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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:22 PM
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Should elimination of private property be the ultimate goal of revolution?
Or should I post another Falwell thread?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:23 PM
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1. elimination of private property
no
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:24 PM
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2. falwell
i haven`t read one yet...
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:27 PM
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3. No
Not the total elimination, but a cap somewhere, as long as there are hungry, homeless, out of work, out of hope americans, nobody should have so much as to cause the despair the unequal distribution of wealth brings.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:30 PM
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4. "All your private property is target for your enemy,"
"And your enemy--is WE..."

Volunteers of America, Grace Slick/Paul Kantner
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:31 PM
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5. No. I just redid my kitchen, finally, and it's MINE.
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aeolian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:36 PM
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6. No.
Private property creates a separation between people and the state.

Imagine emminent domain extended to every inch of land and every object: If the Gov't wants to move you, they move you, 'cause you don't own that land. Goodbye house, goodbye car, goodbye various knick-knacks that you think you own, 'cause they're the government's now.
Let's aim for a small government, shall we?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:38 PM
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7. Elimination of Falwell
A worthy goal.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:41 PM
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8. Should elimination of Jerry Falwell be the ultimate goal of revolution?
Or should I finish eating this chocolate Easter bunny sitting on my desk?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/bunnyjohn/chocobunny.bmp



I took his head off at lunchtime, poor bastard.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:55 PM
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10. Now that you've decapitated it, I see no reason to let it waste away.
(You did check if it WANTED to be eaten rather than kept in a persistent decapitated state, right?)
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:01 PM
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12. Oh, I've got the signed Living Will right here on my desk.
No need for a candlelight vigil or anything. But I think I'll save the rest of him for tomorrow.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:45 PM
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9. I'd argue that the destruction of the corporation should be the,...
,...ultimate goal of our revolution.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:57 PM
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11. Make that "elimination of limitless aggregation of private property",
then i'm with you.

The problem isn't in (private) wealth as such, the problem is in the disproportionate distribution thereof.

It's like the government: there's a lot that's wrong with it, but doing away with government all together isn't necessary, it just needs to be fixed.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:16 PM
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16. What about private ownership of natural resources
Like fossil fuels, water, etc.?


That's probably my biggest beef with private property.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 04:08 PM
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26. In my view those are "commons",
like the air, the water, the land. "Not for sale" on those things should be in the Constitution.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:05 PM
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13. What revolution?
There's a revolution?

WHY WASN'T I INFORMED OF THIS?

You go now!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:21 PM
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22. It's the Falwell Revolution.
:hide:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:10 PM
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14. No
Private property is essential to freedom. You might not be totally free with property rights but without property rights, you're definitely not free.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:14 PM
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15. The end of Coporate Personhood should be the ultimate goal
That's my two cents anyway.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:18 PM
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18. therein lies the imbalance
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:17 PM
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17. You can have MY property
after you pry my gun from my cold dead hand!
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queeg Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:18 PM
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19. WTF----get a rope we got a commie
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:20 PM
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20. Yeah, sure, why not? It worked so well in Russia
and all the other communist countries, didn't it?

Redstone
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:20 PM
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21. No just fair taxation: Rich should pay thier fair share.
If you make 10 million and you net 2 million after taxes you still are still 1000x better off the the average person, and you are still rich.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:21 PM
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23. It's certainly a way to get your name on some lists!
I mean "some more lists."

:toast:

(Did you mean Foulwell?)
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:59 PM
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25. Just trying to elevate the discourse in GD a skoash
Doesn't look like I succeeded. ;)

:toast: (I'll drink to that, Skipper!)
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 03:44 PM
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24. Does the definition of Private Property include
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 03:44 PM by SimpleTrend
my own body and what's within it?
What's within my cells, such as DNA?
What chemicals are in my blood?

Corporations have exploited these very private personal things for their own gain, while government has enabled them: I claim they've done so at my 'expense.'

Vast databases have been created, and except for a news report once in awhile of their security being compromised from time to time, the contents of these private databases I can only imagine. Is it unlimited? I read that this data is sometimes sold, but where's my portion of the income from that sale?

Where and what exactly is 'private property?'

Do I own my own body? Where in the law does it say this explicitly?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 04:35 PM
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27. The ultimate goal of revolution should be exclusive democratic control
of a government by the people. Kind of like the US tried before corporations took over the government.

Eliminate private property?

Yuh. Uh-huh. Sure, that'll work. It could happen.

Just look at the unbridled success of the Soviet Union. I mean, er, the former Soviet Union.
:sarcasm:

Rather than eliminate private property, it is far better, IMO, to prevent those who amass large amounts of private property from using their property to gain control of a government.
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