a neocon leader.

Neocons don't get involved in issues like this. (That's what makes them neocons.)

[cire4]

16. You are absolutely correct. KKKarl and Delay screwed up big time

Now they are in a no-win situation. If they intervene, they look like nutcases in the eyes of 82% of America. If they don't intervene, then they face the wrath of their beloved fundy-base.

[Skittles]

17. using a severely brain-damaged woman as a political tool

it doesn't get much lower than that

[H2O Man]

18. Well said.

I'm fine on an open and frank discussion of the issues involved in these type of cases. Again, an extended family will likely have a wide range os views. But to exploit that family's suffering, and especially to use that poor woman as a political tool, is very low.